She was well-trained of course, but still, what other mammalian system
is capable of doing that?
Pandora wrote:
She was well-trained of course, but still, what other mammalian system
is capable of doing that?
What percentage of humans?
Oops.
Apparently you really are just as unscientific as you let on...
"Virtually NOBODY can do this! Obviously the human body evolved to
do it!"
Her case is extreme I admit, but still, how do you get the
musculoskeletal, cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, respiratory, and
nervous system adaptations to do that?
Her case is extreme I admit, but still, how do you get the
musculoskeletal, cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, respiratory, and
nervous system adaptations to do that?
You simply do not evolve to run like that in a viscous medium like
water.
kudu runner:
Her case is extreme I admit, but still, how do you get the
musculoskeletal, cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, respiratory, and
nervous system adaptations to do that?
My little little little boy, nobody denies that humans can run a bit (half as fast as horses).
Her case is extreme I admit, but still, how do you get the
musculoskeletal, cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, respiratory, and
nervous system adaptations to do that?
My little little little boy, nobody denies that humans can run a bit (half as fast as horses).
In the long run humans sometimes win:
kudu runner:
Her case is extreme I admit, but still, how do you get the
musculoskeletal, cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, respiratory, and
nervous system adaptations to do that?
My little little little boy, nobody denies that humans can run a bit (half as fast as horses).
In the long run humans sometimes win:
Yes, sometimes...
1 in 1000.
Can a human outswim a tuna?
imbecilic Q:
Can a human outswim a tuna?
H.erectus dived for shellfish, my little boy.
"littor...@gmail.com"
H.erectus dived for shellfish, my little boy.
Why, when they could simply harvest them at low tide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yH5JbzaNrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkb-jpZCefg
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/17/australia/erchana-murray-bartlett-150-marathons-australia-intl-hnk/index.html
She was well-trained of course, but still, what other mammalian system
is capable of doing that?
kudu runner:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/17/australia/erchana-murray-bartlett-150-marathons-australia-intl-hnk/index.html
She was well-trained of course, but still, what other mammalian system
is capable of doing that?
Every savanna ungulate, bovid or equid.
kudu runner:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/17/australia/erchana-murray-bartlett-150-marathons-australia-intl-hnk/index.html
She was well-trained of course, but still, what other mammalian system
is capable of doing that?
Every savanna ungulate, bovid or equid.Not this kudu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o
But with enough cooperative manpower and spears you don't have to run
that long, and you can even take down an elephant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHOCqyGL9yQ
Multi-male group behaviour in H. erectus is suggested by footprints
from Ileret, Kenya at 1.5 Ma:
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep28766
Sigh. My ridiculous little boy, nobody doubt that there are a few kudu runners today who with spears, drinking water etc. can hunt kudus.
You miseraby fail in explaining us how that began 5 Ma (H/P split).
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 11:04:55 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sigh. My ridiculous little boy, nobody doubt that there are a few kudu runners today who with spears, drinking water etc. can hunt kudus.It didn't begin at the H/P split, unless you consider habitual
You miseraby fail in explaining us how that began 5 Ma (H/P split).
bipedalism as the first step.
The earliest evidence of the consumption of animal tissue is from site DIK-55 at around 3.4 Ma (possibly A. afarensis): https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283496176
Sigh... Incredible... Grow up, my little boy:
"Questions arise over earliest evidence of human tool use"
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:08:09 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sigh... Incredible... Grow up, my little boy:
"Questions arise over earliest evidence of human tool use"Well, in that case "The earliest best evidence for hominin butchery
thus remains at 2.6 to 2.5 Ma, presumably associated with more derived species than A. afarensis."
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1013711107
But then, that discussion was prior to the announcement in 2015 of the Lomekwian in West Turkana, Kenya at 3.3 Ma: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277004244
Grow up, my boy. You see everywhere hunting & butchery.
Are you really too stupid to realize how impossible that nonsense is??
Try to be honest to yourself. In any case, waste your own time.
Op maandag 23 januari 2023 om 22:47:50 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:08:09 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com"
<littor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sigh... Incredible... Grow up, my little boy:Well, in that case "The earliest best evidence for hominin butchery
"Questions arise over earliest evidence of human tool use"
thus remains at 2.6 to 2.5 Ma, presumably associated with more derived
species than A. afarensis."
