• Mouth Breathers: OoA by boat!

    From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 12 20:16:22 2022
    Omg, this is rancid #@$%...

    https://youtu.be/4a4bnpYN0oo

    NOTE: The graphics are as misleading as ever.

    It's Out of Africa idiocy... "They persistence ran so
    far that they built boats!"

    And what's the other hockey-helmet-wearing, drool
    soaked stupid thing they say? Oh, yes:

    "early modern humans."

    So 200,000 years ago these were "early modern
    humans" leaving Africa by boat... and taking 150,000
    years to reach Spain, France and Italy?!?!?

    Look. It's all bullshit.

    EVERYTHING has to bow to the "Out of Africa" purity
    idiocy... everything... the 1% decided that we can't
    deal with the fact that there were different human
    populations, so we all have to be from the same place
    at the same time, and that place is Africa.

    And "early modern humans?"

    Sure. These were early moderns. If Neanderthals were.
    And Denisovans. And erectus...

    NOTHING living 200,000 years ago could be mistaken
    for a modern human. NOTHING living 200,000 years
    ago was leaving Africa on a boat.

    ALSO: Neanderthals *Were* Homo sapiens, you battery
    licking nimrods... Homo sapien neanderthalensis

    There isn't even a slam-dunk argument to call Neanderthals
    a different species at all. I mean, there's no clear dividing
    line between species, no definitive test, but the biggest and
    the best test of all is interbreeding and they interbred! So
    they pass the most convincing Same-Species test on the one
    hand, and there's no "Different Species" test to counter...

    Oh, that's right, I forgot: OUT OF AFRICA PURITY MUST BE
    PRESERVED AT ALL COST!

    TAKE NO PRISONERS!

    QUESTIONS CAN NOT BE TOLERATED!

    The model they present here is insane: "They left Africa
    on boats 200,000 years ago, reaching Europe 150,000
    years ago and the Americas 12,000 years ago, so obviously
    they were really slow rowers...

    What are they afraid of?

    Answer: Us.

    When our overlords go to these lengths to intentionally
    dumb us down, they're afraid of us. They're not smarter
    than us, all the privilege and status in the world isn't
    enough, they have to fill our heads with mush else we
    threaten them...

    I don't get this at all. If you're in control and you know for
    a fact that you shouldn't be, you're not that good, totally
    unimpressive, that you could never have your position if
    you were forced to compete, shouldn't you want to step
    down?

    Is it really better to slam the ship into an iceberg rather
    than allow someone competent to be in command so
    that you can safely arrive at your destination?

    Think of this: You're seriously ill. This is life threatening.
    So do you want the most competent doctor there is, or the
    most competent doctor amongst the Lucky Sperm Club,
    who were all so convinced of their own ineptitude that
    they had to rig everything just to become doctors in the
    first place?

    Even the members of the lucky sperm club get sick. Don't
    they want to get better?

    History is gone. Science is gone. Education is gone. We
    as a society no longer have facts, only "Truths" that can
    never be questioned. Or else.






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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 13 04:19:52 2022
    Op donderdag 13 oktober 2022 om 05:16:23 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

    Yes, there's a lot of nonsense in the OoA by boat ideas:
    archaic Homo were excellent divers: ear exostoses, pachyosteosclerosis etc.
    But it's not impossible that most H.sapiens came (not by boat probably) from Africa say 200 ka?

    _____


    Omg, this is rancid #@$%...
    https://youtu.be/4a4bnpYN0oo
    NOTE: The graphics are as misleading as ever.
    It's Out of Africa idiocy... "They persistence ran so
    far that they built boats!"

    And what's the other hockey-helmet-wearing, drool
    soaked stupid thing they say? Oh, yes:

    "early modern humans."

    So 200,000 years ago these were "early modern
    humans" leaving Africa by boat... and taking 150,000
    years to reach Spain, France and Italy?!?!?

    Look. It's all bullshit.

    EVERYTHING has to bow to the "Out of Africa" purity
    idiocy... everything... the 1% decided that we can't
    deal with the fact that there were different human
    populations, so we all have to be from the same place
    at the same time, and that place is Africa.

    And "early modern humans?"

    Sure. These were early moderns. If Neanderthals were.
    And Denisovans. And erectus...

    NOTHING living 200,000 years ago could be mistaken
    for a modern human. NOTHING living 200,000 years
    ago was leaving Africa on a boat.

    ALSO: Neanderthals *Were* Homo sapiens, you battery
    licking nimrods... Homo sapien neanderthalensis

    There isn't even a slam-dunk argument to call Neanderthals
    a different species at all. I mean, there's no clear dividing
    line between species, no definitive test, but the biggest and
    the best test of all is interbreeding and they interbred! So
    they pass the most convincing Same-Species test on the one
    hand, and there's no "Different Species" test to counter...

    Oh, that's right, I forgot: OUT OF AFRICA PURITY MUST BE
    PRESERVED AT ALL COST!

    TAKE NO PRISONERS!

    QUESTIONS CAN NOT BE TOLERATED!

    The model they present here is insane: "They left Africa
    on boats 200,000 years ago, reaching Europe 150,000
    years ago and the Americas 12,000 years ago, so obviously
    they were really slow rowers...

    What are they afraid of?

    Answer: Us.

    When our overlords go to these lengths to intentionally
    dumb us down, they're afraid of us. They're not smarter
    than us, all the privilege and status in the world isn't
    enough, they have to fill our heads with mush else we
    threaten them...

