Morphological character data were analyzed using both standard
parsimony and Bayesian techniques. In addition, we conducted a series
of Bayesian analyses constrained to evaluate the hypothesis that Australopithecus africanus and A. sediba are sister taxa.
Based on the
results of the parsimony and Bayesian analyses, we could not reject
the hypothesis that A. sediba shares its closest phylogenetic
affinities with the genus Homo.
Therefore, based on currently
available craniodental evidence, we conclude that A. sediba is
plausibly the terminal end of a lineage that shared a common ancestor
with the earliest representatives of Homo.
And apiths still not the ancestors of African apes.
And apiths still not the ancestors of African apes.
Yes, probably not the direct ancestors, but close relatives:
-E.Afr.apiths of Gorilla,
-S.Afr.apiths of Pan:
Only incredible idiots believe they descend from Lucy.
And all these apiths lived in swamp forests:
-Garusi-Laetoli L.H. A.anamensis or afarensis: Teeth & mandible fragments, the hardest
skeletal parts which are frequently left over by carnivores (Morden 1988), come from
wind-blown & air-fall tuffs. Leakey cs 1976
Mongle et al. (2023) again recover a clade (Paranthropus) of S.Afr.
and E.Afr. robust apiths that is closer to Homo than to African apes.
Other apiths (e.g. anamensis, afarensis) are successive stem taxa
closer to Homo than to African apes.
Thus, your hypothesis is thoroughly demolished.
And apiths still not the ancestors of African apes.
Yes, probably not the direct ancestors, but close relatives:
Agreed, just like Homo is a close relative of African apes, but closer
to Pan than to Gorilla.
-E.Afr.apiths of Gorilla,
-S.Afr.apiths of Pan:
Mongle et al. (2023) again recover a clade (Paranthropus) of S.Afr.
and E.Afr. robust apiths that is closer to Homo than to African apes.
Other apiths (e.g. anamensis, afarensis) are successive stem taxa
closer to Homo than to African apes.
Thus, your hypothesis is thoroughly demolished.
Then what did we descend from?
I descend from early-Pleist.Homo at the Ind.Ocean, but you???
Sure, we all descend from Pleistocene Homo, but what is the Pliocene
ancestor of Homo?
And apiths still not the ancestors of African apes.
Yes, probably not the direct ancestors, but close relatives:
Agreed, just like Homo is a close relative of African apes, but closer
to Pan than to Gorilla.
-E.Afr.apiths of Gorilla,
-S.Afr.apiths of Pan:
Mongle et al. (2023) again recover a clade (Paranthropus) of S.Afr.
and E.Afr. robust apiths that is closer to Homo than to African apes.
Other apiths (e.g. anamensis, afarensis) are successive stem taxa
closer to Homo than to African apes.
No, my little boy: boisei // robustus.
Never heard of parallel evolution??
Thus, your hypothesis is thoroughly demolished.
:-D
Not at all, my little boy, can't your even *read*??
1) Don't you understand the word "plausibly"??
2) "necessitate a re-evaluation of this hypothesis"??
3) Homo is indeed closer to Pan than to Gorilla, didn't you even know this???
Then what did we descend from?
I descend from early-Pleist.Homo at the Ind.Ocean, but you???
Our little boy doesn't even understand "Ind.Ocean"...
Sigh.
I descend from early-Pleist.Homo at the Ind.Ocean, but you???
Kudu runner:
Sure, we all descend from Pleistocene Homo, but what is the Pliocene
ancestor of Homo?
Our little boy doesn't even understand "Ind.Ocean"...
Sigh.
Our little boy doesn't even understand "Ind.Ocean"...
Sigh.
IOW, you've got nothing, not a single tooth, nothing but paleofantasy
about Pliocene hominins running after kudus in Africa.
An updated analysis of hominin phylogeny with an emphasis on
re-evaluating the phylogenetic relationships of Australopithecus
sediba. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0047248422001713
I've got more than a tooth from Pliocene Homo in Africa: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/216209873
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jhevol.2004.09.004
and I've got lots of Pliocene fossils of African taxa closer related
to Homo than to Pan:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jhevol.2022.103311
Pandora wrote:
I've got more than a tooth from Pliocene Homo in Africa:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/216209873
The location is consistent with an Asian origins, the age, if
accurate, makes it a contemporary of finds in China.
But you're arguing in favor of Out of Africa purity by regurgitating Out
of Africa purity. You do this a lot, despite your errors being pointed
out to you.
