• Florida USA: woman killed by a pair of alligators

    From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 17 23:27:37 2022
    https://www.wesh.com/article/woman-killed-alligators-florida-pond/40634392

    Friday night, a woman was attacked and killed by multiple alligators in a Florida
    pond.

    The attack occurred in Englewood and the Florida Fish and Wildlife
    Conservation
    Commission received a call about the incident around 8:15 p.m.

    WBBH reports the woman was identified as Rose Wiegand, a woman in her 80s.

    According to the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, deputies believe
    Wiegand fell
    into a pond located at Boca Royale Golf and Country Club before the
    alligators
    grabbed her as she struggled in the water.

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Sun Jul 17 22:45:21 2022
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    https://www.wesh.com/article/woman-killed-alligators-florida-pond/40634392

    Friday night, a woman was attacked and killed by multiple alligators in a Florida
    pond.

    The attack occurred in Englewood and the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation
    Commission received a call about the incident around 8:15 p.m.

    WBBH reports the woman was identified as Rose Wiegand, a woman in her 80s.

    According to the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, deputies believe
    Wiegand fell
    into a pond located at Boca Royale Golf and Country Club before the alligators
    grabbed her as she struggled in the water.

    Alligators doo not live in the ocean. An Aquatic Ape population, exploiting
    the sea, would be quite safe.

    Moving inland, on the other hand, that same population would fall prey
    to alligators as they sought fresh water sources...

    All shellfish contain water -- sometimes referred to as "Liquor" -- and
    fish contain water in their flesh. It would be salty, particularly the shellfish water, but not as salty as sea water. They could've probably
    gotten by with this, especially after adapting to a high salt diet by
    sweating (losing salt). They also would have at least occasionally
    come across fresh water running into the ocean or this new
    phenomenon called "Rain."


    ...in a related manner, we've had some discussions in the past
    about how those iconic acheulean hand axe, the tear drop shaped
    ones in particular, may have been a primitive form of anti croc or
    alligator landmine. Many are found prone, so an animal dragging
    itself along the ground might've stepped on or slid on top of them.

    ...another theory was that they were encased in some form of
    bait, maybe an animal carcass, so the predator would swallow it
    & cut up their insides...






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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 18 01:52:29 2022
    Op maandag 18 juli 2022 om 07:45:22 UTC+2 schreef I Envy JTEM:

    Human kidney anatomy suggests an early-Pleistocene coastal phase, followed by a late-Pleistocene freshwaterside phase.
    From my forthcoming book:
    -our kidneys resemble those of swine & manatees,
    -our fetal kidneys resemble those of marine mammals.
    Nieren(kidneys)
    Onze nieren kunnen heel verdunde(diluted) urine maken, maar geen(no) erg geconcentreerde. Bij zoogdieren gaat de maximum urineconcentratie van dieren met overvloedig zoet(fresh) water over zeedieren naar land- en woestijn(desert)bewoners (beaver ~600
    mOsmol/l, pig ~1100, human ~1400, visetende dolfijn ~1700, inktvis-etende dolfijn ~1800, horse ~1900, kat ~3200, kangoeroerat ~4600). Onze kwistige(lavish) nieren pleiten voor een sappig(e.g.fruit) dieet in een zoet- of misschien brakwatermilieu bij de
    oer-sapiens (~0,3 Ma), en tegen(against) een droge-savanne-oorsprong. Dat klopt met ons beperkt(low) drinkvermogen, overvloedig (zout) zweten, en grote en frequente waterbehoefte (bij 3 % watertekort zijn wij ernstig ziek – kamelen, ezels en
    struisvogels pas bij 20 %).
    De afvoergangen die de urine concentreren, komen bij primaten en de meeste landzoogdieren per nier samen in éen heel lange papil. Maar bij ons zijn die afvoergangen zo kort dat ze apart uitmonden in de nierkelk (~12 papillen/nier). Zo’n 'onvolledige
    nieropsplitsing' is er ook bij zwijnen en lamantijnen, en de papil is ultra-kort of ontbreekt bij zoetwaterdieren (bever, beverrat, watermol).
    De meeste zeezoogdieren echter hebben hun nieren volledig opgesplitst in renculi (‘niertjes’). Dat is ook zo bij menselijke fetussen, maar kort na de geboorte wordt ons nieroppervlak glad.

