• 17ma turkana ape teeth & climate

    From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 23 09:07:35 2022
    https://theconversation-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/theconversation.com/amp/revelations-from-17-million-year-old-ape-teeth-could-lead-to-new-insights-on-early-human-evolution-187996?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%
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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 23 12:22:15 2022
    Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2022 om 18:07:37 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
    https://theconversation-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/theconversation.com/amp/revelations-from-17-million-year-old-ape-teeth-could-lead-to-new-insights-on-early-human-evolution-187996?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%
    251%24s&aoh=16612704419813&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconversation.com%2Frevelations-from-17-million-year-old-ape-teeth-could-lead-to-new-insights-on-early-human-evolution-187996

    Thanks, DD.

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 25 22:28:04 2022
    DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    https://theconversation-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/theconversation.com/amp/revelations-from-17-million-year-old-ape-teeth-could-lead-to-new-insights-on-early-human-evolution-187996?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%
    251%24s&aoh=16612704419813&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconversation.com%2Frevelations-from-17-million-year-old-ape-teeth-could-lead-to-new-insights-on-early-human-evolution-187996


    Cleaned up link:

    https://theconversation.com/revelations-from-17-million-year-old-ape-teeth-could-lead-to-new-insights-on-early-human-evolution-187996

    The timing and intensity of the seasons shapes life all around us,
    including tool use by birds, the evolutionary diversification of giraffes,
    and the behaviour of our close primate relatives.

    Some scientists suggest early humans and their ancestors also
    evolved due to rapid changes in their environment, but the physical
    evidence to test this idea has been elusive – until now.

    After more than a decade of work, we’ve developed an approach
    that leverages tooth chemistry and growth to extract information
    about seasonal rainfall patterns from the jaws of living and fossil
    primates.
    ...


    https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/08/22/17-million-year-old-ape-teeth-open-windows-into-prehuman-evolution/

    17 Million-Year-Old Teeth Open Windows Into Early Ape and Human Evolution

    An international team of scientists has shown in a new study that
    fossil primate teeth can offer insights into the roles seasonal
    climates and behaviors may have played in human and primate
    evolution.

    The study examined oxygen isotopes in teeth from a 17-million-year-old
    site in northwest Kenya’s Turkana Basin. These included teeth from
    an enigmatic large-bodied ape known as Afropithecus turkanensis.
    The research was just published in the Proceedings of the National
    Academy of Sciences,

    To put the fossils into context, the researchers also measured oxygen
    isotopes in modern primate teeth from across equatorial Africa, and
    analyzed the isotopic signals they produced. The team, led by Daniel
    Green, a postdoctoral scientist at Columbia University’s Climate School,
    and Tanya Smith of Australia’s Griffith University, found that the
    modern oxygen isotopes (natural variants of oxygen that differ by mass) recorded details of rainy seasons and droughts, environmental conditions
    like altitude and vegetation, and variations in primate behavior.
    ...


    https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2123366119
    Fine-scaled climate variation in equatorial Africa revealed by modern
    and fossil primate teeth

    Significance
    Environmental variability may have spurred unique adaptations
    among Miocene apes and later hominins, but this hypothesis has
    been impossible to test on the scale relevant to individual lifespans.
    We establish that oxygen isotope compositions in modern primate
    teeth record annual and semiannual seasonal rainfall patterns
    across a broad range of environments in equatorial Africa. We then
    document annual dry seasons experienced by the large-bodied
    Early Miocene ape Afropithecus turkanensis, which may explain its
    novel dental adaptations and prolonged development. By revealing
    real-time historical and prehistoric environmental variation on a
    near weekly basis, we demonstrate that extraordinary behavioral
    and ecological variability can be recovered from modern and fossil
    African primates.

    Abstract
    Variability in resource availability is hypothesized to be a significant
    driver of primate adaptation and evolution, but most paleoclimate
    proxies cannot recover environmental seasonality on the scale of
    an individual lifespan. Oxygen isotope compositions (δ18O values)
    sampled at high spatial resolution in the dentitions of modern
    African primates (n = 2,352 near weekly measurements from 26
    teeth) track concurrent seasonal precipitation, regional climatic
    patterns, discrete meteorological events, and niche partitioning.
    We leverage these data to contextualize the first δ18O values of
    two 17 Ma Afropithecus turkanensis individuals from Kalodirr,
    Kenya, from which we infer variably bimodal wet seasons,
    supported by rainfall reconstructions in a global Earth system
    model. Afropithecus’ δ18O fluctuations are intermediate in
    magnitude between those measured at high resolution in
    baboons (Papio spp.) living across a gradient of aridity and
    modern forest-dwelling chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes verus). This
    large-bodied Miocene ape consumed seasonally variable food and
    water sources enriched in 18O compared to contemporaneous
    terrestrial fauna (n = 66 fossil specimens). Reliance on fallback
    foods during documented dry seasons potentially contributed to
    novel dental features long considered adaptations to hard-object
    feeding. Developmentally informed microsampling recovers greater
    ecological complexity than conventional isotope sampling; the two
    Miocene apes (n = 248 near weekly measurements) evince as great
    a range of seasonal δ18O variation as more time-averaged bulk
    measurements from 101 eastern African Plio-Pleistocene hominins
    and 42 papionins spanning 4 million y. These results reveal
    unprecedented environmental histories in primate teeth and
    suggest a framework for evaluating climate change and primate
    paleoecology throughout the Cenozoic.

