https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.98.2.537
Oh, they hate this guy! He messes up the whole
"Out of Africa" purity thing!
Which is stupid. Because why is "Out of Asia" or
"Out of Oceania" any more racist than "Out of
Africa?"
It's not. It can't be. Yet the status quo pretends that
it is!
Why?
Truth is, the only reason anyone says "Out of Africa"
instead of "Out of Asia" or "Oceania" is because of
Toba.
That's it.
AND, the African population here was probably better
grouped with the Eurasian population anyway. They
weren't "Different." Oh, sure, they may have been
culturally different -- probably sexually selected -- but
that's it. They couldn't have been any different than
Chimps from Bonobos and probably a lot less.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.98.2.537
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.98.2.537
It's from 2001 and was even referenced in this group in 2004
Abstract
Published and new samples of Aboriginal Australians
and Melanesians were analyzed for mtDNA (n = 172)
and Y variation (n = 522), and the resulting profiles
were compared with the branches known so far within
the global mtDNA and the Y chromosome tree. (i) All
Australian lineages are confirmed to fall within the
mitochondrial founder branches M and N and the Y
chromosomal founders C and F, which are associated
with the exodus of modern humans from Africa
≈50–70,000 years ago.
Primum Sapienti wrote:
JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.98.2.537
It's from 2001 and was even referenced in this group in 2004
Well. There's answering a question nobody asked...
Abstract
Published and new samples of Aboriginal Australians
and Melanesians were analyzed for mtDNA (n = 172)
and Y variation (n = 522), and the resulting profiles
were compared with the branches known so far within
the global mtDNA and the Y chromosome tree. (i) All
Australian lineages are confirmed to fall within the
mitochondrial founder branches M and N and the Y
chromosomal founders C and F, which are associated
with the exodus of modern humans from Africa
≈50–70,000 years ago.
But you know for a fact this isn't true and even cited
discussions as far back as 2001.
Are you insane? You can tell me. We're all friends here.
You thought it was a new study. LOL
If it isn't true then cite the RECENT research
Primum Sapienti wrote:
You thought it was a new study. LOL
The 2001 study I cited? I thought it's 2001?
Look. You habitually posts cites you never read. Not me. Don't
attribute your errors to me.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.98.2.537
Oh, they hate this guy! He messes up the whole
"Out of Africa" purity thing!
...I've cited Mungo Man countless times over the years.
If it isn't true then cite the RECENT research
I have. And I ignored the headlines -- AS I HAVE ALWAYS DONE
-- and concentrated on the data. I'm not a child. I don't stop at
claims. I read the justification. And the claim was literally
impossible. AND I'VE CITED THIS! I've posted on the topic. I've
point it out as an example of the FAKE science that trolls like
you believe in...
AND IT NEVER MATTERED!
Although Mungo Man's mtDNA originates from a line that only
exists on Chromosome 11 of living humans, it's not the same.
There were mutations between the two. Which is exactly what
you'd expect if the original findings were correct. But they claimed
the findings were the result of contamination WHICH WOULD
REQUIRE THAT THEY BE IDENTICAL. And they weren't.
But, let's make one thing clear: BILLIONS of living humans are
walking around with the remains of an mtDNA line VASTLY more
ancient than any "Mitochondrial Eve," and it originates outside
of Africa... GOING BY ALL THE ACCEPTED STANDARDS OF
THE SCIENCE!
It is an Eurasian sequence, not an African one. It's not rare
except in Africa. It is by the very standards for evaluating DNA,
used by the Out of Africa purity nutters, Eurasian. AND, it's
far older than any "Out of Africa" claim supported by mtDNA.
We don't need Mungo Man. Mungo Man is simply the softest
target the owners of your fake "Science" can attack. But he's
irrelevant. The sequence exists, it's well known, it's carried by
BILLIONS and it is Eurasian. None of this can be changed by
Mungo Man. They attack Mungo Man because mouth breathers
don't even know how to map out a claim, much less figure out
how to prove or disprove one... as you so aptly demonstrate.
There is no dispute of the facts: BILLIONS of living humans
are walking around with remnants of this mtDNA line stuck to
their chromosome 11. And it's Eurasian. No dispute.
But see how they switched this, made it about Mungo Man and
you missed all this completely?
Go on, surprise us all... admit your mistake. Admit that you were
fooled. Because you were.
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