Pachyosteosclerosis in Archaic Homo:
Heavy Skulls for Diving, Heavy Legs for Wading?
Compare these true shallow/slow divers with Homo erectus: https://ibb.co/27xSTPy
Pachyosteosclerosis in Archaic Homo:
Heavy Skulls for Diving, Heavy Legs for Wading?
It's not just the thickness of the bones, it's also the morphology
that matters.
Compare these true shallow/slow divers with Homo erectus: https://ibb.co/27xSTPy
Which of these is the best runner?
On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:search of waterside or aquatic foods.
Op maandag 21 november 2022 om 15:54:34 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:
Pachyosteosclerosis in Archaic Homo:
Heavy Skulls for Diving, Heavy Legs for Wading?
It's not just the thickness of the bones, it's also the morphologyMy little little boy (you're almost as ridiculous as "DD'eDeN"), try to be honest:
that matters.
Compare these true shallow/slow divers with Homo erectus: https://ibb.co/27xSTPy
Which of these is the best runner?
-we say: H.erectus was initially a coastal wader-diver,
-POS = frequent shallow-diving, whether or not they also waded.
The Aquatic Ape Evolves:
Common Misconceptions and Unproven Assumptions about the So-Called Aquatic Ape Hypothesis
Hum.Evol.28: 237-266, 2013
Abstract
While some paleo-anthropologists remain skeptical, data from diverse biological and anthropological disciplines leave little doubt that human ancestors were at some point in our past semi-aquatic: wading, swimming and/or diving in shallow waters in
African or South-Asian coasts.However, the exact scenario (how, where & when these semi-aquatic adaptations happened, how profound they were, how they fit into the hominid fossil record) is still disputed, even among anthropologists who assume some semi-aquatic adaptations.
Here I argue that the most intense phase(s) of semi-aquatic adaptation in human ancestry occurred when Homo populations adapted to slow & shallow littoral diving for sessile foods, e.g. shellfish, during part(s) of the Pleistocene, presumably along
subdisciplines for the following 3 hypotheses, which to conservative anthropologists might seem unexpected at first sight, but are based on what is known from other animals: the comparative evidence.Conclusions
Many scientific & popular publications on the so-called aquatic ape theory or aquatic ape hypothesis give incorrect impressions of how, when & where our semi-aquatic ancestors could have evolved. This paper provides arguments from diverse biological
foods at the water surface & the waterside & in the trees.(1) The aquarboreal theory of Mio-Pliocene hominoids:
our Mio- & Pliocene more apelike ancestors & relatives, incl. the australopiths, led an aquarboreal life, living in wet forests: flooded, mangrove or swamp forests, and later in more open wetlands, and fed on hard-shelled and other plant & animal
collect different sorts of aquatic & waterside foods.(2) The littoral theory of Pleistocene Homo (AAH s.s.):
early-Pleistocene archaic Homo populations dispersed along the coasts, where they reduced climbing adaptations, but frequently dived, and used stone & other tools for feeding on shallow-water & water-side foods, incl. shellfish.
(3) The wading hypothesis of early H.sapiens:
later in the Pleistocene, Homo populations gradually ventured inland along the rivers, reduced diving skills, and frequently waded with very long & stretched legs & fully upright body, to spot prey in very shallow water, and used complex tools to
modern human body shape."Okidoki?_
Just be honest!
Ignoring the mermaids & marathoners... Lets see what the professionals say:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1240-4
Rib cage anatomy in Homo erectus suggests a recent evolutionary origin of modern human body shape
"Our three-dimensional reconstruction demonstrates a short, mediolaterally wide and anteroposteriorly deep thorax in KNM-WT 15000 that differs considerably from the much shallower thorax of H. sapiens, pointing to a recent evolutionary origin of fully
This is consistent with a slow upright bipedal walker, while the shallower thorax of H sapiens is consistent with a combined upright bipedal walker-runner with a more derived more efficient respiratory system.-
Op maandag 21 november 2022 om 15:54:34 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:search of waterside or aquatic foods.
Pachyosteosclerosis in Archaic Homo:
Heavy Skulls for Diving, Heavy Legs for Wading?
It's not just the thickness of the bones, it's also the morphologyMy little little boy (you're almost as ridiculous as "DD'eDeN"), try to be honest:
that matters.
Compare these true shallow/slow divers with Homo erectus: https://ibb.co/27xSTPy
Which of these is the best runner?
-we say: H.erectus was initially a coastal wader-diver,
-POS = frequent shallow-diving, whether or not they also waded.
The Aquatic Ape Evolves:
Common Misconceptions and Unproven Assumptions about the So-Called Aquatic Ape Hypothesis
Hum.Evol.28: 237-266, 2013
Abstract
While some paleo-anthropologists remain skeptical, data from diverse biological and anthropological disciplines leave little doubt that human ancestors were at some point in our past semi-aquatic: wading, swimming and/or diving in shallow waters in
However, the exact scenario (how, where & when these semi-aquatic adaptations happened, how profound they were, how they fit into the hominid fossil record) is still disputed, even among anthropologists who assume some semi-aquatic adaptations.African or South-Asian coasts.
