• The role of the large nose in saiga vocalizations and heat exchange

    From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 8 20:50:17 2022
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2375844/
    A nose that roars: anatomical specializations and behavioural
    features of rutting male saiga

    Abstract
    The involvement of the unique saiga nose in vocal production has
    been neglected so far. Rutting male saigas produce loud nasal roars.
    Prior to roaring, they tense and extend their noses in a highly
    stereotypic manner. This change of nose configuration includes
    dorsal folding and convex curving of the nasal vestibulum and is
    maintained until the roar ends. Red and fallow deer males that
    orally roar achieve a temporary increase of vocal tract length (vtl) by
    larynx retraction. Saiga males attain a similar effect by pulling their flexible nasal vestibulum rostrally, allowing for a temporary elongation
    of the nasal vocal tract by about 20%. Decrease of formant frequencies
    and formant dispersion, as acoustic effects of an increase of vtl, are
    assumed to convey important information on the quality of a dominant
    male to conspecifics, e.g. on body size and fighting ability. Nasal roaring
    in saiga may equally serve to deter rival males and to attract females. Anatomical constraints might have set a limit to the rostral pulling of
    the nasal vestibulum. It seems likely that the sexual dimorphism of the
    saiga nose was induced by sexual selection. Adult males of many
    mammalian species, after sniffing or licking female urine or genital secretions, raise their head and strongly retract their upper lip and
    small nasal vestibulum while inhalating orally. This flehmen behaviour
    is assumed to promote transport of non-volatile substances via the
    incisive ducts into the vomeronasal organs for pheromone detection.
    The flehmen aspect in saiga involves the extensive flexible walls of the greatly enlarged nasal vestibulum and is characterized by a distinctly
    concave configuration of the nose region, the reverse of that observed
    in nasal roaring. A step-by-step model for the gradual evolution of the
    saiga nose is presented here.


    http://www.ultimateungulate.com/artiodactyla/saiga_tatarica.html
    "The large nose is functional throughout the year, filtering out airborne
    dust during the summer migrations and heating the air before it reaches
    the lungs during the icy winters."

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Wed Nov 9 04:05:35 2022
    On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 10:50:21 PM UTC-5, Primum Sapienti wrote:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2375844/
    A nose that roars: anatomical specializations and behavioural
    features of rutting male saiga

    Abstract
    The involvement of the unique saiga nose in vocal production has
    been neglected so far. Rutting male saigas produce loud nasal roars.
    Prior to roaring, they tense and extend their noses in a highly
    stereotypic manner. This change of nose configuration includes
    dorsal folding and convex curving of the nasal vestibulum and is
    maintained until the roar ends. Red and fallow deer males that
    orally roar achieve a temporary increase of vocal tract length (vtl) by larynx retraction. Saiga males attain a similar effect by pulling their flexible nasal vestibulum rostrally, allowing for a temporary elongation
    of the nasal vocal tract by about 20%. Decrease of formant frequencies
    and formant dispersion, as acoustic effects of an increase of vtl, are assumed to convey important information on the quality of a dominant
    male to conspecifics, e.g. on body size and fighting ability. Nasal roaring in saiga may equally serve to deter rival males and to attract females. Anatomical constraints might have set a limit to the rostral pulling of
    the nasal vestibulum. It seems likely that the sexual dimorphism of the
    saiga nose was induced by sexual selection. Adult males of many
    mammalian species, after sniffing or licking female urine or genital secretions, raise their head and strongly retract their upper lip and
    small nasal vestibulum while inhalating orally. This flehmen behaviour
    is assumed to promote transport of non-volatile substances via the
    incisive ducts into the vomeronasal organs for pheromone detection.
    The flehmen aspect in saiga involves the extensive flexible walls of the greatly enlarged nasal vestibulum and is characterized by a distinctly concave configuration of the nose region, the reverse of that observed
    in nasal roaring. A step-by-step model for the gradual evolution of the
    saiga nose is presented here.


    http://www.ultimateungulate.com/artiodactyla/saiga_tatarica.html
    "The large nose is functional throughout the year, filtering out airborne dust during the summer migrations and heating the air before it reaches
    the lungs during the icy winters."

    Nooo! They was aquamariners at the coasts, wading, swimming and diving!

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 9 06:00:19 2022
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2375844/
    A nose that roars: anatomical specializations and behavioural
    features of rutting male saiga
    The involvement of the unique saiga nose in vocal production has
    been neglected so far.

