From AAT:

Michel Odent's pioneering work has been mentioned by this AAT discussion group dozens of times in the past 20 years. One of his recent books, The Birth of Homo, the Marine Chimpanzee, is mentioned on Francesca's Aquatic-Human-Ancestor web site. Recently
Marc notified us that Odent has a new book. I bought Amazon's kindle version of it, and wrote the following customer review:


Planet Ocean: Our Mysterious Connections to Water, by Michel Odent
No matter what you know about humans and the sea, you will gain new understanding, insight, and inspiration from reading this book.


In the first chapter, Odent writes: "It is significant that the small groups of scientists who raised questions about the dozens of traits humans share with sea mammals, but not with other primates, have been marginalised."

Elaine Morgan, author of The Aquatic Ape, was one of those marginalized researchers. I am another. Some of the aquatic traits that Odent is referring to are: bald streamlined human bodies, protruding noses, large brains, blubbery buoyant babies that
enjoy floating and swimming in seawater, reduction of primate canine teeth and alpha-male tendencies, frontal sex, menopause, loss of estrus, … The list of human physiological and social/psychological traits that can be explained by semiaquatic
evolution goes on and on.

Here is a sample of Odent’s writing, with new insight for me, already in the first few pages:

"The significant fluctuations of sea levels during the palaeolithic ages are already studied by small groups of highly specialised experts. When these fluctuations become common knowledge, we’ll realise the narrow limits of what can be learned from
fossil hunting. If most of our ancestors were living in areas that are now underwater, we’ll probably never find their fossils. Studies of archaic humans – either Neanderthal or Sapiens – as skilled long-distance navigators cannot be dissociated
from studies of the evolution of the oceans and of the climates. Furthermore, it is probable that, in the near future, population genetics will become the most authoritative discipline to understand how our ancestors have colonised the whole planet.

In a renewed scientific context, we’ll learn to raise unusual questions."

Odent is raising unusual questions throughout this book, and encouraging us to raise more. He has always been a pioneer, and now at the age of 91, this may be his last book. (Then again, it may not — he is still traveling and lecturing at international
meetings.) In any case, this latest book teaches us, and guides us, to all sorts of new and unusual questions. I think you will enjoy reading it.

Allan Krill

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On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 4:53:08 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:

Since Svante Paabo has won the 2022 Nobel Price of Physiology and Medicine, “Planet Ocean: our mysterious connection to water”, published by Clairview Books, is becoming highly topical, even futuristic.

:D

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Since Svante Paabo has won the 2022 Nobel Price of Physiology and Medicine, “Planet Ocean: our mysterious connection to water”, published by Clairview Books, is becoming highly topical, even futuristic.

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“The Birth of Homo, the Marine Chimpanzee” 2017:
a short summarised list of such human traits:
-The huge development of the brain: mammals adapted to the sea generally have higher “encephalisation quotient” than their cousins on land.
-An enzymatic system that is not very effective at making a molecule of fatty acid (DHA) which is essential to feed the brain. This molecule is abundant and preformed in the sea-food chain.
-Iodine is the most common nutritional deficiency among humans, except those who have access to the sea-food chain.
-Nakedness & a fat-layer under the skin are traits shared with sea mammals
-The skin of human newborn babies is covered vernix caseosa ("cheesy varnish"), like the skin of newborn seals.
-Human mothers do not eat the placenta… a common point with sea-mammals.
-The sense of smell of human beings is mysteriously weak. It is the same among whales. When whales separated from hoofed mammals c 60 Ma, and migrated to water, their sense of smell nearly disappeared.
-Body temperature control through the loss of sweat is not a costly mechanism if we think of the human being as a primate adapted to environments where water & minerals are available without restriction.
-A low larynx (which gives us the ability to breathe through our nose or our mouth) is an anatomical particularity shared with sea-lions & dugongs.
-A prominent nose is a feature shared with the proboscis, a primate who lives in coastal wetlands, and is an excellent distance swimmer.
-The human vagina, like that of sea-mammals, is long & oblique, and is protected by a hymen.
-One of the most common abnormalities (or particularities) among humans is a webbing between the 2nd & 3rd toe. When a congenital abnormality is an addition, it usu. means that the feature was there for a reason during the evolutionary process.
-A narrowing of the thoracic aorta (“coarctation of the aorta”) is common among humans & seals.
-Menopause (+ prolonged life after reproduction) is a feature shared by humans, killer-whales & short-finned pilot whales.

