• Dietary strategy of Pleistocene Homo erectus on Java

    From Pandora@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 16 19:14:38 2023
    Dietary strategies of Pleistocene Pongo sp. and Homo erectus on Java (Indonesia)

    Abstract

    During the Early to Middle Pleistocene, Java was inhabited by hominid
    taxa of great diversity. However, their seasonal dietary strategies
    have never been explored. We undertook geochemical analyses of
    orangutan (Pongo sp.), Homo erectus and other mammalian Pleistocene
    teeth from Sangiran. We reconstructed past dietary strategies at
    subweekly resolution and inferred seasonal ecological patterns.
    Histologically controlled spatially resolved elemental analyses by
    laser-based plasma mass spectrometry confirmed the preservation of
    authentic biogenic signals despite the effect of spatially restricted diagenetic overprint. The Sr/Ca record of faunal remains is in line
    with expected trophic positions, contextualizing fossil hominid diet.
    Pongo sp. displays marked seasonal cycles with ~3 month-long strongly
    elevated Sr/Ca peaks, reflecting contrasting plant food consumption
    presumably during the monsoon season, while lower Sr/Ca ratios suggest different food availability during the dry season. In contrast,
    omnivorous H. erectus shows low and less accentuated intra-annual
    Sr/Ca variability compared to Pongo sp., with d13C data of one
    individual indicating a dietary shift from C4 to a mix of C3 and C4
    plants. Our data suggest that H. erectus on Java was maximizing the
    resources available in more open mosaic habitats and was less
    dependent on variations in seasonal resource availability. While still influenced by seasonal food availability, we infer that H. erectus was
    affected to a lesser degree than Pongo sp., which inhabited monsoonal
    rain forests on Java. We suggest that H. erectus maintained a greater
    degree of nutritional independence by exploiting the regional
    diversity of food resources across the seasons. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01947-0

    What about sea food?!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Kudu runner on Mon Jan 16 10:31:37 2023
    Dietary strategies of Pleistocene Pongo sp. and Homo erectus on Java (Indonesia)
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01947-0

    Early to mid-Pleistocene Java was inhabited by hominid taxa of great diversity, but their seasonal dietary strategies have never been explored.
    We undertook geo-chemical analyses of Pongo sp., H.erectus & other mammalian Pleistocene teeth from Sangiran.
    We reconstructed past dietary strategies at subweekly resolution, and inferred seasonal ecological patterns.
    Histologically controlled spatially resolved elemental analyses (laser-based plasma mass spectrometry) confirmed the preservation of authentic biogenic signals, despite the effect of spatially restricted diagenetic overprint.
    The Sr/Ca record of faunal remains is in line with expected trophic positions, contextualizing fossil hominid diet.
    - Pongo sp. displays marked seasonal cycles: ~3 month-long strongly elevated Sr/Ca-peaks, reflecting contrasting plant food consumption, presumably during the monsoon season,
    lower Sr/Ca ratios suggest different food availability during the dry season. - In contrast, omnivorous H.erectus shows low & less accentuated intra-annual Sr/Ca-variability vs Pongo sp.:
    d13C data of 1 individual indicate a dietary shift from C4 to a mix of C3 & C4 plants.
    Our data suggest: H.erectus on Java
    - was maximizing the resources available in more open mosaic habitats,
    - was less dependent on variations in seasonal resource availability.
    While still influenced by seasonal food availability, we infer:
    H.erectus was affected to a lesser degree than Pongo sp., which inhabited monsoonal rain-forests on Java.
    We suggest:
    H.erectus maintained a greater degree of nutritional independence by exploiting the regional diversity of food resources across the seasons.

    Kudu runner asked:
    What about sea food?!

    ??
    Don't you even know, my little boy, that aquatic food (necessary for erectus' brain elnlargement) is "less dependent on variations in seasonal resource availability"??

