-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
Hylobatids never wade.
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
How I got it:
-- Everyone, including Out of Africa purists, agree that our ancestors were on
the coast: Coastal Dispersal. That means they were exploiting the sea, not stopping at Burger King for a chicken burger.
-- Omega-3s. Seafood is an excellent source, the savanna sucks rotten eggs. With Omega-3s their brains would be just as large as genetics would allow, which means they were in a position to fully exploit any "Bigger Brain" gene mutations.
-- Aquatic Ape provides a means, a mechanism for the dispersal of Homo, as well as an explanation for this dispersal. Humans were everywhere from South Africa to Oceania and they didn't get there by flying.
-- Taken as a whole, it fits our concept of evolution like a glove. We have dispersal, isolation & reconnection all in one model. They lived on the coast, exploiting easily obtained resources before moving on. Occasionally groups would push inland (in reaction to conflict, disease, natural
disaster and even the glacial/interglacial cycle). Once there they adapted to the new environments. Eventually any new adaptations could be shared
with other groups through contact with the remaining coastal population.
Op vrijdag 26 augustus 2022 om 18:42:40 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
How I got it:Yes, that's obvious: everybody agrees & nobody (except a few retarded antelope runners) doubts that Pleistocene Homo dispersal along the coasts & later rivers of S-Asia, Africa & Europe.
-- Everyone, including Out of Africa purists, agree that our ancestors were on
the coast: Coastal Dispersal. That means they were exploiting the sea, not stopping at Burger King for a chicken burger.
-- Omega-3s. Seafood is an excellent source, the savanna sucks rotten eggs. With Omega-3s their brains would be just as large as genetics would allow, which means they were in a position to fully exploit any "Bigger Brain" gene
mutations.
-- Aquatic Ape provides a means, a mechanism for the dispersal of Homo, as well as an explanation for this dispersal. Humans were everywhere from South
Africa to Oceania and they didn't get there by flying.
-- Taken as a whole, it fits our concept of evolution like a glove. We have dispersal, isolation & reconnection all in one model. They lived on the coast, exploiting easily obtained resources before moving on. Occasionally groups would push inland (in reaction to conflict, disease, natural disaster and even the glacial/interglacial cycle). Once there they adapted to
the new environments. Eventually any new adaptations could be shared
with other groups through contact with the remaining coastal population.
But what happened before the Pleistocene?
When did our ancestors become littoral shallow-divers for shellfish? already in the Pliocene??
if not, why only early-Pleistocene? Pleistocene cooling = more abundant shellfish??
And why did the ape ancestors leave or reduce their aquarboreal lifestyle? Pleistocene cooling??
Hylobatids never wade.
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
Hylobatids never wade.
Modern humans are an anomaly. We're not looking for matches
within nature, we're looking for models that explains how we
got so different.
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
Op vrijdag 26 augustus 2022 om 00:35:55 UTC+2 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
-- Primates are arboreal,The wading component of this aquarboreal locomotion was very important: apes differ drastically from monkeys,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
e.g. tail loss is very unexpected in purely arboreal mammals.
Not unlikely Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea were also excellent swimmers (water surface), but so far, I can't see indications they frequently dived.
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
The wading component of this aquarboreal locomotion was very important: apes differ drastically from monkeys,
e.g. tail loss is very unexpected in purely arboreal mammals.
Not unlikely Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea were also excellent swimmers (water surface), but so far, I can't see indications they frequently dived.
Mermaids.
Op zondag 28 augustus 2022 om 23:32:46 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
The wading component of this aquarboreal locomotion was very important: apes differ drastically from monkeys,
e.g. tail loss is very unexpected in purely arboreal mammals.
Not unlikely Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea were also excellent swimmers (water surface), but so far, I can't see indications they frequently dived.
Mermaids.:-) You fully agree: thanks for the empty argument, my little boy.
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
The wading component of this aquarboreal locomotion was very important: apes differ drastically from monkeys,
e.g. tail loss is very unexpected in purely arboreal mammals.
Not unlikely Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea were also excellent swimmers (water surface), but so far, I can't see indications they frequently dived.
Mermaids.
:-) You fully agree: thanks for the empty argument, my little boy.
No-one can argue with your dreams, meine kleine tochtar. Hylobatids do not wade, nor did their ancestors, but monkeys wade and climb.
Op woensdag 31 augustus 2022 om 19:17:09 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:from Proto-Germanic *dokhter. :DDD
-- Primates are arboreal,
-- humans are ex(semi)aquatic (fat, furless, flat feet, linear build, voluntary breathing etc.):
since evolution is gradual, there had to be an intermediate phase of trees+water.
This aquarboreal idea was later confirmed by the discovery of the wading gorillas & still later bonobos & orangs.
The wading component of this aquarboreal locomotion was very important: apes differ drastically from monkeys,
e.g. tail loss is very unexpected in purely arboreal mammals.
Not unlikely Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea were also excellent swimmers (water surface), but so far, I can't see indications they frequently dived.
Mermaids.
:-) You fully agree: thanks for the empty argument, my little boy.
No-one can argue with your dreams, meine kleine tochtar. Hylobatids do not wade, nor did their ancestors, but monkeys wade and climb.Grow up: it's "Tochter".
DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
[...]
"Domeshields," he said, while wiping the spittle from the corner of his mouth.
"Lots of Domeshields. And trout. Don't forget the trout. It's important to not
forget the trout as that's why the Oompa Loompas were in those caves, floating down the subterranean crystalline streams to Australia." He then pooped himself and smiled. "That," he said, "That was a good one."
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