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1013711107
But then, that discussion was prior to the announcement in 2015 of the
Lomekwian in West Turkana, Kenya at 3.3 Ma:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277004244
Besides, all pre-agricutural societies were hunter-gatherers in some
way, from Kalahari San to Australian aboriginals, from Amazonian
Yanomami to arctic Inuit. How did that happen?
Technically, living off the sea *Is* hunter-gathering.
Ocean Farming is a relatively new invention, with a nod towards ancient Roman efforts.
If we look at your chimps, the forest supports a higher population density than does a savanna. And, yes, the sea can support a higher population density than the forest! Kind of depends a little on what stretch of beach and how you're exploiting it but, TONS of protein for the taking, with
food available year-round.
It's long been incorporated into my arguments for Aquatic Ape: Precursors
of tools (shells, for example), the GOBS & GOBS of brain-building Omega-3s, OODLES of time to await that luck bigger-brain mutation... fire would have been damn useful... even "Spearing" could enjoy a lengthy developmental stage while still being of use (spear fishing)...
So, bigger gene pool, a vastly more forgiving environment, TONS of brain building DHA and more hands trying to works stuff out at the same time.
It's a great model. The good Doctor sure has done us all a favor.
imbecilic Q:
Can a human outswim a tuna?
H.erectus dived for shellfish, my little boy.
Grow up.
Pandora wrote:
Besides, all pre-agricutural societies were hunter-gatherers in someTechnically, living off the sea *Is* hunter-gathering.
way, from Kalahari San to Australian aboriginals, from Amazonian
Yanomami to arctic Inuit. How did that happen?
Ocean Farming is a relatively new invention, with a nod towards ancient
Roman efforts.
If we look at your chimps, the forest supports a higher population density than does a savanna. And, yes, the sea can support a higher population density than the forest! Kind of depends a little on what stretch of beach and how you're exploiting it but, TONS of protein for the taking, with
food available year-round.
It's long been incorporated into my arguments for Aquatic Ape: Precursors
of tools (shells, for example), the GOBS & GOBS of brain-building Omega-3s, OODLES of time to await that luck bigger-brain mutation... fire would have been damn useful... even "Spearing" could enjoy a lengthy developmental
stage while still being of use (spear fishing)...
So, bigger gene pool, a vastly more forgiving environment, TONS of brain building DHA and more hands trying to works stuff out at the same time.
It's a great model. The good Doctor sure has done us all a favor.
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
Pandora wrote:
Besides, all pre-agricutural societies were hunter-gatherers in some
way, from Kalahari San to Australian aboriginals, from Amazonian
Yanomami to arctic Inuit. How did that happen?
Technically, living off the sea *Is* hunter-gathering.
Ocean Farming is a relatively new invention, with a nod towards ancient
Roman efforts.
If we look at your chimps, the forest supports a higher population density >> than does a savanna. And, yes, the sea can support a higher population
density than the forest! Kind of depends a little on what stretch of beach >> and how you're exploiting it but, TONS of protein for the taking, with
food available year-round.
It's long been incorporated into my arguments for Aquatic Ape: Precursors
of tools (shells, for example), the GOBS & GOBS of brain-building Omega-3s, >> OODLES of time to await that luck bigger-brain mutation... fire would have >> been damn useful... even "Spearing" could enjoy a lengthy developmental
stage while still being of use (spear fishing)...
So, bigger gene pool, a vastly more forgiving environment, TONS of brain
building DHA and more hands trying to works stuff out at the same time.
It's a great model. The good Doctor sure has done us all a favor.
Once again, no answer from the child. Typical.
As such Kalahari San may run after kudu,
kudu runner is convinced he descends from San:
As such Kalahari San may run after kudu,
:-DDD
Not unlikely, San are more derived from the sapiens LCA than most Eurasians are.
As such Kalahari San may run after kudu,
:-DDD
Not unlikely, San are more derived from the sapiens LCA than most Eurasians are.
A supertree approach of modern human population history shows that
S African Khoisan occupy the most basal position, which suggests they
are less derived:
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep29890
The "good Doctor" has overdone it, in that our ancestors didn't need
to be (semi)aquatic in order to enjoy both terrestrial and aquatic
resources far from any seashore:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:05:09 -0800 (PST), JTEM is so reasonable <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
Pandora wrote:
She was well-trained of course, but still, what other mammalian system
is capable of doing that?