    I don't get this at all. If you're in control and you know for
    a fact that you shouldn't be, you're not that good, totally
    unimpressive, that you could never have your position if
    you were forced to compete, shouldn't you want to step
    down?

    Is it really better to slam the ship into an iceberg rather
    than allow someone competent to be in command so
    that you can safely arrive at your destination?

    Think of this: You're seriously ill. This is life threatening.
    So do you want the most competent doctor there is, or the
    most competent doctor amongst the Lucky Sperm Club,
    who were all so convinced of their own ineptitude that
    they had to rig everything just to become doctors in the
    first place?

    Even the members of the lucky sperm club get sick. Don't
    they want to get better?

    History is gone. Science is gone. Education is gone. We
    as a society no longer have facts, only "Truths" that can
    never be questioned. Or else.






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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Thu Oct 13 13:07:51 2022
    littor...@gmail.com wrote:

    Yes, there's a lot of nonsense in the OoA by boat ideas:
    archaic Homo were excellent divers: ear exostoses, pachyosteosclerosis etc. But it's not impossible that most H.sapiens came (not by boat probably) from Africa say 200 ka?

    I was going to say that their model here is ridiculous but it's far worse
    than that! They literally have no model!

    Aquatic Ape fits all the pieces which we do have. We have evidence for Wolpoff's Multiregionalism,
    but this is not in conflict with Aquatic Ape. IT IS in conflict with Out of Africa purity but not
    Aquatic Ape. In fact, they compliment each other! Wolpoff needed some mechanism to deliver
    people to these far flung regions. This result would be an inescapable conclusion to Aquatic Ape!
    By consuming resources along a stretch of shore front then moving on, they're going to eventually
    reach all those far flung regions of Wolpoff's Multiregionalism!

    Again, not the case with Out of Africa purity....

    So what they're pretending is a model here is that "Modern Humans" fell from the sky, endurance
    ran all the way into boats 200,000 years years ago, and it only took them a mere 150,000 years
    to cross the Mediterranean... Lickety Split!

    There's no context. Nothing.

    If anything, it suggests a European origins of modern man. These water crossings are totally
    in sync with discoveries in Greece:

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/10/piece-of-skull-found-in-greece-is-oldest-human-fossil-outside-africa

    If the dating is correct for this skull and the water crossings, what are the odds that we're
    talking to completely separate & distinct populations? I'd say about nil.

    Zip. Zero. Nadda.

    So while Aquatic Ape fits the context of all the existing finds and the theories to explain
    them (Multiregionalism, for example), this Out of Africa purity is ridiculous.

    You literally have to IGNORE all the rest of the evidence to believe any of this OoA bull.

    And, no, as a matter of fact I don't think I'm smarter than these people. Which is why I'm
    angry. The self imposed elite who wrecked science aren't stupid, they're evil lying douche
    bags.



    I'm babbling.

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 13 15:20:44 2022
    Op donderdag 13 oktober 2022 om 22:07:52 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

    You're completely right, of course, "coastal dispersal" (a term of Stephen Munro IIRC) is inherently +-the opposite of out-of-any-continent ideas,
    but our ancestors' coastal dispersal was Plio-Pleistocene, google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo":
    so far, I can't exclude the possibility that H.sapiens came from Africa late-Pleistocene
    (+ some neandertal DNA in Eurasian H.sapiens).

    Yes, there's a lot of nonsense in the OoA by boat ideas:
    archaic Homo were excellent divers: ear exostoses, pachyosteosclerosis etc. But it's not impossible that most H.sapiens came (not by boat probably) from Africa say 200 ka?

    I was going to say that their model here is ridiculous but it's far worse than that! They literally have no model!

    Aquatic Ape fits all the pieces which we do have. We have evidence for Wolpoff's Multiregionalism,
    but this is not in conflict with Aquatic Ape. IT IS in conflict with Out of Africa purity but not
    Aquatic Ape. In fact, they compliment each other! Wolpoff needed some mechanism to deliver
    people to these far flung regions. This result would be an inescapable conclusion to Aquatic Ape!
    By consuming resources along a stretch of shore front then moving on, they're going to eventually
    reach all those far flung regions of Wolpoff's Multiregionalism!

    Again, not the case with Out of Africa purity....

    So what they're pretending is a model here is that "Modern Humans" fell from the sky, endurance
    ran all the way into boats 200,000 years years ago, and it only took them a mere 150,000 years
    to cross the Mediterranean... Lickety Split!

    There's no context. Nothing.

    If anything, it suggests a European origins of modern man. These water crossings are totally
    in sync with discoveries in Greece:

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/10/piece-of-skull-found-in-greece-is-oldest-human-fossil-outside-africa

    If the dating is correct for this skull and the water crossings, what are the odds that we're
    talking to completely separate & distinct populations? I'd say about nil.

    Zip. Zero. Nadda.

    So while Aquatic Ape fits the context of all the existing finds and the theories to explain
    them (Multiregionalism, for example), this Out of Africa purity is ridiculous.

    You literally have to IGNORE all the rest of the evidence to believe any of this OoA bull.

    And, no, as a matter of fact I don't think I'm smarter than these people. Which is why I'm
    angry. The self imposed elite who wrecked science aren't stupid, they're evil lying douche
    bags.

    I'm babbling.

    Yes.

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