Mio-Pliocene great apes were aquarboreal in coastal forests + rivers-bais-lakes around the Tethys Ocean, google "Aquarboreal Ancestors".
About 15 Ma (Mesopotamian Seaway closure?) they split into pongids (E) & hominids (W).
Miocene hominids were aquarboreal in coastal forests + bais-lakes-rivers around the Tethys-Sea=Med.Sea + Red Sea.
Late-Miocene HPG lived in the Red Sea,
c 8 Ma they split into G & HP:
Gorilla followed the Rift: Praeanthr.afarensis-aethiopicus-boisei..., google "gorilla bai"
HP in the Red Sea or Gulf split c 5 Ma into H & P:
--Pan, still aquarboreal, followed the E.Afr.coasts + mangroves-lakes-bais-rivers...: Australopith.africanus-naledi-robustus..., google "bonobo wading"
--Homo (?initially remained in the Red Sea or Gulf? Pliocene?) became shallow-diving & followed the S-Asian coasts & other Old World coasts + rivers-lakes... google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo PPT"
Correction (before some idiot thinks he has to give comments):
Late-Miocene hominids did not live permanently *in* the Red Sea, of course, but around it.
There are overlapping possibilities, e.g.
-after the H/P split, P followed the E.Afr.coast, H followed the S.Asian coast (Pliocene) ->H.erectus Java, Flores, Luzon,
-Pliocene H remained in the Red Sea, and only during the Pleistocene followed different Old World sea-coasts,
-Pliocene H (Red Sea? Danakil?? or S.Asian coasts?) became strongly adapted to shallow-diving ("aquatic ape"),
-or only early-Pleistocene evolved from aquarboreal to shallow-diving (connection with sea-levels? or Tp?).
Mio-Pliocene great apes were aquarboreal in coastal forests
About 15 Ma (Mesopotamian Seaway closure?) they split into pongids (E) & hominids (W).
Miocene hominids were aquarboreal in coastal forests + bais-lakes-rivers around the Tethys-Sea=Med.Sea + Red Sea
Late-Miocene HPG lived in the Red Sea,
c 8 Ma they split into G & HP:
Gorilla followed the Rift: Praeanthr.afarensis-aethiopicus-boisei..., google "gorilla bai"
HP in the Red Sea or Gulf split c 5 Ma into H & P:
--Pan, still aquarboreal, followed the E.Afr.coasts + mangroves-lakes-bais-rivers...: Australopith.africanus-naledi-robustus..., google "bonobo wading"
--Homo (?initially remained in the Red Sea or Gulf? Pliocene?) became shallow-diving & followed the S-Asian coasts & other Old World coasts + rivers-lakes... google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo PPT"
Late-Miocene hominids did not live permanently *in* the Red Sea, of course, but around it.
Does that include 4 specimens of 11.6ma Danuvius of Bavaria north of the Alps?
There are overlapping possibilities, e.g.
-after the H/P split, P followed the E.Afr.coast, H followed the S.Asian coast (Pliocene) ->H.erectus Java, Flores, Luzon,
-Pliocene H remained in the Red Sea, and only during the Pleistocene followed different Old World sea-coasts,
-Pliocene H (Red Sea? Danakil?? or S.Asian coasts?) became strongly adapted to shallow-diving ("aquatic ape"),
-or only early-Pleistocene evolved from aquarboreal to shallow-diving (connection with sea-levels? or Tp?).
Mio-Pliocene great apes were aquarboreal in coastal forests
Does that include Danuvius of Bavaria, found in a former meandering rivulet? North of the Alps?
+ rivers-bais-lakes around the Tethys Ocean, google "Aquarboreal Ancestors".
About 15 Ma (Mesopotamian Seaway closure?) they split into pongids (E) & hominids (W).
Miocene hominids were aquarboreal in coastal forests + bais-lakes-rivers around the Tethys-Sea=Med.Sea + Red Sea
Does that include Danuvius of Bavaria, found in a former meandering rivulet? North of the Alps?
Late-Miocene HPG lived in the Red Sea,
Sleeping in giant clamshells?
c 8 Ma they split into G & HP:
Gorilla followed the Rift: Praeanthr.afarensis-aethiopicus-boisei..., google "gorilla bai"
HP in the Red Sea or Gulf split c 5 Ma into H & P:
--Pan, still aquarboreal, followed the E.Afr.coasts + mangroves-lakes-bais-rivers...: Australopith.africanus-naledi-robustus..., google "bonobo wading"
--Homo (?initially remained in the Red Sea or Gulf? Pliocene?) became shallow-diving & followed the S-Asian coasts & other Old World coasts + rivers-lakes... google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo PPT"
Fantastically confusing.
Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2021 om 02:11:49 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:Latin Danuvius from Celtic *danu(w)-yo-, from PIE *danu- , mein kleine tochter, nicht "Red Sea".