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jhevol.2004.09.004
Same perfect spot for an Out of Asia migration.
and I've got lots of Pliocene fossils of African taxa closer related
to Homo than to Pan:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jhevol.2022.103311
You've cited this before. It has zero significance.
3) Paranthopus is the best supported clade,
kudu runner:
An updated analysis of hominin phylogeny with an emphasis on
re-evaluating the phylogenetic relationships of Australopithecus
sediba.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0047248422001713
Yes, my boy, the authors even admit that "the discovery of new Au.sediba fossils
+ adult cranial morphology, or the inclusion of postcranial characters, may ultimately
necessitate a re-evaluation of this hypothesis".
Au.sediba was of course a closer relative of us than of E.Afr.apiths, but only >incredible imbeciles believe sediba was a closer relatives of them than of S.Afr.apiths.
I only read this last ridiculous sentence:
it's as stupid as believing that humans had knuckle-walking ancestors because chimps & gorillas knuckle-walk!
3) Paranthopus is the best supported clade,
:-DDD
Incredible imbeciles!
The idiots haven't even heard of (parallel & other) evolution!!
Only self-declared "PAs" believe boisei & robustus belong to the same fossil subgenus Paranthropus.
A child can see:
-late-Miocene "gracile" afarensis evolved into "robust" boisei,
in parallel & at about the same geol.time when
-late-Miocene "gracile" africanus evolved into "robust" robustus.
..., gorilla chimps KWing *resemble* each other, but evolved in //.
Grow up, little little boy!
Begin with google "human evolution Verhaegen". :-D
..., gorilla chimps KWing *resemble* each other, but evolved in //.
That's compatible with the phylogenetic study of Mongle et al.
...
..., gorilla chimps KWing *resemble* each other, but evolved in //.
kudu runner:
That's compatible with the phylogenetic study of Mongle et al.
Yes, I was the 1st who said that Pan & Gorilla KWing evolved in //.
At first, the self-declared "scientists" laughed - not any more... after 15 perhaps 20 yrs!!
Paleo-anthropology is more retarded than geology was before plate tectonics.
Only incredible imbeciles talk about "hominins":
with this word, they *assume* that apiths are closer relatives of us than of Afr.apes.
And of course, S.Afr.apiths are indeed closer relatives of us than of gorillas... (though not of Pan).
But that's already too difficult for a prejudiced fanatic like you. :-D
Yes, I was the 1st who said that Pan & Gorilla KWing evolved in //.
At first, the self-declared "scientists" laughed - not any more... after 15 perhaps 20 yrs!!
When exactly did you first suggest that knuckle-walking evolved in parallel?
Paleo-anthropology is more retarded than geology was before plate tectonics. >Only incredible imbeciles talk about "hominins":
with this word, they *assume* that apiths are closer relatives of us than of Afr.apes.
They don't assume, they demonstrate with reproducible data and
methods. That's called science.
And of course, S.Afr.apiths are indeed closer relatives of us than of gorillas... (though not of Pan).
According to Mongle et al. (2023) S.Afr.apiths are closer related to
Homo than to Pan or Gorilla.
But that's already too difficult for a prejudiced fanatic like you. :-D
You should address Mongle, Strait, and Grine, and tell them where they
went wrong with their data and methods. But so far you've only been
throwing a temper tantrum because you just don't like what they say.
Yes, I was the 1st who said that Pan & Gorilla KWing evolved in //.
At first, the self-declared "scientists" laughed - not any more... after 15 perhaps 20 yrs!!
Kudu runner:
When exactly did you first suggest that knuckle-walking evolved in parallel?
At least already in 1997, not 15 but 26 yrs ago, e.g. my book p.163: >"Gorilla's en chimpansees evolueerden dan opmerkelijk parallel - in knokkelgang,
armverlenging, darmbeenverlenging enzovoort - maar zijn daarin helemaal geen >uitzondering: zie de diverse soorten 'mollen' onder grond en 'springmuizen' in de woestijn."
I was smarter than I thought... :-D
Paleo-anthropology is more retarded than geology was before plate tectonics.
Only incredible imbeciles talk about "hominins":
with this word, they *assume* that apiths are closer relatives of us than of Afr.apes.
They don't assume, they demonstrate with reproducible data and
methods. That's called science.
:-DDD
That's wishful thinking.
Self-declared "scientists" that produce fantasies...
And of course, S.Afr.apiths are indeed closer relatives of us than of gorillas... (though not of Pan).
According to Mongle et al. (2023) S.Afr.apiths are closer related to
Homo than to Pan or Gorilla.