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Fri Aug 26 15:10:58 2022
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    The timing and intensity of the seasons shapes life all around us,
    including tool use by birds

    "Tool" in this context is a noun yet you clearly are referencing a very.

    Hint: With birds dating back before 150 million years ago, show us
    some 85 million year old bird "Tools." Show us 100 million year old
    bird "Tools," or 10 million year old bird "Tools."

    Hint: You can't. Because verbs don't get preserved within the
    archaeology. You have to see action, you have to witness it or it
    just plain doesn't exist.

    This is not at all subtle.

    And the problem, which children can't grasp, is by your confusing
    verbs with nouns you are eliminating any significance to tools. They
    are no longer important. They are no longer a sign of development.
    In fact, nearly their entire history is unknown and unknowable, much
    less a subject of study, because in the half billion years or so since
    the Cambrian Explosion we really only find "Tools" dating back no
    further than a few million years... yet if your misuse were accurate
    they would have to date back HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

    The funny part? I've explained this all before and I can explain it a
    dozen times again and you STILL won't grasp a word of it.

    You can't.




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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to JTEM is so reasonable on Fri Aug 26 20:24:49 2022
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 6:10:59 PM UTC-4, JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    The timing and intensity of the seasons shapes life all around us, including tool use by birds
    "Tool" in this context is a noun yet you clearly are referencing a very.

    Hint: With birds dating back before 150 million years ago, show us
    some 85 million year old bird "Tools." Show us 100 million year old
    bird "Tools," or 10 million year old bird "Tools."

    Hint: You can't. Because verbs don't get preserved within the
    archaeology. You have to see action, you have to witness it or it
    just plain doesn't exist.

    This is not at all subtle.

    And the problem, which children can't grasp, is by your confusing
    verbs with nouns you are eliminating any significance to tools. They
    are no longer important. They are no longer a sign of development.
    In fact, nearly their entire history is unknown and unknowable, much
    less a subject of study, because in the half billion years or so since
    the Cambrian Explosion we really only find "Tools" dating back no
    further than a few million years... yet if your misuse were accurate
    they would have to date back HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

    The funny part? I've explained this all before and I can explain it a
    dozen times again and you STILL won't grasp a word of it.

    You can't.




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    Jermy will never understand what a tool is, a functional extension of the body.

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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 26 22:06:08 2022
    A tool is an object not an action. There are no 20 million year
    old tools. There are 150 million year old birds, and you bird
    brains think birds use tools, but there are no 150 million year
    old tools. Because you're so fucking stupid you can't figure
    out the difference between a verb and a noun.



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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to JTEM is so reasonable on Thu Sep 22 22:37:39 2022
    JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    The timing and intensity of the seasons shapes life all around us,
    including tool use by birds

    "Tool" in this context is a noun yet you clearly are referencing a very.

    Could you repost that in English please? Thanks.

    Perhaps that's why you don't understand the phrase "tool use" which means
    "the use of tools"

    Perhaps your space alien friends can explain it to you.

    Hint: With birds dating back before 150 million years ago, show us
    some 85 million year old bird "Tools." Show us 100 million year old
    bird "Tools," or 10 million year old bird "Tools."

    Hint: You can't. Because verbs don't get preserved within the
    archaeology. You have to see action, you have to witness it or it
    just plain doesn't exist.

    This is not at all subtle.

    And the problem, which children can't grasp, is by your confusing
    verbs with nouns you are eliminating any significance to tools. They
    are no longer important. They are no longer a sign of development.
    In fact, nearly their entire history is unknown and unknowable, much
    less a subject of study, because in the half billion years or so since
    the Cambrian Explosion we really only find "Tools" dating back no
    further than a few million years... yet if your misuse were accurate
    they would have to date back HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

    The funny part? I've explained this all before and I can explain it a
    dozen times again and you STILL won't grasp a word of it.

    You can't.




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  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Thu Sep 22 23:33:10 2022
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Could you repost that in English please? Thanks.

    Said the twit who doesn't know the difference between a verb
    and a noun...

    Perhaps that's why you don't understand the phrase "tool use" which means "the use of tools"

    "Tools" in your sentence are nouns. Plural -- more than one noun -- but a
    noun.

    What you are identifying though is ACTIONS. Not nouns but verbs.

    You must first grasp rudimentary English in order to tackle these distinctions.





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