What percentage of humans?
Oops.
Apparently you really are just as unscientific as you let on...
"Virtually NOBODY can do this! Obviously the human body evolved to
do it!"
Her case is extreme I admit, but still, how do you get the
musculoskeletal, cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, respiratory, and
nervous system adaptations to do that?
You simply do not evolve to run like that in a viscous medium like
water.
On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:14:36 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:
kudu runner:
Her case is extreme I admit, but still, how do you get the
musculoskeletal, cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, respiratory, and
nervous system adaptations to do that?
My little little little boy, nobody denies that humans can run a bit (half as fast as horses).
In the long run humans sometimes win: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon
You don't evolve to run like that in water.
kudu runner:
Her case is extreme I admit, but still, how do you get the
musculoskeletal, cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, respiratory, and
nervous system adaptations to do that?
My little little little boy, nobody denies that humans can run a bit (half as fast as horses).
In the long run humans sometimes win:
Yes, sometimes...
1 in 1000.
Already caught your kudu, my little boy??
kudu runner is convinced he descends from San:
As such Kalahari San may run after kudu,
:-DDD
Not unlikely, San are more derived from the sapiens LCA than most Eurasians are.
A supertree approach of modern human population history shows that
S African Khoisan occupy the most basal position, which suggests they
are less derived:
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep29890
Sigh.
The usual Afro+anthropocentric prejudices.
When will these kudu runners grow up??
Google "human evolution Verhaegen".
Pandora wrote:
The "good Doctor" has overdone it, in that our ancestors didn't need
to be (semi)aquatic in order to enjoy both terrestrial and aquatic
resources far from any seashore:
Again, you are divorced from a model that explains the facts. Aquatic Ape does though.
We need Aquatic Ape because of "Coastal Dispersal." They did not stop at > Burger King along the way. They were not following maps. They were
eating. That's why they were on that coast: Aquatic Ape.
Yes, individuals, families, whole groups pushed inland at times. Of course
they did. Manta Rays pushed inland and adapted, of course groups from
the Aquatic Ape population did. A storm surge may have been enough. Or
something like Red Tide. Or conflict. Or after they exhausted a stretch of beach & moved on they reached a fertile fresh water outlet to the sea
before they found a suitable stretch of the coast, and followed it.
The glacial/interglacial cycle would have turbocharged this process...
Savanna idiocy can't even explain the savanna while Aquatic Ape is model
that explains the facts as we see them.
How does it explain that we have a cooling system, i.e., sweating,
that is for dry, not humid, conditions?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insensible_perspiration
https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/evaporative-coolers
https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/phys_agents/humidex.html
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-do-we-sweat-more-in-high-humidity/
https://phys.org/news/2021-04-chillest-ape-humans-evolved-super-high.html
There is more food inland.
No fruit grows in the ocean.
Yes, individuals, families, whole groups pushed inland at times.
At ALL times.
they did. Manta Rays pushed inland and adapted, of course groups from
Mantas stayed IN the water.
All primates are land dwellers.
How does it explain that we have a cooling system, i.e., sweating,
that is for dry, not humid, conditions?
Primum Sapienti wrote:
How does it explain that we have a cooling system, i.e., sweating,
that is for dry, not humid, conditions?
It's all idiocy. For starters Homo evolved inside of the Quaternary
Period, the ice age. This includes everything from erectus onward.
For most of our evolution the Quaternary has been characterized
by the present glacial/interglacial cycle. This is where lengthy
glacial periods -- colloquially known as "Ice Ages" -- are punctuated
by much briefer warm periods, like the Holocene we now live in.
Glacial periods: Cold and dry.
Interglacial periods: Warmer and wetter.
Now what you are arguing, quite poorly I may add, is that humans
evolved in the vastly more humid tropics & subtropical regions and
you know this because (now get this) you think our bodies are
less suited there, and that we seem "Designed" for more northernly
and color hence LESS HUMID regions...
Wow. I'm impressed. I mean, that you were unable to spot the
contradictions. Quite impressive.
