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  • MSA So. African coastal adaptations

    From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 21 08:52:51 2022
    ABSTRACT
    "New excavations at the Middle Stone Age (MSA) shell midden of Hoedjiespunt 1 (HDP1) on the West Coast of South Africa are shedding light on the evolution of coastal adaptations and MSA innovations. HDP1 dates to the last interglacial and provides a good
    case study for testing models about the importance of marine...
    read more...
    Will

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 21 12:03:18 2022
    Op donderdag 21 juli 2022 om 17:52:52 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

    "New excavations at the Middle Stone Age (MSA) shell midden of Hoedjiespunt 1 (HDP1) on the West Coast of South Africa are shedding light on the evolution of coastal adaptations and MSA innovations. HDP1 dates to the last interglacial and provides a
    good case study for testing models about the importance of marine...

    Yes, thanks, left-over from our ancestors' coastal dispersal, google
    "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 21 15:36:52 2022
    littor...@gmail.com wrote:

    Op donderdag 21 juli 2022 om 17:52:52 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

    "New excavations at the Middle Stone Age (MSA) shell midden of Hoedjiespunt 1 (HDP1) on
    the West Coast of South Africa are shedding light on the evolution of coastal adaptations

    Yes, thanks, left-over from our ancestors' coastal dispersal, google
    "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23628196/

    It's excellent support for "Out of Asia," given that it's some 2 million years younger
    than finds in China/southeast Asia and quite the distance away. Clearly our ancestors were already on the coast, exploiting the sea, *Long* before this site
    was occupied.

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.anthropology.paleo/c/ReYK9jOygu0/m/Ho0jzrgjDQAJ

    In the above I spell it out: The 2 million (plus) hear old tools that they're finding
    in China are base. Meaning, they are latter day technology, tools 2.0 or higher,
    so the actual origins goes back further. And these are inland. The most probable
    scenario is that the founding population originated in Sundaland or vicinity, a splinter group moving inland...

    So we had human ancestors everywhere from southern most Africa to what is
    today Indonesia, everyone agrees that they arrived at these places following the
    coast, and they were reaching these point millions of years ago BUT, somehow the Aquatic Ape phase only took place 300k years ago...

    It's nonsense. All their "Finding" is reinforcement of their own Out of Africa purity.

    But, do you think they'd get published, taken seriously if they did anything else?

    Seriously, if there's one thing EVERY proponent of science, of common sense
    and the facts will tell you: If you advocate Aquatic Ape then you're invisible.






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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to I Envy JTEM on Fri Jul 22 00:12:50 2022
    I Envy JTEM wrote:

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.anthropology.paleo/c/ReYK9jOygu0/m/Ho0jzrgjDQAJ

    In the above I spell it out: The 2 million (plus) hear old tools that they're finding
    in China are base.

    NOT base! The 2 million (plus) year old tools are NOT base. They are second generation AT LEAST.

    so the actual origins goes back further. And these are inland. The most probable
    scenario is that the founding population originated in Sundaland or vicinity, a
    splinter group moving inland...

    They found an inland site with second (or later) generation tools, so the origin
    point had to be elsewhere. The population that gave rise to this group of inland
    tool makers lived elsewhere...




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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 22 14:08:43 2022
    "New excavations at the Middle Stone Age (MSA) shell midden of Hoedjiespunt 1 (HDP1) on the West Coast of South Africa are shedding light on the evolution of coastal adaptations and MSA innovations. HDP1 dates to the last interglacial and provides a
    good case study for testing models about the importance of marine...

    Yes, thanks, left-over from our ancestors' coastal dispersal, google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".

    Mio-Pliocene hominoids were (goolge) "aquarboreal":
    this explains their centrally-placed spine, upright posture, very wide pelvis-thorax-sternum, fused sternum, less lumbar & more sacral vertebrae, tail loss, long limbs + lateral movements etc.
    apparently they spread along Tethys Ocean coasts:
    the Mesopotamian Seaway Closure c 15 Ma split hominids W (e.g. Trachilos BP footprints) & pongids E.
    Med.drought: hominids only survived along the Red Sea?
    The Zanclean Flood 5.4 Ma not only filled the Med, but probably also opened the Red Sea into the Ind.Ocean:
    Pan went right, Homo went left along the Ind.Ocean coasts.
    In SE.Asia (Sunda?) they became littoral divers (early Pleist.?),
    from there: google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Fri Jul 22 18:16:15 2022
    On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 5:08:44 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    "New excavations at the Middle Stone Age (MSA) shell midden of Hoedjiespunt 1 (HDP1) on the West Coast of South Africa are shedding light on the evolution of coastal adaptations and MSA innovations. HDP1 dates to the last interglacial and provides
    a good case study for testing models about the importance of marine...

    Yes, thanks, left-over from our ancestors' coastal dispersal, google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".
    Mio-Pliocene hominoids were (goolge) "aquarboreal":
    this explains their centrally-placed spine, upright posture, very wide pelvis-thorax-sternum, fused sternum, less lumbar & more sacral vertebrae, tail loss, long limbs + lateral movements etc.
    apparently they spread along Tethys Ocean coasts:
    the Mesopotamian Seaway Closure c 15 Ma split hominids W (e.g. Trachilos BP footprints) & pongids E.
    Med.drought: hominids only survived along the Red Sea?
    The Zanclean Flood 5.4 Ma not only filled the Med, but probably also opened the Red Sea into the Ind.Ocean:
    Pan went right, Homo went left along the Ind.Ocean coasts.
    In SE.Asia (Sunda?) they became littoral divers (early Pleist.?),
    from there: google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".
    Claiming brachiation-related features are aquarboreal is nonsense. Crab-eating macaques and brazzas monkeys show that aquarboreal traits are fantasy-based, not biology-based.

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 27 16:02:11 2022
    Op zaterdag 23 juli 2022 om 03:16:16 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
    On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 5:08:44 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    "New excavations at the Middle Stone Age (MSA) shell midden of Hoedjiespunt 1 (HDP1) on the West Coast of South Africa are shedding light on the evolution of coastal adaptations and MSA innovations. HDP1 dates to the last interglacial and
    provides a good case study for testing models about the importance of marine...

    Yes, thanks, left-over from our ancestors' coastal dispersal, google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".
    Mio-Pliocene hominoids were (goolge) "aquarboreal":
    this explains their centrally-placed spine, upright posture, very wide pelvis-thorax-sternum, fused sternum, less lumbar & more sacral vertebrae, tail loss, long limbs + lateral movements etc.
    apparently they spread along Tethys Ocean coasts:
    the Mesopotamian Seaway Closure c 15 Ma split hominids W (e.g. Trachilos BP footprints) & pongids E.
    Med.drought: hominids only survived along the Red Sea?
    The Zanclean Flood 5.4 Ma not only filled the Med, but probably also opened the Red Sea into the Ind.Ocean:
    Pan went right, Homo went left along the Ind.Ocean coasts.
    In SE.Asia (Sunda?) they became littoral divers (early Pleist.?),
    from there: google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo".

    Claiming brachiation-related features are aquarboreal is nonsense. Crab-eating macaques and brazzas monkeys show that aquarboreal traits are fantasy-based, not biology-based.

    :-DDD
    If macaques eat crabs, Hominoidea can't have aquarboreal ancestors??
    DD, you're the most stupid of the kudu runners!

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