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to snorkel nose on Fri Jan 27 22:43:03 2023
    snorkel nose wrote:
    Dietary strategies of Pleistocene Pongo sp. and Homo erectus on Java (Indonesia)
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01947-0


    This is the REAL abstract, not the one you made up

    Abstract

    During the Early to Middle Pleistocene, Java was inhabited by hominid
    taxa of great diversity. However, their seasonal dietary strategies
    have never been explored. We undertook geochemical analyses of
    orangutan (Pongo sp.), Homo erectus and other mammalian Pleistocene
    teeth from Sangiran. We reconstructed past dietary strategies at
    subweekly resolution and inferred seasonal ecological patterns.
    Histologically controlled spatially resolved elemental analyses by
    laser-based plasma mass spectrometry confirmed the preservation of
    authentic biogenic signals despite the effect of spatially restricted diagenetic overprint. The Sr/Ca record of faunal remains is in line
    with expected trophic positions, contextualizing fossil hominid diet.
    Pongo sp. displays marked seasonal cycles with ~3 month-long strongly
    elevated Sr/Ca peaks, reflecting contrasting plant food consumption
    presumably during the monsoon season, while lower Sr/Ca ratios suggest different food availability during the dry season. In contrast,
    omnivorous H. erectus shows low and less accentuated intra-annual
    Sr/Ca variability compared to Pongo sp., with d13C data of one
    individual indicating a dietary shift from C4 to a mix of C3 and C4
    plants. Our data suggest that H. erectus on Java was maximizing the
    resources available in more open mosaic habitats and was less
    dependent on variations in seasonal resource availability. While still influenced by seasonal food availability, we infer that H. erectus was
    affected to a lesser degree than Pongo sp., which inhabited monsoonal
    rain forests on Java. We suggest that H. erectus maintained a greater
    degree of nutritional independence by exploiting the regional
    diversity of food resources across the seasons.


    Kudu runner asked:
    What about sea food?!

    ??
    Don't you even know, my little boy, that aquatic food (necessary for erectus' brain elnlargement) is "less dependent on variations in seasonal resource availability"??


    How much sea food do elephants eat? Their brain is 3 to 4
    times bigger than a human brain.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 28 08:07:09 2023
    kudu runner thinks he's as big as an elephant:

    How much sea food do elephants eat? Their brain is 3 to 4
    times bigger than a human brain.

    :-DDD

    How stupid can you be??

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 28 08:27:08 2023
    Dietary strategies of Pleistocene Pongo sp. and Homo erectus on Java (Indonesia)
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01947-0

    Early to mid-Pleistocene Java was inhabited by hominid taxa of great diversity, but their seasonal dietary strategies have never been explored.
    We undertook geo-chemical analyses of Pongo sp., H.erectus & other mammalian Pleistocene teeth from Sangiran.
    We reconstructed past dietary strategies at subweekly resolution, and inferred seasonal ecological patterns.
    Histologically controlled spatially resolved elemental analyses (laser-based plasma mass spectrometry) confirmed the preservation of authentic biogenic signals, despite the effect of spatially restricted diagenetic overprint.
    The Sr/Ca record of faunal remains is in line with expected trophic positions, contextualizing fossil hominid diet.
    - Pongo sp. displays marked seasonal cycles:
    ~3 month-long strongly elevated Sr/Ca-peaks, reflecting contrasting plant food consumption (monsoon season?),
    lower Sr/Ca ratios suggest different food availability during the dry season.
    - In contrast, omnivorous H.erectus shows low & less accentuated intra-annual Sr/Ca-variability vs Pongo sp.:
    d13C data of 1 individual indicate a dietary shift from C4 to a mix of C3 & C4 plants.
    Our data suggest: H.erectus on Java was
    - maximizing the resources available in more open mosaic habitats,
    - less dependent on variations in seasonal resource availability.
    While still influenced by seasonal food availability, we infer:
    H.erectus was affected to a lesser degree than Pongo sp., which inhabited monsoonal rain-forests on Java.
    We suggest:
    H.erectus maintained a greater degree of nutritional independence by exploiting the regional diversity of food resources across the seasons.


    Very interesting article.
    It shows that H.erectus probably had a lot of plant food (incl. seaweed?) in their diet:
    IOW, only incredible idiots believe their ancestors ran after kudus.

    The shift from C4 to C3+C4 confirms that H.erectus (probaby *at least* early-Pleist.) had shellfish in their diet:
    - shell engravings, google "Joordens Munro",
    - stone tools = opening shellfish cf. sea-otter,
    - brain size x2 vs apiths-apes, cf.DHA in seafoods,
    - pachyosteosclerosis only seen in shallow-diving tetrapods,
    - island colonizations, e.g. Flores,
    - intercontinental dispersal (+ mid-Pleist. H.neand. seasonally along Rhine, Meuse...),
    - etc.
    = coastal dispersal hypothesis.
    Google "human evolution Verhaegen" :-)

    Only incredible imbeciles still believe their Plio-Pleistocene ancestors ran over hot savannas.
    How long will these idiots still write their nonsense??

