• H.erectus ER-1808: no bone pathology, but shallow-diving adaptation

    From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 3 06:15:03 2022
    A CRITICAL EXAMINATION OF THE BONE PATHOLOGY ON KNM-ER 1808,
    A 1.6 MILLION YEAR OLD Homo erectus FROM KOOBI FORA, KENYA
    SEAN GREGORY DOLAN 2011 Master's Thesis Dept.Anthrop. New Mexico SU Las Cruces
    https://www.academia.edu/1810818/A_Critical_Examination_of_the_Bone_Pathology_on_KNM_ER_1808_a_1_6_Million_Year_Old_Homo_erectus_from_Koobi_Fora_Kenya?email_work_card=view-paper

    Despite extensive study of the bone pathology (incl. periosteal reaction & cortical bone thickening) on the 1.6 Ma H.erectus partial skeleton ER-1808, there is still no consensus on the cause of pathogenesis.
    This Master’s thesis employed a more holistic approach than those taken previously,
    it utilized evidence from Plio-Pleistocene archaeology, paleo-enviornmental studies & genetics, to infer the cause of the bone pathology.
    Previous studieshave diagnosed ER-1808 as having hyper-vit.A (Walker cs 1982), Treponema pertenue (yaws, Rothschild cs 1995) & sickle-cell anemia (Jefferson 2004):
    - peri-osteal reaction & cortical bone thickening for hypervit.A,
    - gummatous lesions, frontal bone esions, periosteal reaction, tibial bowing & periosteal reaction for yaws,
    - periosteal reaction, cortical bone thickening & tibial bowing for SC-anemia. Synthesizing the literature about multiple aspects of the early-Pleistocene & from gross analysis of casts, X-rays & photographs of ER-1808 & the proposed diseases provides ample evidence to refute yaws & SC-anemia.
    Hypervit.A cannot be excluded or corroborated, based on this research: the skeletal sample size is small & inaccessible.
    ER-1808 postcrania do not show any of the hallmark features of a treponemal infection or SC-anemia.
    Rothschild cs (1995) should not have provided a Treponema specific diagnosis: it is ill-advised to do so based on 1 partial skeleton or bone (Hackett 1976, Ortner & Putschar 1981, Webb 1995, Meyer cs 2002).
    ER-1808 only shows peri-osteal reaction & cortical bone thickening, which do not warrant a diagnosis for a treponemal infection or SC-anemia.
    ER 1808's climate is not conducive to yaws: she lived in an arid & dry climate + little rain, and she lived mostly through drought.
    Genetics also refutes a treponemal infection or SC-anemia (Harper cs 2008, de Melo cs 2010, Liu cs 2010).
    This research is significant:
    it updates the paleo-pathological & PA literature + new data from genetics & paleo-enviornmental studies, to refute the yaws & SC-anemia diagnosis for ER-1808.

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 4 03:29:43 2022
    Op zondag 4 december 2022 om 12:25:36 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:

    A CRITICAL EXAMINATION OF THE BONE PATHOLOGY ON KNM-ER 1808,
    A 1.6 MILLION YEAR OLD Homo erectus FROM KOOBI FORA, KENYA
    SEAN GREGORY DOLAN 2011 Master's Thesis Dept.Anthrop. New Mexico SU Las Cruces
    https://www.academia.edu/1810818/A_Critical_Examination_of_the_Bone_Pathology_on_KNM_ER_1808_a_1_6_Million_Year_Old_Homo_erectus_from_Koobi_Fora_Kenya?email_work_card=view-paper

    Despite extensive study of the bone pathology (incl. periosteal reaction & cortical bone thickening) on the 1.6 Ma H.erectus partial skeleton ER-1808, there is still no consensus on the cause of pathogenesis.
    This Master’s thesis employed a more holistic approach than those taken previously,
    it utilized evidence from Plio-Pleistocene archaeology, paleo-enviornmental studies & genetics, to infer the cause of the bone pathology.
    Previous studieshave diagnosed ER-1808 as having hyper-vit.A (Walker cs 1982), Treponema pertenue (yaws, Rothschild cs 1995) & sickle-cell anemia (Jefferson 2004):
    - peri-osteal reaction & cortical bone thickening for hypervit.A,
    - gummatous lesions, frontal bone esions, periosteal reaction, tibial bowing & periosteal reaction for yaws,
    - periosteal reaction, cortical bone thickening & tibial bowing for SC-anemia.
    Synthesizing the literature about multiple aspects of the early-Pleistocene & from gross analysis of casts, X-rays & photographs of ER-1808 & the proposed diseases provides ample evidence to refute yaws & SC-anemia.
    Hypervit.A cannot be excluded or corroborated, based on this research: the skeletal sample size is small & inaccessible.
    ER-1808 postcrania do not show any of the hallmark features of a treponemal infection or SC-anemia.
    Rothschild cs (1995) should not have provided a Treponema specific diagnosis: it is ill-advised to do so based on 1 partial skeleton or bone (Hackett 1976, Ortner & Putschar 1981, Webb 1995, Meyer cs 2002).
    ER-1808 only shows peri-osteal reaction & cortical bone thickening, which do not warrant a diagnosis for a treponemal infection or SC-anemia.
    ER 1808's climate is not conducive to yaws: she lived in an arid & dry climate + little rain, and she lived mostly through drought.
    Genetics also refutes a treponemal infection or SC-anemia (Harper cs 2008, de Melo cs 2010, Liu cs 2010).
    This research is significant:
    it updates the paleo-pathological & PA literature + new data from genetics & paleo-enviornmental studies, to refute the yaws & SC-anemia diagnosis for ER-1808.