If we add recent spectacular advances in population genetics, what we are learning about fluctuations of sea-levels, and also about archaic humans as navigators, it appears difficult to go on postponing a radically new vision of man.
Michel Odent, MD

Author of the 1st article about the use of birthing pools during labour (Lancet 1983) & of the first articles about the initiation of breast-feeding during the hour following birth (1977).

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 02:52:04 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

-Human mothers do not eat the placenta� a common point with sea-mammals.

Maybe if you serve it with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

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Pandora wrote:

Maybe if you serve it with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

And you could use a heaping helping of Humble Pie, lamb chop.




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Op donderdag 16 februari 2023 om 15:51:11 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:

-Human mothers do not eat the placenta… a common point with sea-mammals.

Maybe if you serve it with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

:-) Good boy, at least you've read it...
Yes, only incredible imbeciles believe their ancestors ran after kudus over the savannas:

“The Birth of Homo, the Marine Chimpanzee” 2017:
a short summarised list of such human traits:
-The huge development of the brain: mammals adapted to the sea generally have higher “encephalisation quotient” than their cousins on land.
-An enzymatic system that is not very effective at making a molecule of fatty acid (DHA) which is essential to feed the brain. This molecule is abundant and preformed in the sea-food chain.
-Iodine is the most common nutritional deficiency among humans, except those who have access to the sea-food chain.
-Nakedness & a fat-layer under the skin are traits shared with sea mammals. -The skin of human newborn babies is covered vernix caseosa ("cheesy varnish"), like the skin of newborn seals.
-The sense of smell of human beings is mysteriously weak. It is the same among whales. When whales separated from hoofed mammals c 60 Ma, and migrated to water, their sense of smell nearly disappeared.
-Body temperature control through the loss of sweat is not a costly mechanism if we think of the human being as a primate adapted to environments where water & minerals are available without restriction.
-A low larynx (which gives us the ability to breathe through our nose or our mouth) is an anatomical particularity shared with sea-lions & dugongs.
-A prominent nose is a feature shared with the proboscis, a primate who lives in coastal wetlands, and is an excellent distance swimmer.
-The human vagina, like that of sea-mammals, is long & oblique, and is protected by a hymen.
-One of the most common abnormalities (or particularities) among humans is a webbing between the 2nd & 3rd toe. When a congenital abnormality is an addition, it usu. means that the feature was there for a reason during the evolutionary process.
-A narrowing of the thoracic aorta (“coarctation of the aorta”) is common among humans & seals.
-Menopause (+ prolonged life after reproduction) is a feature shared by humans, killer-whales & short-finned pilot whales.

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On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 11:24:07 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

Op donderdag 16 februari 2023 om 15:51:11 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:

-Human mothers do not eat the placenta� a common point with sea-mammals.

Maybe if you serve it with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

:-) Good boy, at least you've read it...
Yes, only incredible imbeciles believe their ancestors ran after kudus over the savannas:

�The Birth of Homo, the Marine Chimpanzee� 2017:
a short summarised list of such human traits:
-The huge development of the brain: mammals adapted to the sea generally have higher �encephalisation quotient� than their cousins on land.
-An enzymatic system that is not very effective at making a molecule of fatty acid (DHA) which is essential to feed the brain. This molecule is abundant and preformed in the sea-food chain.
-Iodine is the most common nutritional deficiency among humans, except those who have access to the sea-food chain.
-Nakedness & a fat-layer under the skin are traits shared with sea mammals. >-The skin of human newborn babies is covered vernix caseosa ("cheesy varnish"), like the skin of newborn seals.
-The sense of smell of human beings is mysteriously weak. It is the same among whales. When whales separated from hoofed mammals c 60 Ma, and migrated to water, their sense of smell nearly disappeared.
-Body temperature control through the loss of sweat is not a costly mechanism if we think of the human being as a primate adapted to environments where water & minerals are available without restriction.
-A low larynx (which gives us the ability to breathe through our nose or our mouth) is an anatomical particularity shared with sea-lions & dugongs.
-A prominent nose is a feature shared with the proboscis, a primate who lives in coastal wetlands, and is an excellent distance swimmer.
-The human vagina, like that of sea-mammals, is long & oblique, and is protected by a hymen.
-One of the most common abnormalities (or particularities) among humans is a webbing between the 2nd & 3rd toe. When a congenital abnormality is an addition, it usu. means that the feature was there for a reason during the evolutionary process.
-A narrowing of the thoracic aorta (�coarctation of the aorta�) is common among humans & seals.
-Menopause (+ prolonged life after reproduction) is a feature shared by humans, killer-whales & short-finned pilot whales.