Late-Miocene hominids did not live permanently *in* the Red Sea, of course, but around it.
Does that include 4 specimens of 11.6ma Danuvius of Bavaria north of the Alps?Danuvius means Donau.
Bavaria is "in the red sea"?There are overlapping possibilities, e.g.
-after the H/P split, P followed the E.Afr.coast, H followed the S.Asian coast (Pliocene) ->H.erectus Java, Flores, Luzon,
-Pliocene H remained in the Red Sea, and only during the Pleistocene followed different Old World sea-coasts,
-Pliocene H (Red Sea? Danakil?? or S.Asian coasts?) became strongly adapted to shallow-diving ("aquatic ape"),
-or only early-Pleistocene evolved from aquarboreal to shallow-diving (connection with sea-levels? or Tp?).
Mio-Pliocene great apes were aquarboreal in coastal forests
Does that include Danuvius of Bavaria, found in a former meandering rivulet? North of the Alps?Do you ask every question twice?
"Hominoid Evolution in a (coconut??) Nutshell"+ rivers-bais-lakes around the Tethys Ocean, google "Aquarboreal Ancestors".
About 15 Ma (Mesopotamian Seaway closure?) they split into pongids (E) & hominids (W).
Miocene hominids were aquarboreal in coastal forests + bais-lakes-rivers around the Tethys-Sea=Med.Sea + Red Sea
Does that include Danuvius of Bavaria, found in a former meandering rivulet? North of the Alps?Sigh.
Late-Miocene HPG lived in the Red Sea,
Sleeping in giant clamshells?Grow up, little boy.
Jah, meine kleine tochter.c 8 Ma they split into G & HP:
Gorilla followed the Rift: Praeanthr.afarensis-aethiopicus-boisei..., google "gorilla bai"
HP in the Red Sea or Gulf split c 5 Ma into H & P:
--Pan, still aquarboreal, followed the E.Afr.coasts + mangroves-lakes-bais-rivers...: Australopith.africanus-naledi-robustus..., google "bonobo wading"
--Homo (?initially remained in the Red Sea or Gulf? Pliocene?) became shallow-diving & followed the S-Asian coasts & other Old World coasts + rivers-lakes... google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo PPT"
Fantastically confusing.For little children, Yes.
Late-Miocene hominids did not live permanently *in* the Red Sea, of course, but around it.
Does that include 4 specimens of 11.6ma Danuvius of Bavaria north of the Alps?
Danuvius means Donau.
Latin Danuvius from Celtic *danu(w)-yo-, from PIE *danu- , mein kleine tochter, nicht "Red Sea".
Are you really that stupid, DD?
Sigh.
Again: very simple:
great apes along Tethys Ocean
Mesopotamian Seaway closure c 15 M
-pongids E
-hominids W
Okidoki??
On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 2:51:20 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2021 om 02:11:49 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
Late-Miocene hominids did not live permanently *in* the Red Sea, of course, but around it.
Latin Danuvius from Celtic *danu(w)-yo-, from PIE *danu- , mein kleine tochter, nicht "Red Sea".Does that include 4 specimens of 11.6ma Danuvius of Bavaria north of the Alps?Danuvius means Donau.
Bavaria is "in the red sea"?
Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2021 om 11:13:57 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
Bavaria is "in the red sea"?It's difficult to understand how stupid you are:
are you really so stupid, DD, that you believe that because there were hominids along the Donau, there could not have been hominids in the Red Sea???
Bavaria is "in the red sea"?
are you really so stupid, DD, that you believe that because there were hominids along the Donau, there could not have been hominids in the Red Sea???
Physical evidence: 4 skeletal fossils in Bavaria of Danuvius at shallow meandering rivulet precisely dated.
Speculation: Red Sea ...?
Bavarian Danuvius proves HPG lived in the Red Sea?Bavaria is "in the red sea"?are you really so stupid, DD, that you believe that because there were hominids along the Donau, there could not have been hominids in the Red Sea???
Physical evidence: 4 skeletal fossils in Bavaria of Danuvius at shallow meandering rivulet precisely dated.Sigh. Do you never read what I wrote?
Speculation: Red Sea ...?
The biology is clear: orangs live in SE.Asia, chimps-gorillas in Africa, H.erectus Flores...
Fossil evidence is rare & fragmentary, yet fossil hominids have been found from the Donau to the Aegean Sea to Med.islands to the Rift & S.Africa.
Bavaria is "in the red sea"?
are you really so stupid, DD, that you believe that because there were hominids along the Donau, there could not have been hominids in the Red Sea???
Physical evidence: 4 skeletal fossils in Bavaria of Danuvius at shallow meandering rivulet precisely dated.
Speculation: Red Sea ...?
Sigh. Do you never read what I wrote?