    You already posted this on 14-10-2022.
    Does your memory begin to fail you

    Yes.

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  • From Pandora@21:1/5 to littoral.homo@gmail.com on Sun Dec 4 12:25:35 2022
    On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 06:15:03 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

    A CRITICAL EXAMINATION OF THE BONE PATHOLOGY ON KNM-ER 1808,
    A 1.6 MILLION YEAR OLD Homo erectus FROM KOOBI FORA, KENYA
    SEAN GREGORY DOLAN 2011 Master's Thesis Dept.Anthrop. New Mexico SU Las Cruces
    https://www.academia.edu/1810818/A_Critical_Examination_of_the_Bone_Pathology_on_KNM_ER_1808_a_1_6_Million_Year_Old_Homo_erectus_from_Koobi_Fora_Kenya?email_work_card=view-paper

    Despite extensive study of the bone pathology (incl. periosteal reaction & cortical bone thickening) on the 1.6 Ma H.erectus partial skeleton ER-1808, there is still no consensus on the cause of pathogenesis.
    This Master’s thesis employed a more holistic approach than those taken previously,
    it utilized evidence from Plio-Pleistocene archaeology, paleo-enviornmental studies & genetics, to infer the cause of the bone pathology.
    Previous studieshave diagnosed ER-1808 as having hyper-vit.A (Walker cs 1982), Treponema pertenue (yaws, Rothschild cs 1995) & sickle-cell anemia (Jefferson 2004):
    - peri-osteal reaction & cortical bone thickening for hypervit.A,
    - gummatous lesions, frontal bone esions, periosteal reaction, tibial bowing & periosteal reaction for yaws,
    - periosteal reaction, cortical bone thickening & tibial bowing for SC-anemia. >Synthesizing the literature about multiple aspects of the early-Pleistocene & from gross analysis of casts, X-rays & photographs of ER-1808 & the proposed diseases provides ample evidence to refute yaws & SC-anemia.
    Hypervit.A cannot be excluded or corroborated, based on this research: the skeletal sample size is small & inaccessible.
    ER-1808 postcrania do not show any of the hallmark features of a treponemal infection or SC-anemia.
    Rothschild cs (1995) should not have provided a Treponema specific diagnosis: it is ill-advised to do so based on 1 partial skeleton or bone (Hackett 1976, Ortner & Putschar 1981, Webb 1995, Meyer cs 2002).
    ER-1808 only shows peri-osteal reaction & cortical bone thickening, which do not warrant a diagnosis for a treponemal infection or SC-anemia.
    ER 1808's climate is not conducive to yaws: she lived in an arid & dry climate + little rain, and she lived mostly through drought.
    Genetics also refutes a treponemal infection or SC-anemia (Harper cs 2008, de Melo cs 2010, Liu cs 2010).
    This research is significant:
    it updates the paleo-pathological & PA literature + new data from genetics & paleo-enviornmental studies, to refute the yaws & SC-anemia diagnosis for ER-1808.

    You already posted this on 14-10-2022.
    Does your memory begin to fail you, or did you have a reset?

    Anyway, that fact that the coarse-woven bone is histologically
    abnormal AND clearly distinct from the underlying normal Haversian
    bone, AND was deposited shortly before death, AND is unique to this
    individual, as a physician should make you at least suspect pathology,
    not a species-level adaptation.

    For the safety of your patients you best retire.

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  • From Pandora@21:1/5 to littoral.homo@gmail.com on Sun Dec 4 13:33:43 2022
    On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 03:29:43 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

    Op zondag 4 december 2022 om 12:25:36 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:

    A CRITICAL EXAMINATION OF THE BONE PATHOLOGY ON KNM-ER 1808,
    A 1.6 MILLION YEAR OLD Homo erectus FROM KOOBI FORA, KENYA
    SEAN GREGORY DOLAN 2011 Master's Thesis Dept.Anthrop. New Mexico SU Las Cruces
    https://www.academia.edu/1810818/A_Critical_Examination_of_the_Bone_Pathology_on_KNM_ER_1808_a_1_6_Million_Year_Old_Homo_erectus_from_Koobi_Fora_Kenya?email_work_card=view-paper

    You already posted this on 14-10-2022.
    Does your memory begin to fail you

    Yes.

    Try this and see if you can beat the chimp. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXP8qeFF6A

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Pandora on Wed Dec 7 12:08:32 2022
    Pandora wrote:

    You already posted this on 14-10-2022.

    That's Euro-dating, sweet cheeks! As long as your posts are showing up
    in God's country make that 10/14/2022! Date like an Amer'Kin and suck
    our freedom!

    Whoo-Hoo! Freedom!!!



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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Pandora on Wed Dec 7 12:19:47 2022
    Pandora wrote:

    Try this and see if you can beat the chimp.

    Clearly you are NOT the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree (not even
    in the top ten) but, the video is about how Chimp memory is different,
    the short-term "Working" memory is better.

    That is what the video is about, it's the point it's getting across.

    Your lust to "Get" someone -- your emotions -- is clouding not just your judgment but your perception.

    Wait. Omg! Does this mean you've gotten tenure?!?!?!?

    Relax. It's just a segment. I'm sure there's lots more for you to fail to comprehend, and a greater point or question it's addressing... which
    you would miss anyway.




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    https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/702405882286391296

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