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to snorlel nose on Sat Feb 4 23:08:00 2023
    snorlel nose wrote:
    kudu runner thinks he's as big as an elephant:

    How much sea food do elephants eat? Their brain is 3 to 4
    times bigger than a human brain.

    :-DDD

    How stupid can you be??


    How do elephants get their bigger brain?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 02:50:38 2023
    Dietary strategies of Pleistocene Pongo sp. and Homo erectus on Java (Indonesia)
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01947-0

    Early to mid-Pleistocene Java was inhabited by hominid taxa of great diversity,
    but their seasonal dietary strategies have never been explored.
    We undertook geo-chemical analyses of Pongo sp., H.erectus & other mammalian Pleistocene teeth from Sangiran.
    We reconstructed past dietary strategies at subweekly resolution, and inferred seasonal ecological patterns.
    Histologically controlled spatially resolved elemental analyses (laser-based plasma mass spectrometry) confirmed the preservation of authentic biogenic signals, despite the effect of spatially restricted diagenetic overprint.
    The Sr/Ca record of faunal remains is in line with expected trophic positions, contextualizing fossil hominid diet.
    - Pongo sp. displays marked seasonal cycles:
    ~3 month-long strongly elevated Sr/Ca-peaks, reflecting contrasting plant food consumption (monsoon season?),
    lower Sr/Ca ratios suggest different food availability during the dry season. - In contrast, omnivorous H.erectus shows low & less accentuated intra-annual Sr/Ca-variability vs Pongo sp.:
    d13C data of 1 individual indicate a dietary shift from C4 to a mix of C3 & C4 plants.
    Our data suggest: H.erectus on Java was
    - maximizing the resources available in more open mosaic habitats,
    - less dependent on variations in seasonal resource availability.
    While still influenced by seasonal food availability, we infer:
    H.erectus was affected to a lesser degree than Pongo sp., which inhabited monsoonal rain-forests on Java.
    We suggest:
    H.erectus maintained a greater degree of nutritional independence by exploiting the regional diversity of food resources across the seasons.


    Very interesting article.
    It shows that H.erectus probably had a lot of plant food (incl. seaweed?) in their diet:
    IOW, only incredible idiots believe their ancestors ran after kudus.
    The shift from C4 to C3+C4 confirms that H.erectus (probaby *at least* early-Pleist.) had shellfish in their diet:
    - shell engravings, google "Joordens Munro",
    - stone tools = opening shellfish cf. sea-otter,
    - brain size x2 vs apiths-apes, cf.DHA in seafoods,
    - pachyosteosclerosis only seen in shallow-diving tetrapods,
    - island colonizations, e.g. Flores,
    - intercontinental dispersal (+ mid-Pleist. H.neand. seasonally along Rhine, Meuse...),
    - etc. = coastal dispersal hypothesis.
    Google "human evolution Verhaegen" :-)

    Only incredible imbeciles still believe their Plio-Pleistocene ancestors ran over hot savannas.
    How long will these idiots still write their nonsense??

    Now one of these idiots asks why elephants have large brains:
    -large animals,
    -(ex)aquatic,
    -no predators,
    -...? varied lifestyles? e.g. complex evolution?

    The really interesting questions are:
    why do many?most aquatic mammals evolve rel.large brains?
    - abundance of brain-specific nutrients in aq.foods? only *sea*food? DHA, iodine etc.
    - less mobile heads/necks in swimming?
    - less carrying costs: density of water?
    - complex evol.histories?
    - ...?
    - how can some people be so stupid that they believe they descend from savanna animals??
    Savanna animals have to be fast & mobile: they need rel.small heads+brains: IOW, only incredibly idiots believe they descend from kudu runners.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to snorkel nose on Sun Feb 12 22:03:40 2023
    snorkel nose wrote:


    The really interesting questions are:
    why do many?most aquatic mammals evolve rel.large brains?

    Otters have big brains? Beavers have big brains?