    IOW, people who believe we descend from savanna dwellers are just stupid.



    Alligators do not live in the ocean. An Aquatic Ape population, exploiting the sea, would be quite safe.

    Moving inland, on the other hand, that same population would fall prey
    to alligators as they sought fresh water sources...

    All shellfish contain water -- sometimes referred to as "Liquor" -- and
    fish contain water in their flesh. It would be salty, particularly the shellfish water, but not as salty as sea water. They could've probably gotten by with this, especially after adapting to a high salt diet by sweating (losing salt). They also would have at least occasionally
    come across fresh water running into the ocean or this new
    phenomenon called "Rain."

    ...in a related manner, we've had some discussions in the past
    about how those iconic acheulean hand axe, the tear drop shaped
    ones in particular, may have been a primitive form of anti croc or
    alligator landmine. Many are found prone, so an animal dragging
    itself along the ground might've stepped on or slid on top of them.

    ...another theory was that they were encased in some form of
    bait, maybe an animal carcass, so the predator would swallow it
    & cut up their insides...

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Mon Jul 18 05:24:06 2022
    On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:27:39 AM UTC-4, Primum Sapienti wrote:
    https://www.wesh.com/article/woman-killed-alligators-florida-pond/40634392

    Friday night, a woman was attacked and killed by multiple alligators in a Florida
    pond.

    The attack occurred in Englewood and the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation
    Commission received a call about the incident around 8:15 p.m.

    WBBH reports the woman was identified as Rose Wiegand, a woman in her 80s.

    According to the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, deputies believe
    Wiegand fell
    into a pond located at Boca Royale Golf and Country Club before the alligators
    grabbed her as she struggled in the water.

    Gators, crocs, sharks, pythons, bears, cougars in Florida

    Swimming in the Fl keys, femur bit by shark

    Wading for scallops on Fl coast, bit by shark

    5 in Long Island NY bit by shark

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/5749681/shark-attack-map-reveals-predator-hotspots/

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Mon Jul 18 06:28:12 2022
    On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:27:39 AM UTC-4, Primum Sapienti wrote:
    https://www.wesh.com/article/woman-killed-alligators-florida-pond/40634392

    Friday night, a woman was attacked and killed by multiple alligators in a Florida
    pond.

    The attack occurred in Englewood and the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation
    Commission received a call about the incident around 8:15 p.m.

    WBBH reports the woman was identified as Rose Wiegand, a woman in her 80s.

    According to the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, deputies believe
    Wiegand fell
    into a pond located at Boca Royale Golf and Country Club before the alligators
    grabbed her as she struggled in the water.

    According to MV, wolves and humans partnered to hunt at shores. So one alligator has domesticated another to form a partnership to hunt at shores.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 18 06:25:55 2022
    On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 4:52:30 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op maandag 18 juli 2022 om 07:45:22 UTC+2 schreef I Envy JTEM:

    Human kidney anatomy suggests an early-Pleistocene coastal phase, followed by a late-Pleistocene freshwaterside phase.
    From my forthcoming book:

    -our kidneys resemble those of swine & manatees,

    Forest & Freshwater fauna

    -our fetal kidneys resemble those of marine mammals.

    Himalayan bears (cattle?)
    Your Inner Fish

    Nieren(kidneys)
    Onze nieren kunnen heel verdunde(diluted) urine maken, maar geen(no) erg geconcentreerde. Bij zoogdieren gaat de maximum urineconcentratie van dieren met overvloedig zoet(fresh) water over zeedieren naar land- en woestijn(desert)bewoners (beaver ~600
    mOsmol/l, pig ~1100, human ~1400, visetende dolfijn ~1700, inktvis-etende dolfijn ~1800, horse ~1900, kat ~3200, kangoeroerat ~4600). Onze kwistige(lavish) nieren pleiten voor een sappig(e.g.fruit) dieet in een zoet- of misschien brakwatermilieu bij de
    oer-sapiens (~0,3 Ma), en tegen(against) een droge-savanne-oorsprong. Dat klopt met ons beperkt(low) drinkvermogen, overvloedig (zout) zweten, en grote en frequente waterbehoefte (bij 3 % watertekort zijn wij ernstig ziek – kamelen, ezels en
    struisvogels pas bij 20 %).
    De afvoergangen die de urine concentreren, komen bij primaten en de meeste landzoogdieren per nier samen in éen heel lange papil. Maar bij ons zijn die afvoergangen zo kort dat ze apart uitmonden in de nierkelk (~12 papillen/nier). Zo’n 'onvolledige
    nieropsplitsing' is er ook bij zwijnen en lamantijnen, en de papil is ultra-kort of ontbreekt bij zoetwaterdieren (bever, beverrat, watermol).
    De meeste zeezoogdieren echter hebben hun nieren volledig opgesplitst in renculi (‘niertjes’). Dat is ook zo bij menselijke fetussen, maar kort na de geboorte wordt ons nieroppervlak glad.