Actually, one obvious solution to the dilemma which you presented
to yourself is Aquatic Ape. If our ancestors did exploit aquatic
resources, if this was a major driver of our evolution, and ocean
surface temperatures are BELOW normal body temperatures (which
they are, even along the equator), it doesn't matter how well our
innate cooling systems are, because just by hunting/gathering they
would be cooling themselves.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insensible_perspiration
Doesn't support your claim.
https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/evaporative-coolers
Doesn't pertain to humans.
https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/phys_agents/humidex.html
Seems to be a great argument for Aquatic Ape. Because, any population
living in the tropics and even subtropics would die of heat exhaustion
unless they were artificially cooling themselves with water... perhaps as
a consequence of hunter/gathering.
But only if we take you seriously.
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-do-we-sweat-more-in-high-humidity/
Which is weird, because east Africa is supposed to be more not less humid.
https://phys.org/news/2021-04-chillest-ape-humans-evolved-super-high.html
We lose salt from this sweating. Clearly your "Argument," if I may grace it with
the use of that term, is that "Aquatic Ape" must be right else would could not
have evolved a cooling system designed to expel salt unless of course we were consuming large quantities of salt... like from marine resources.
There is more food inland.
No there isn't. And there certainly wasn't. Not even close.
No fruit grows in the ocean.
We're not good at eating fruit. They are very high in carbs -- sugars -- which
fuels diabetes and rots our teeth.
...you'd have to eat four or five bananas to get the protein in a single
chicken wing!
And of course the DHA is over in the water, not growing on a tree.
Yes, individuals, families, whole groups pushed inland at times.
At ALL times.
So you agree that there was a parent "Aquatic Ape" population from
which groups splintered off from, moved inland.
Exactly.
they did. Manta Rays pushed inland and adapted, of course groups from
Mantas stayed IN the water.
You're very observant, more so than most of your ilk, but they were doing
the exact same thing your Rift Valley mutants were doing: Following a
fresh water source inland.
All primates are land dwellers.
The fact that you believe THIS is a representation of "Aquatic Ape" condemns you. It is not the source of pride you seem to believe it to be:
https://marswillsendnomore.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/scantastical001.jpg
You are dogmatic. Period. You're trying to defend your dogma against challenges, not think.
Kudu runner:
How does it explain that we have a cooling system, i.e., sweating,
that is for dry, not humid, conditions?
Never heard of *evolution*, my little little boy??
Again: it's not difficult, even you can understand:
evolution:
-Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea, bipedal wading-climbing, google "aquarboreal", -early-Pleist.Homo, shallow-diving, shellfish etc., e.g. google "human evolution verhaegen",
-H.sapiens today, walking, agriculture rice etc.
Sweat = water + salt excretion.
The cooling function is secondary.
You're becoming more+more ridiculous.
Please run after your kudu.
Yes, child, we evolved in a hot dry climate.
:=}}}}}
Again: it's not difficult, even you can understand:
evolution:
-Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea, bipedal wading-climbing, google "aquarboreal", -early-Pleist.Homo, shallow-diving, shellfish etc., e.g. google "human evolution verhaegen",
-H.sapiens today, walking, agriculture rice etc.
Sweat = water + salt excretion.
The cooling function is secondary.
This shows how ill informed you are. Sweating is for cooling. If
it was for getting rid of salt and water,
Sweating is for dry and hot climates.
Not for cold or humid.
Now what you are arguing, quite poorly I may add, is that humans
evolved in the vastly more humid tropics & subtropical regions and
you know this because (now get this) you think our bodies are
less suited there, and that we seem "Designed" for more northernly
and color hence LESS HUMID regions...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insensible_perspiration
Doesn't support your claim.
"Insensible perspiration is the main source of heat loss from
the body"
https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/evaporative-coolers
Doesn't pertain to humans.
It 100% applies to humans
https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/phys_agents/humidex.html
Seems to be a great argument for Aquatic Ape. Because, any population living in the tropics and even subtropics would die of heat exhaustion unless they were artificially cooling themselves with water... perhaps as
a consequence of hunter/gathering.
But only if we take you seriously.
Did you actually look at the link?
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-do-we-sweat-more-in-high-humidity/
Which is weird, because east Africa is supposed to be more not less humid.
Didn't follow the link I see...
https://phys.org/news/2021-04-chillest-ape-humans-evolved-super-high.html
We lose salt from this sweating. Clearly your "Argument," if I may grace it with
the use of that term, is that "Aquatic Ape" must be right else would could not
have evolved a cooling system designed to expel salt unless of course we were
consuming large quantities of salt... like from marine resources.