Hey, it's gone!
Somebody ate the placenta!

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Op vrijdag 17 februari 2023 om 14:59:13 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 11:24:07 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littor...@gmail.com> wrote:

Op donderdag 16 februari 2023 om 15:51:11 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:

-Human mothers do not eat the placenta… a common point with sea-mammals.

Maybe if you serve it with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

:-) Good boy, at least you've read it...
Yes, only incredible imbeciles believe their ancestors ran after kudus over the savannas:

“The Birth of Homo, the Marine Chimpanzee” 2017:
a short summarised list of such human traits:
-The huge development of the brain: mammals adapted to the sea generally have higher “encephalisation quotient” than their cousins on land.
-An enzymatic system that is not very effective at making a molecule of fatty acid (DHA) which is essential to feed the brain. This molecule is abundant and preformed in the sea-food chain.
-Iodine is the most common nutritional deficiency among humans, except those who have access to the sea-food chain.
-Nakedness & a fat-layer under the skin are traits shared with sea mammals. >-The skin of human newborn babies is covered vernix caseosa ("cheesy varnish"), like the skin of newborn seals.
-The sense of smell of human beings is mysteriously weak. It is the same among whales. When whales separated from hoofed mammals c 60 Ma, and migrated to water, their sense of smell nearly disappeared.
-Body temperature control through the loss of sweat is not a costly mechanism if we think of the human being as a primate adapted to environments where water & minerals are available without restriction.
-A low larynx (which gives us the ability to breathe through our nose or our mouth) is an anatomical particularity shared with sea-lions & dugongs.
-A prominent nose is a feature shared with the proboscis, a primate who lives in coastal wetlands, and is an excellent distance swimmer.
-The human vagina, like that of sea-mammals, is long & oblique, and is protected by a hymen.
-One of the most common abnormalities (or particularities) among humans is a webbing between the 2nd & 3rd toe. When a congenital abnormality is an addition, it usu. means that the feature was there for a reason during the evolutionary process.
-A narrowing of the thoracic aorta (“coarctation of the aorta”) is common among humans & seals.
-Menopause (+ prolonged life after reproduction) is a feature shared by humans, killer-whales & short-finned pilot whales.

Kudu runner:

Hey, it's gone!

Yes, that was already in the previous post.
Here it is again FYI:

“The Birth of Homo, the Marine Chimpanzee”
Michel Odent 2017: ... a short summarised list of such human traits:
-The huge development of the brain: mammals adapted to the sea generally have higher “encephalisation quotient” than their cousins on land.
-An enzymatic system that is not very effective at making a molecule of fatty acid (DHA) which is essential to feed the brain. This molecule is abundant and preformed in the sea-food chain.
-Iodine is the most common nutritional deficiency among humans, except those who have access to the sea-food chain.
-Nakedness & a fat-layer under the skin are traits shared with sea mammals
-The skin of human newborn babies is covered vernix caseosa ("cheesy varnish"), like the skin of newborn seals.
-Human mothers do not eat the placenta… a common point with sea-mammals.
-The sense of smell of human beings is mysteriously weak. It is the same among whales. When whales separated from hoofed mammals c 60 Ma, and migrated to water, their sense of smell nearly disappeared.
-Body temperature control through the loss of sweat is not a costly mechanism if we think of the human being as a primate adapted to environments where water & minerals are available without restriction.
-A low larynx (which gives us the ability to breathe through our nose or our mouth) is an anatomical particularity shared with sea-lions & dugongs.
-A prominent nose is a feature shared with the proboscis, a primate who lives in coastal wetlands, and is an excellent distance swimmer.
-The human vagina, like that of sea-mammals, is long & oblique, and is protected by a hymen.
-One of the most common abnormalities (or particularities) among humans is a webbing between the 2nd & 3rd toe. When a congenital abnormality is an addition, it usu. means that the feature was there for a reason during the evolutionary process.
-A narrowing of the thoracic aorta (“coarctation of the aorta”) is common among humans & seals.
-Menopause (+ prolonged life after reproduction) is a feature shared by humans, killer-whales & short-finned pilot whales.

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