Here I argue that the most intense phase(s) of semi-aquatic adaptation in human ancestry occurred when Homo populations adapted to slow & shallow littoral diving for sessile foods, e.g. shellfish, during part(s) of the Pleistocene, presumably along
Conclusionssubdisciplines for the following 3 hypotheses, which to conservative anthropologists might seem unexpected at first sight, but are based on what is known from other animals: the comparative evidence.
Many scientific & popular publications on the so-called aquatic ape theory or aquatic ape hypothesis give incorrect impressions of how, when & where our semi-aquatic ancestors could have evolved. This paper provides arguments from diverse biological
(1) The aquarboreal theory of Mio-Pliocene hominoids:at the water surface & the waterside & in the trees.
our Mio- & Pliocene more apelike ancestors & relatives, incl. the australopiths, led an aquarboreal life, living in wet forests: flooded, mangrove or swamp forests, and later in more open wetlands, and fed on hard-shelled and other plant & animal foods
(2) The littoral theory of Pleistocene Homo (AAH s.s.):collect different sorts of aquatic & waterside foods.
early-Pleistocene archaic Homo populations dispersed along the coasts, where they reduced climbing adaptations, but frequently dived, and used stone & other tools for feeding on shallow-water & water-side foods, incl. shellfish.
(3) The wading hypothesis of early H.sapiens:
later in the Pleistocene, Homo populations gradually ventured inland along the rivers, reduced diving skills, and frequently waded with very long & stretched legs & fully upright body, to spot prey in very shallow water, and used complex tools to
Okidoki?_
Just be honest!
On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 5:47:42 PM UTC-5, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:search of waterside or aquatic foods.
On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
Op maandag 21 november 2022 om 15:54:34 UTC+1 schreef Pandora:
Pachyosteosclerosis in Archaic Homo:
Heavy Skulls for Diving, Heavy Legs for Wading?
It's not just the thickness of the bones, it's also the morphology that matters.My little little boy (you're almost as ridiculous as "DD'eDeN"), try to be honest:
Compare these true shallow/slow divers with Homo erectus: https://ibb.co/27xSTPy
Which of these is the best runner?
-we say: H.erectus was initially a coastal wader-diver,
-POS = frequent shallow-diving, whether or not they also waded.
The Aquatic Ape Evolves:
Common Misconceptions and Unproven Assumptions about the So-Called Aquatic Ape Hypothesis
Hum.Evol.28: 237-266, 2013
Abstract
While some paleo-anthropologists remain skeptical, data from diverse biological and anthropological disciplines leave little doubt that human ancestors were at some point in our past semi-aquatic: wading, swimming and/or diving in shallow waters in
African or South-Asian coasts.However, the exact scenario (how, where & when these semi-aquatic adaptations happened, how profound they were, how they fit into the hominid fossil record) is still disputed, even among anthropologists who assume some semi-aquatic adaptations.
Here I argue that the most intense phase(s) of semi-aquatic adaptation in human ancestry occurred when Homo populations adapted to slow & shallow littoral diving for sessile foods, e.g. shellfish, during part(s) of the Pleistocene, presumably along
biological subdisciplines for the following 3 hypotheses, which to conservative anthropologists might seem unexpected at first sight, but are based on what is known from other animals: the comparative evidence.Conclusions
Many scientific & popular publications on the so-called aquatic ape theory or aquatic ape hypothesis give incorrect impressions of how, when & where our semi-aquatic ancestors could have evolved. This paper provides arguments from diverse
foods at the water surface & the waterside & in the trees.(1) The aquarboreal theory of Mio-Pliocene hominoids:
our Mio- & Pliocene more apelike ancestors & relatives, incl. the australopiths, led an aquarboreal life, living in wet forests: flooded, mangrove or swamp forests, and later in more open wetlands, and fed on hard-shelled and other plant & animal
collect different sorts of aquatic & waterside foods.(2) The littoral theory of Pleistocene Homo (AAH s.s.): early-Pleistocene archaic Homo populations dispersed along the coasts, where they reduced climbing adaptations, but frequently dived, and used stone & other tools for feeding on shallow-water & water-side foods, incl. shellfish.
(3) The wading hypothesis of early H.sapiens:
later in the Pleistocene, Homo populations gradually ventured inland along the rivers, reduced diving skills, and frequently waded with very long & stretched legs & fully upright body, to spot prey in very shallow water, and used complex tools to
fully modern human body shape."Okidoki?_
Just be honest!