    ??
    Not at all, see my new book:
    "De Evolutie van de Mens - waarom wij rechtop lopen en kunnen spreken" Academische uitgeverij - Utrecht NL 2022

    Rutting male saigas produce loud nasal roars.
    Prior to roaring, they tense & extend their noses in a highly
    stereotypic manner. This change of nose configuration includes
    dorsal folding & convex curving of the nasal vestibulum, and is
    maintained until the roar ends. Red & fallow deer males that
    orally roar achieve a temporary increase of vocal tract length (vtl) by larynx retraction. Saiga males attain a similar effect by pulling their flexible nasal vestibulum rostrally, allowing for a temporary elongation
    of the nasal vocal tract by c 20 %. Decrease of formant frequencies
    & formant dispersion, as acoustic effects of an increase of vtl, are assumed to convey important information on the quality of a dominant
    male to conspecifics, e.g. on body size & fighting ability. Nasal roaring in saiga may equally serve to deter rival males, and to attract females. Anatomical constraints might have set a limit to the rostral pulling of
    the nasal vestibulum. It seems likely that the sex.dimorphism of the
    saiga nose was induced by sex.selection. Adult males of many
    mammalian spp, after sniffing or licking female urine or genital secretions, raise their head, and strongly retract their upper lip &
    small nasal vestibulum, while inhalating orally. This flehmen behaviour
    is assumed to promote transport of non-volatile substances via the
    incisive ducts into the vomero-nasal organs for pheromone detection.
    The flehmen aspect in saiga involves the extensive flexible walls of the greatly enlarged nasal vestibulum, and is characterized by a distinctly concave configuration of the nose region, the reverse of that observed
    in nasal roaring. A step-by-step model for the gradual evolution of the saiga nose is presented here. http://www.ultimateungulate.com/artiodactyla/saiga_tatarica.html
    "The large nose is functional throughout the year, filtering out airborne dust during the summer migrations and heating the air before it reaches
    the lungs during the icy winters."

    Beautiful article, but it should discern between primary & secondary functions.

    Some netloon:

    Nooo! They was aquamariners at the coasts, wading, swimming and diving!

    ????
    Why are such netloons so incredibly stupid??
    Can't they google "saiga swim"??

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Thu Nov 10 00:46:58 2022
    On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 9:00:21 AM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2375844/
    A nose that roars: anatomical specializations and behavioural
    features of rutting male saiga
    The involvement of the unique saiga nose in vocal production has
    been neglected so far.
    ??
    Not at all, see my new book:
    "De Evolutie van de Mens - waarom wij rechtop lopen en kunnen spreken" Academische uitgeverij - Utrecht NL 2022
    Rutting male saigas produce loud nasal roars.
    Prior to roaring, they tense & extend their noses in a highly
    stereotypic manner. This change of nose configuration includes
    dorsal folding & convex curving of the nasal vestibulum, and is maintained until the roar ends. Red & fallow deer males that
    orally roar achieve a temporary increase of vocal tract length (vtl) by larynx retraction. Saiga males attain a similar effect by pulling their flexible nasal vestibulum rostrally, allowing for a temporary elongation of the nasal vocal tract by c 20 %. Decrease of formant frequencies
    & formant dispersion, as acoustic effects of an increase of vtl, are assumed to convey important information on the quality of a dominant
    male to conspecifics, e.g. on body size & fighting ability. Nasal roaring in saiga may equally serve to deter rival males, and to attract females. Anatomical constraints might have set a limit to the rostral pulling of the nasal vestibulum. It seems likely that the sex.dimorphism of the saiga nose was induced by sex.selection. Adult males of many
    mammalian spp, after sniffing or licking female urine or genital secretions, raise their head, and strongly retract their upper lip & small nasal vestibulum, while inhalating orally. This flehmen behaviour is assumed to promote transport of non-volatile substances via the incisive ducts into the vomero-nasal organs for pheromone detection.
    The flehmen aspect in saiga involves the extensive flexible walls of the greatly enlarged nasal vestibulum, and is characterized by a distinctly concave configuration of the nose region, the reverse of that observed
    in nasal roaring. A step-by-step model for the gradual evolution of the saiga nose is presented here. http://www.ultimateungulate.com/artiodactyla/saiga_tatarica.html
    "The large nose is functional throughout the year, filtering out airborne dust during the summer migrations and heating the air before it reaches the lungs during the icy winters."
    Beautiful article, but it should discern between primary & secondary functions.

    Some netloon:
    Nooo! They was aquamariners at the coasts, wading, swimming and diving!
    ????
    Why are such netloons so incredibly stupid??
    Can't they google "saiga swim"??
    Backfloat snorkel??

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