    - abundance of brain-specific nutrients in aq.foods? only *sea*food? DHA, iodine etc.
    - less mobile heads/necks in swimming?
    - less carrying costs: density of water?
    - complex evol.histories?
    - ...?
    - how can some people be so stupid that they believe they descend from savanna animals??
    Savanna animals have to be fast & mobile: they need rel.small heads+brains: IOW, only incredibly idiots believe they descend from kudu runners.


    Why are ALL aquatic mammals quadrupeds?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sun Feb 12 22:01:26 2023
    littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    kudu runner thinks he's as big as an elephant:

    How much sea food do elephants eat? Their brain is 3 to 4
    times bigger than a human brain.

    :-DDD

    How stupid can you be??

    Only the stupid would claim "aquatic food (necessary for
    erectus' brain elnlargement)". By the just so story approach of
    AA, an elephant must eat sea food.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Fri Mar 31 21:03:57 2023
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Only the stupid would claim "aquatic food (necessary for
    erectus' brain elnlargement)". By the just so story approach of
    AA, an elephant must eat sea food.

    Amongst the incredibly stupid things you've said, this must rank amongst
    the stupidest, if not holder of the title of absolute stupidest...

    We know human brains require DHA and we know we're not very good at synthesizing it and we know that the genetic mutation that helps us to synthesizing it is *Way* younger than erectus or even what you nimrods
    call "Anatomically Modern Humans."

    Also we know that Homo exists outside of Africa.

    For real. Homo exists outside of Africa AND has existed outside of Africa
    for millions of years.

    EVERYONE accepts that Homo spread across the world via "Coastal
    Dispersal." This is another name for "Aquatic Ape" -- Homo on water's
    edge, exploiting marine resources, following the coast..

    And, finally, you have never ever made any "Argument" about elephants
    apart from claiming that there is an argument to be made... without you
    ever making it.

    Are elephant brains as dependent upon DHA as our own?

    Are elephants as poor at synthesizing it?

    AND THEN there's the fact that the elephant brain is SIGNIFICANTLY
    smaller than is the humans, if we want to say that size is in proportion
    to total body volume or wood by weight...

    But that's you! You say incredibly stupid things that sometimes
    /Sound/ good to the intellectually lazy or challenged... people who
    don't understand the issue or what matters here... your comments can
    only fool the ignorant, stupid, emotionally disturbed... well, that's about
    it.

    Like this stupid "Elephant" thing.

    You can use it to sway a moron, sure, but at the expense of making anyone
    with critical thinking skills see you are a goddamn idiot.





    -- --

    https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/Easter/page/4

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 1 05:05:36 2023
    Op zaterdag 1 april 2023 om 06:03:58 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

    Let'm run after their kudus, JTEM, they're a waste of time, these netloons. Pliocene Homo followed S.Asian coasts -> early-Pleistocene Java etc.
    ______

    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Only the stupid would claim "aquatic food (necessary for
    erectus' brain elnlargement)". By the just so story approach of
    AA, an elephant must eat sea food.

    Amongst the incredibly stupid things you've said, this must rank amongst
    the stupidest, if not holder of the title of absolute stupidest...

    We know human brains require DHA and we know we're not very good at synthesizing it and we know that the genetic mutation that helps us to synthesizing it is *Way* younger than erectus or even what you nimrods
    call "Anatomically Modern Humans."

    Also we know that Homo exists outside of Africa.

    For real. Homo exists outside of Africa AND has existed outside of Africa
    for millions of years.

    EVERYONE accepts that Homo spread across the world via "Coastal
    Dispersal." This is another name for "Aquatic Ape" -- Homo on water's
    edge, exploiting marine resources, following the coast..

    And, finally, you have never ever made any "Argument" about elephants
    apart from claiming that there is an argument to be made... without you
    ever making it.

    Are elephant brains as dependent upon DHA as our own?

    Are elephants as poor at synthesizing it?

    AND THEN there's the fact that the elephant brain is SIGNIFICANTLY
    smaller than is the humans, if we want to say that size is in proportion
    to total body volume or wood by weight...

    But that's you! You say incredibly stupid things that sometimes
    /Sound/ good to the intellectually lazy or challenged... people who
    don't understand the issue or what matters here... your comments can
    only fool the ignorant, stupid, emotionally disturbed... well, that's about it.

    Like this stupid "Elephant" thing.

    You can use it to sway a moron, sure, but at the expense of making anyone with critical thinking skills see you are a goddamn idiot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)