The biology is clear: orangs live in SE.Asia, chimps-gorillas in Africa, H.erectus Flores...
Fossil evidence is rare & fragmentary, yet fossil hominids have been found from the Donau to the Aegean Sea to Med.islands to the Rift & S.Africa.> Bavarian Danuvius proves HPG lived in the Red Sea?
Op woensdag 6 oktober 2021 om 00:46:34 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
Bavaria is "in the red sea"?
are you really so stupid, DD, that you believe that because there were hominids along the Donau, there could not have been hominids in the Red Sea???
Physical evidence: 4 skeletal fossils in Bavaria of Danuvius at shallow meandering rivulet precisely dated.
Speculation: Red Sea ...?
Grow up, little boy, and think a *little*bit.Sigh. Do you never read what I wrote?
The biology is clear: orangs live in SE.Asia, chimps-gorillas in Africa, H.erectus Flores...
Fossil evidence is rare & fragmentary, yet fossil hominids have been found from the Donau to the Aegean Sea to Med.islands to the Rift & S.Africa.> Bavarian Danuvius proves HPG lived in the Red Sea?
Early hominoids lived along the Tethys Ocean + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes... After the split c 15 Ma (Mesop.Seaway closure?):
-Mio-Pliocene pongids lived along the Ind.Ocean + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
-Mio-Pliocene hominids lived along the Med.Sea + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
Waste your own time.
Bavaria is "in the red sea"?
are you really so stupid, DD, that you believe that because there were hominids along the Donau, there could not have been hominids in the Red Sea???
Physical evidence: 4 skeletal fossils in Bavaria of Danuvius at shallow meandering rivulet precisely dated.
Speculation: Red Sea ...?
Grow up, little boy, and think a *little*bit.Sigh. Do you never read what I wrote?
The biology is clear: orangs live in SE.Asia, chimps-gorillas in Africa, H.erectus Flores...
Fossil evidence is rare & fragmentary, yet fossil hominids have been found from the Donau to the Aegean Sea to Med.islands to the Rift & S.Africa.> Bavarian Danuvius proves HPG lived in the Red Sea?
Early hominoids lived along the Tethys Ocean + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
After the split c 15 Ma (Mesop.Seaway closure?):
-Mio-Pliocene pongids lived along the Ind.Ocean + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
-Mio-Pliocene hominids lived along the Med.Sea + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
Waste your own time.Mangroves in Bavaria??
Op woensdag 6 oktober 2021 om 12:21:55 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
My little little boy, you're becoming more+more childish:
don't you know the word "or"??
Bavaria is "in the red sea"?
are you really so stupid, DD, that you believe that because there were hominids along the Donau, there could not have been hominids in the Red Sea???
Physical evidence: 4 skeletal fossils in Bavaria of Danuvius at shallow meandering rivulet precisely dated.
Speculation: Red Sea ...?
Grow up, little boy, and think a *little*bit.Sigh. Do you never read what I wrote?
The biology is clear: orangs live in SE.Asia, chimps-gorillas in Africa, H.erectus Flores...
Fossil evidence is rare & fragmentary, yet fossil hominids have been found from the Donau to the Aegean Sea to Med.islands to the Rift & S.Africa.> Bavarian Danuvius proves HPG lived in the Red Sea?
Early hominoids lived along the Tethys Ocean + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
After the split c 15 Ma (Mesop.Seaway closure?):
-Mio-Pliocene pongids lived along the Ind.Ocean + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
-Mio-Pliocene hominids lived along the Med.Sea + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
Waste your own time.Mangroves in Bavaria??
My little little boy, you're becoming more+more childish:Please cite where you wrote "or". We don't see it. We only see The island of Bavaria in the Red Sea.
don't you know the word "or"??
Bavaria is "in the red sea"?
are you really so stupid, DD, that you believe that because there were hominids along the Donau, there could not have been hominids in the Red Sea???
Physical evidence: 4 skeletal fossils in Bavaria of Danuvius at shallow meandering rivulet precisely dated.
Speculation: Red Sea ...?
Grow up, little boy, and think a *little*bit.Sigh. Do you never read what I wrote?
The biology is clear: orangs live in SE.Asia, chimps-gorillas in Africa, H.erectus Flores...
Fossil evidence is rare & fragmentary, yet fossil hominids have been found from the Donau to the Aegean Sea to Med.islands to the Rift & S.Africa.> Bavarian Danuvius proves HPG lived in the Red Sea?
Early hominoids lived along the Tethys Ocean + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
After the split c 15 Ma (Mesop.Seaway closure?):
-Mio-Pliocene pongids lived along the Ind.Ocean + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
-Mio-Pliocene hominids lived along the Med.Sea + mangroves-bais-rivers-lakes...
Waste your own time.Mangroves in Bavaria??
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