Mongle cs are wrong.
Which implies that you deliberately close your eyes for data and
arguments that counter your view.
Except that these African finds predate Asia.
and I've got lots of Pliocene fossils of African taxa closer related
to Homo than to Pan:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jhevol.2022.103311
You've cited this before. It has zero significance.
Anyone who thinks this study has no significance
Rigid, sclerotic old guy wrote:
Yes, I was the 1st who said that Pan & Gorilla KWing evolved in //.
At first, the self-declared "scientists" laughed - not any more... after 15 perhaps 20 yrs!!
When exactly did you first suggest that knuckle-walking evolved in parallel?
At least already in 1997, not 15 but 26 yrs ago, e.g. my book p.163: >"Gorilla's en chimpansees evolueerden dan opmerkelijk parallel - in knokkelgang,
armverlenging, darmbeenverlenging enzovoort - maar zijn daarin helemaal geen >uitzondering: zie de diverse soorten 'mollen' onder grond en 'springmuizen' in de woestijn."
I was smarter than I thought... :-D
In 1999 JHE published a paper by Dainton and Macho in which they
suggested that knuck-walking evolved twice: https://doi.org/10.1006/jhev.1998.0265
That paper was submitted 21 May 1997.
Those authors probably hadn't read your book.
Kudu runner:
Rigid, sclerotic old guy wrote:
Yes, I was the 1st who said that Pan & Gorilla KWing evolved in //.
At first, the self-declared "scientists" laughed - not any more... after 15 perhaps 20 yrs!!
When exactly did you first suggest that knuckle-walking evolved in parallel?
At least already in 1997, not 15 but 26 yrs ago, e.g. my book p.163:
"Gorilla's en chimpansees evolueerden dan opmerkelijk parallel - in knokkelgang,
armverlenging, darmbeenverlenging enzovoort - maar zijn daarin helemaal geen
uitzondering: zie de diverse soorten 'mollen' onder grond en 'springmuizen' in de woestijn."
I was smarter than I thought... :-D
In 1999 JHE published a paper by Dainton and Macho in which they
suggested that knuck-walking evolved twice:
https://doi.org/10.1006/jhev.1998.0265
That paper was submitted 21 May 1997.
Those authors probably hadn't read your book.
:-DDD
Kudu runner:
Rigid, sclerotic old guy wrote:
Yes, I was the 1st who said that Pan & Gorilla KWing evolved in //.
At first, the self-declared "scientists" laughed - not any more... after 15 perhaps 20 yrs!!
When exactly did you first suggest that knuckle-walking evolved in parallel?
At least already in 1997, not 15 but 26 yrs ago, e.g. my book p.163:
"Gorilla's en chimpansees evolueerden dan opmerkelijk parallel - in knokkelgang,
armverlenging, darmbeenverlenging enzovoort - maar zijn daarin helemaal geen
uitzondering: zie de diverse soorten 'mollen' onder grond en 'springmuizen' in de woestijn."
I was smarter than I thought... :-D
In 1999 JHE published a paper by Dainton and Macho in which they
suggested that knuck-walking evolved twice:
https://doi.org/10.1006/jhev.1998.0265
That paper was submitted 21 May 1997.
Those authors probably hadn't read your book.
Maybe you should have published your book in English, then it wouldn't
have been destined for oblivion, just like your new book.
Op maandag 30 januari 2023 om 16:44:06 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:
Kudu runner:
Rigid, sclerotic old guy wrote:
Yes, I was the 1st who said that Pan & Gorilla KWing evolved in //. >> >> >> >At first, the self-declared "scientists" laughed - not any more... after 15 perhaps 20 yrs!!
When exactly did you first suggest that knuckle-walking evolved in parallel?
At least already in 1997, not 15 but 26 yrs ago, e.g. my book p.163:
"Gorilla's en chimpansees evolueerden dan opmerkelijk parallel - in knokkelgang,
armverlenging, darmbeenverlenging enzovoort - maar zijn daarin helemaal geen
uitzondering: zie de diverse soorten 'mollen' onder grond en 'springmuizen' in de woestijn."
I was smarter than I thought... :-D
In 1999 JHE published a paper by Dainton and Macho in which they
suggested that knuck-walking evolved twice:
https://doi.org/10.1006/jhev.1998.0265
That paper was submitted 21 May 1997.
Those authors probably hadn't read your book.
Maybe you should have published your book in English, then it wouldn't
have been destined for oblivion, just like your new book.
Yes, but my English isn't good enough...
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