Meat helps replenish salt. https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/naturally-occurring-sodium-meat-10826.html
Wood and meat as complementary sources of sodium for Kanyawara
chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes)
Kudu runner:
...
Yes, child, we evolved in a hot dry climate.
:=}}}}}
Again: it's not difficult, even you can understand:
evolution:
-Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea, bipedal wading-climbing, google "aquarboreal", >>> -early-Pleist.Homo, shallow-diving, shellfish etc., e.g. google "human evolution verhaegen",
-H.sapiens today, walking, agriculture rice etc.
Sweat = water + salt excretion.
The cooling function is secondary.
Kudu runner:
This shows how ill informed you are. Sweating is for cooling. If
it was for getting rid of salt and water,
??
My little little boy, I only said that sweat contains water + salt.
Have you learnt to read??
Please keep running after your kudu.
Primum Sapienti wrote:
Sweating is for dry and hot climates.
No. Sweating is for hot bodies. Go jogging when it's cool out.
You'll "Work up a sweat."
Not for cold or humid.
You do know you're arguing AGAINST your Out of Africa purity,
as east Africa is more not less humid.
I explained it. How, taking you literally, you have to be wrong:
Now what you are arguing, quite poorly I may add, is that humans
evolved in the vastly more humid tropics & subtropical regions and
you know this because (now get this) you think our bodies are
less suited there, and that we seem "Designed" for more northernly
and color hence LESS HUMID regions...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insensible_perspiration
Doesn't support your claim.
"Insensible perspiration is the main source of heat loss from
the body"
Great. It doesn't support your claim.
https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/evaporative-coolers
Doesn't pertain to humans.
It 100% applies to humans
It's about machines, not humans.
https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/phys_agents/humidex.html
Seems to be a great argument for Aquatic Ape. Because, any population
living in the tropics and even subtropics would die of heat exhaustion
unless they were artificially cooling themselves with water... perhaps as >>> a consequence of hunter/gathering.
But only if we take you seriously.
Did you actually look at the link?
It's a great argument AGAINST you and in favor of Aquatic Ape, if we take
you seriously.
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-do-we-sweat-more-in-high-humidity/
Which is weird, because east Africa is supposed to be more not less humid.
Didn't follow the link I see...
Great. East Africa is MORE not LESS humid. So your model, if I may laughingly refer to it as such, is that humans arose exactly where they couldn't.
https://phys.org/news/2021-04-chillest-ape-humans-evolved-super-high.html >>>We lose salt from this sweating. Clearly your "Argument," if I may grace it with
the use of that term, is that "Aquatic Ape" must be right else would could not
have evolved a cooling system designed to expel salt unless of course we were
consuming large quantities of salt... like from marine resources.
Meat helps replenish salt.
https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/naturally-occurring-sodium-meat-10826.html
You'd have to eat like 8 pounds of beef, according to the FDA, to meet the recommended daily intake for a modern adult living a modern lifestyle.
Of course if you're sweating it out -- which they were both doing and NOT doing in your <ahem> "Model" -- then they'd need a lot more.
Wood and meat as complementary sources of sodium for Kanyawara
chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes)
Chimps aren't a model for a human ancestor. Chimps aren't even a model
for a Chimp ancestor.
"I sleep now."
Chimps are indeed a model for human ancestors -
Some idiotic kudu runner:
Chimps are indeed a model for human ancestors -
:-DDD
For retarded savanna believers, yes!
Already caught your kudu, my little boy?
Only imbeciles can write such nonsense
(why don't these fools inform a little bit??):
chimps have knuckle-walking, very long arms, hooked hands, upperfur, long canines etc.
Everybody knows:
the late-Miocene Homo-Pan LCA in Red Sea swamp forests was aquarboreal: bipedally wading, climbing arms overhead, probably furless, incisiform canines etc.:
- Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea, google "aquarboreal",
- Plio-Pleistocene Homo, google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".
the late-Miocene Homo-Pan LCA in Red Sea swamp forests was aquarboreal: bipedally wading, climbing arms overhead, probably furless, incisiform canines etc.:
- Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea, google "aquarboreal",
- Plio-Pleistocene Homo, google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".
Seals and dolphins are your model. Both unable to survive on land.
Now, INFANT, do your homework
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
Primum Sapienti wrote:
Sweating is for dry and hot climates.