    IOW, people who believe we descend from savanna dwellers are just stupid.

    Or mountain beavers!
    (More stupid!!)

    Black Sea & Rift have had freshwater and saltwater periods.




    Alligators do not live in the ocean. An Aquatic Ape population, exploiting the sea, would be quite safe.

    Moving inland, on the other hand, that same population would fall prey
    to alligators as they sought fresh water sources...

    All shellfish contain water -- sometimes referred to as "Liquor" -- and fish contain water in their flesh. It would be salty, particularly the shellfish water, but not as salty as sea water. They could've probably gotten by with this, especially after adapting to a high salt diet by sweating (losing salt). They also would have at least occasionally
    come across fresh water running into the ocean or this new
    phenomenon called "Rain."

    ...in a related manner, we've had some discussions in the past
    about how those iconic acheulean hand axe, the tear drop shaped
    ones in particular, may have been a primitive form of anti croc or alligator landmine. Many are found prone, so an animal dragging
    itself along the ground might've stepped on or slid on top of them.

    ...another theory was that they were encased in some form of
    bait, maybe an animal carcass, so the predator would swallow it
    & cut up their insides...

    Dr jermy...

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  • From Pandora@21:1/5 to jtem01@gmail.com on Mon Jul 18 15:39:55 2022
    On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 22:45:21 -0700 (PDT), I Envy JTEM
    <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    https://www.wesh.com/article/woman-killed-alligators-florida-pond/40634392 >>
    Friday night, a woman was attacked and killed by multiple alligators in a
    Florida
    pond.

    The attack occurred in Englewood and the Florida Fish and Wildlife
    Conservation
    Commission received a call about the incident around 8:15 p.m.

    WBBH reports the woman was identified as Rose Wiegand, a woman in her 80s. >>
    According to the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, deputies believe
    Wiegand fell
    into a pond located at Boca Royale Golf and Country Club before the
    alligators
    grabbed her as she struggled in the water.

    Alligators doo not live in the ocean. An Aquatic Ape population, exploiting >the sea, would be quite safe.

    In the Indo-Pacific region they would be well advised to be on the
    alert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltwater_crocodile

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to Pandora on Mon Jul 18 14:40:34 2022
    Pandora wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 22:45:21 -0700 (PDT), I Envy JTEM
    <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    https://www.wesh.com/article/woman-killed-alligators-florida-pond/40634392 >>>
    Friday night, a woman was attacked and killed by multiple alligators in a >>> Florida
    pond.

    The attack occurred in Englewood and the Florida Fish and Wildlife
    Conservation
    Commission received a call about the incident around 8:15 p.m.

    WBBH reports the woman was identified as Rose Wiegand, a woman in her 80s. >>>
    According to the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, deputies believe
    Wiegand fell
    into a pond located at Boca Royale Golf and Country Club before the
    alligators
    grabbed her as she struggled in the water.

    Alligators doo not live in the ocean. An Aquatic Ape population, exploiting >> the sea, would be quite safe.

    In the Indo-Pacific region they would be well advised to be on the
    alert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltwater_crocodile

    Are the AAers trying to claim there were no hominids in the interior?

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Mon Jul 18 20:43:34 2022
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Are the AAers trying to claim there were no hominids in the interior?

    Google "Fallacious Argument."

    Start with "Straw Man."

    Ask someone to help with the big words.





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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 18 23:09:52 2022
    somebody:

    Are the AAers trying to claim there were no hominids in the interior?

    -what are AAers??
    -hominids = Gorilla, Homo, Pan,
    -interior = + rivers & lakes.

    IOW, how stupid can you be??
    Keep running after your kudu in the interio, my boy.

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