Ignoring the mermaids & marathoners... Lets see what the professionals say:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1240-4
Rib cage anatomy in Homo erectus suggests a recent evolutionary origin of modern human body shape
"Our three-dimensional reconstruction demonstrates a short, mediolaterally wide and anteroposteriorly deep thorax in KNM-WT 15000 that differs considerably from the much shallower thorax of H. sapiens, pointing to a recent evolutionary origin of
to being agile hunters-gatherers, chin smaller than European AMHs due to larger teeth"This is consistent with a slow upright bipedal walker, while the shallower thorax of H sapiens is consistent with a combined upright bipedal walker-runner with a more derived more efficient respiratory system.-
Kow swamp humans not diving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OADSuHIjETk "occipitals are of modern aboriginal morphology, bone in the basal part of the fault not thickened, post-crania bones are not as heavy and thick as urban European and Asians due
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1240-4
Rib cage anatomy in Homo erectus suggests a recent evolutionary origin of modern human body shape
"Our 3D reconstruction demonstrates a short, ML wide & AP deep thorax in KNM-WT 15000 that differs considerably from the much shallower thorax of H. sapiens, pointing to a recent evolutionary origin of fully modern human body shape."
This is consistent with a slow upright bipedal walker
kudu runner:MV addresses his strawman.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1240-4
Rib cage anatomy in Homo erectus suggests a recent evolutionary origin of modern human body shape
"Our 3D reconstruction demonstrates a short, ML wide & AP deep thorax in KNM-WT 15000 that differs considerably from the much shallower thorax of H. sapiens, pointing to a recent evolutionary origin of fully modern human body shape."
Yes, thanks, He's very large thorax confirms that our evolution from diving to walking was late-Pleistocene:
DNA analyses shows that Hs acquired the enzymes for MC-PUFAs -> LC-PUFAs only c 85 ka:
only after that time we became +-independent from aquatic foods.
Confirmed, of course.This is consistent with a slow upright bipedal walker
:-DDD
What slow upright walkers does our little kudu runner have in mind?? penguins??
How stupid can one be??
MV addresses his strawman.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1240-4
Rib cage anatomy in Homo erectus suggests a recent evolutionary origin of modern human body shape
"Our 3D reconstruction demonstrates a short, ML wide & AP deep thorax in KNM-WT 15000 that differs considerably from the much shallower thorax of H. sapiens, pointing to a recent evolutionary origin of fully modern human body shape."
Yes, thanks, He's very large thorax confirms that our evolution from diving to walking was late-Pleistocene:
DNA analyses shows that Hs acquired the enzymes for MC-PUFAs -> LC-PUFAs only c 85 ka:
only after that time we became +-independent from aquatic foods.
Rainforests are rich in small shallow crystalline streams (eg. 1.5ma Trinil) which have molluscs & crustaceans & fish & antelope.
This is consistent with a slow upright bipedal walker
Confirmed, of course.
MV addresses himself
:-DDD
What slow upright walkers does our little kudu runner have in mind?? penguins??
How stupid can one be??
We know the answer.
Pandora wrote:
Compare these true shallow/slow divers with Homo erectus:
https://ibb.co/27xSTPy
A more novel approach, one that your so called "Academics" reject,
would be to assume there's this thing called "Evolution," and that >differences in human anatomy might reflect differences in selective >pressures. Thus, comparing different archaic Homo populations to
one another can reveal differences in selective pressures... lifestyles >...environments.
kudu runner:MV addresses himself, argues with himself, and quotes himself. Can't lose that way.
MV addresses his strawman.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1240-4
Rib cage anatomy in Homo erectus suggests a recent evolutionary origin of modern human body shape
"Our 3D reconstruction demonstrates a short, ML wide & AP deep thorax in KNM-WT 15000 that differs considerably from the much shallower thorax of H. sapiens, pointing to a recent evolutionary origin of fully modern human body shape."
Yes, thanks, He's very large thorax confirms that our evolution from diving to walking was late-Pleistocene:
DNA analyses shows that Hs acquired the enzymes for MC-PUFAs -> LC-PUFAs only c 85 ka:
only after that time we became +-independent from aquatic foods.
Rainforests are rich in small shallow crystalline streams (eg. 1.5ma Trinil) which have molluscs & crustaceans & fish & antelope.Yes, molluscs & crustaceans, hmm, full of LC-PUFAs, necessary for our brain. We evolve the ability to make long-chain- from medium-chain-PUFAs c 85 Ka.
This is consistent with a slow upright bipedal walker
Confirmed, of course.:-DDDDD
MV addresses himself
:-DDD
What slow upright walkers does our little kudu runner have in mind?? penguins??
How stupid can one be??
We know the answer.Yes, thanks, my little boy.
MV ... Can't lose that way.
kudu runner:
MV ... Can't lose that way.
:-) finally!
An anti-academic attitude
unwavering enthousiasm for fringe theories.
MV ... Can't lose that way.
:-) finally!
Psychosis!
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