No. Sweating is for hot bodies. Go jogging when it's cool out.
You'll "Work up a sweat."
Internal body heat. Even YOU should know that.
It's about machines, not humans.
It's the same thermodynamic principle
Chimps are indeed a model for human ancestors
Chimps are indeed a model for human ancestors
Chimps are as far removed from the LCA as we are. The LCA didn't
live in the forest, had a hand more like ours, walked upright...
kudu runner:
Her case is extreme I admit, but still, how do you get the musculoskeletal, cardiovascular, thermoregulatory, respiratory, and nervous system adaptations to do that?My little little little boy, nobody denies that humans can run a bit (half as fast as horses).
But only complete idiots deny Pleistocene H.erectus frequently dived for shellfih:
-brain size x2 (DHA etc., cf.marine mammals)
-pachyosteosclerosis = slow+shallow diving
-shell engravings, google "Joordens Munro"
-stone tools & handiness
-coastal fossilisation & dispersal
-etc.etc.etc.
the late-Miocene Homo-Pan LCA in Red Sea swamp forests was aquarboreal:
bipedally wading, climbing arms overhead, probably furless, incisiform canines etc.:
- Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea, google "aquarboreal",
- Plio-Pleistocene Homo, google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".
Some netloon:
Seals and dolphins are your model. Both unable to survive on land.
??
The late-Miocene Homo-Pan LCA in Red Sea swamp forests was aquarboreal: bipedally wading, climbing arms overhead, probably furless, incisiform canines etc.:
- Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea, google "aquarboreal",
- Plio-Pleistocene Homo, google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".
Primum Sapienti wrote:
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
Primum Sapienti wrote:
Sweating is for dry and hot climates.
No. Sweating is for hot bodies. Go jogging when it's cool out.
You'll "Work up a sweat."
Internal body heat. Even YOU should know that.
So when you said "dry and hot climates" you meant "NOT hot and
dry climates."
Okay. Nw flip back and pretend you're arguing climates again.
It's about machines, not humans.
It's the same thermodynamic principle
If you want to pretend this applies to humans then make a case, don't
just pretend that you've done so.
Let's just stop. This error you spew here is *Way* too big to move
beyond:
Chimps are indeed a model for human ancestors
Chimps are as far removed from the LCA as we are. The LCA didn't
live in the forest, had a hand more like ours, walked upright...
Primum Sapienti wrote:
Now, INFANT, do your homework
This is crazy. You're contradicting, not building a model.
Now as I pointed out, you'd need to eat about 8 pounds of meat to get
the recommended daily allowance of salt. For our modern beef, that
comes out to 9096 calories. Per day.
And of course you haven't broken down the climate for us at all. You
seem to believe that the level of humidity is important but, how
important? How many days of humid weather are we speaking of?
I mean, were they dropping dead when it got humid? How many days
could they withstand? How many days were typical? And what are the ramifications of an a-typical year?
Simply put: Your <ahem> "Argument" doesn't even work on the
savanna idiocy you're pretending to defend.
It's like the elephants which didn't fit any model you cared to describe
much less defend, or the bird brains or... anything else.
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Why is chimp and human DNA so similar?
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
Now as I pointed out, you'd need to eat about 8 pounds of meat to get
the recommended daily allowance of salt. For our modern beef, that
comes out to 9096 calories. Per day.
Claimed without evidence.
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
Primum Sapienti wrote:
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
Primum Sapienti wrote:
Sweating is for dry and hot climates.
No. Sweating is for hot bodies. Go jogging when it's cool out.
You'll "Work up a sweat."
Internal body heat. Even YOU should know that.
So when you said "dry and hot climates" you meant "NOT hot and
dry climates."
No
Primum Sapienti wrote:
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
Primum Sapienti wrote:
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
Primum Sapienti wrote:
Sweating is for dry and hot climates.
No. Sweating is for hot bodies. Go jogging when it's cool out.
You'll "Work up a sweat."
Internal body heat. Even YOU should know that.
So when you said "dry and hot climates" you meant "NOT hot and
dry climates."
No
Yes, actually, and you even just quoted yourself. Retard.
I now
kudu runner doesn't know:
Why is chimp and human DNA so similar?
Francesca Mansfield:
the Zanclean mega-flood 5.33 Ma opened the Red Sea into the Gulf = H/P split:
get an
"Sweating is for dry and hot climates."
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