• pachy-osteo-sclerosis in H.erectus

    From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 9 06:12:07 2022
    mm skull thickness
    gorilla 3.6
    chimp 5.3
    australopith 5.6
    H.sapiens 5.6
    H.erectus 10.6
    H.neanderth. 8.1

    % cortical bone
    apes 42
    swine 30
    saiga 32
    H.sapiens 58
    ER-1472, -1481 74
    Ichthyolestes 75

    (Kennedy 1991, Aiello 1990, Thewissen 2007)

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  • From Pandora@21:1/5 to littoral.homo@gmail.com on Wed Nov 9 17:16:09 2022
    On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 06:12:07 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

    mm skull thickness
    gorilla 3.6
    chimp 5.3
    australopith 5.6
    H.sapiens 5.6
    H.erectus 10.6
    H.neanderth. 8.1

    This is misleading, because it depends very much on what comparative
    sample of H. sapiens you use and where on the skull you measure
    thickness. For example, Late Pleistocene H. sapiens from Australia
    (Kow Swamp, Nacurrie, Coobol Creek, Keilor, Cohuna) from 14,000 to
    9000 years BP have skull thickness at some points as thick or even
    thicker than Homo erectus, or at least statistically not significantly different, with the exception of the parietal eminence.

    See table 3 in: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285087555_Cranial_vault_thickness_in_Asian_Homo_erectus_and_Homo_sapiens

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 9 14:12:43 2022
    some kudu runner:

    mm skull thickness
    gorilla 3.6
    chimp 5.3
    australopith 5.6
    H.sapiens 5.6
    H.erectus 10.6
    H.neanderth. 8.1

    This is misleading,

    Liar.
    It only shows that the Kow Swamp people dived a lot.
    Grow up!

    because it depends very much on what comparative
    sample of H. sapiens you use and where on the skull you measure
    thickness. For example, Late Pleistocene H. sapiens from Australia
    (Kow Swamp, Nacurrie, Coobol Creek, Keilor, Cohuna) from 14,000 to
    9000 years BP have skull thickness at some points as thick or even
    thicker than Homo erectus, or at least statistically not significantly different, with the exception of the parietal eminence.
    See table 3 in: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285087555_Cranial_vault_thickness_in_Asian_Homo_erectus_and_Homo_sapiens

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  • From Pandora@21:1/5 to littoral.homo@gmail.com on Thu Nov 10 15:28:18 2022
    On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 14:12:43 -0800 (PST), "littor...@gmail.com" <littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

    some kudu runner:

    mm skull thickness
    gorilla 3.6
    chimp 5.3
    australopith 5.6
    H.sapiens 5.6
    H.erectus 10.6
    H.neanderth. 8.1

    This is misleading,

    Liar.

    No, my little boy, it's the naked truth, based on firm empirical
    evidence:

    "Vault bone thickness dimensions in Asian H. erectus have considerable
    overlap with terminal Pleistocene and recent Australian Aboriginal
    populations, as wel as "archaic" H. sapiens. The absence of a firm
    distinction between cranial vault bone thickness in H. erectus, H.
    sapiens and Australopithecus precludes its use as an autopomorphic
    trait in H. erectus."

    It only shows that the Kow Swamp people dived a lot.

    On the contrary, late Pleistocene Homo sapiens from Australia are a
    nice refutation of the conjecture that skeletal robusticity in Homo
    has anything to do with diving or other habitual aquatic activities.

    because it depends very much on what comparative
    sample of H. sapiens you use and where on the skull you measure
    thickness. For example, Late Pleistocene H. sapiens from Australia
    (Kow Swamp, Nacurrie, Coobol Creek, Keilor, Cohuna) from 14,000 to
    9000 years BP have skull thickness at some points as thick or even
    thicker than Homo erectus, or at least statistically not significantly
    different, with the exception of the parietal eminence.
    See table 3 in:
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285087555_Cranial_vault_thickness_in_Asian_Homo_erectus_and_Homo_sapiens

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Thu Nov 10 19:14:50 2022
    On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 5:12:44 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    some kudu runner:
    mm skull thickness
    gorilla 3.6
    chimp 5.3
    australopith 5.6
    H.sapiens 5.6
    H.erectus 10.6
    H.neanderth. 8.1

    This is misleading,
    Liar.
    It only shows that the Kow Swamp people dived a lot.
    Grow up!
    because it depends very much on what comparative
    sample of H. sapiens you use and where on the skull you measure
    thickness. For example, Late Pleistocene H. sapiens from Australia
    (Kow Swamp, Nacurrie, Coobol Creek, Keilor, Cohuna) from 14,000 to
    9000 years BP have skull thickness at some points as thick or even
    thicker than Homo erectus, or at least statistically not significantly different, with the exception of the parietal eminence.
    See table 3 in: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285087555_Cranial_vault_thickness_in_Asian_Homo_erectus_and_Homo_sapiens

    "This is a quantitative scientific claim for which he still provides no supporting data. This is how pseudoscience works: it sounds scientific, but the real data is still missing." HoM

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 11 03:59:46 2022
    Op vrijdag 11 november 2022 om 04:14:51 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:


    "This is a quantitative scientific claim for which he still provides no supporting data. This is how pseudoscience works: it sounds scientific, but the real data is still missing." HoM

    :-) Thanks, my little boy, yes, there's 0 evidence that your Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes. :-DDD
    Only incredible imbeciles pseudo-scientifically believe to have run after antelopes.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331432412_Coastal_Dispersal_of_Pleistocene_Homo

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