• neandertal lifestyle

    From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 10 14:15:42 2022
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sun Jul 10 18:39:21 2022
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 5:15:43 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639


    In the northern part of the Adriatic, however, there are some sand banks where Callista clams can be collected at depths of between half a metre to one metre. In this case, the clams could be caught just by wading.

    Neanderthals suffered from a medical condition called "surfer's ear".

    This condition is characterised by abnormal bony growths that appear in the ear canal. It's often seen in people who take part in aquatic sports in cold climates, but it can occur simply because of repeated exposure to cold, wet weather.

    At the time the paper was released, there were suggestions Neanderthals could have got it from sleeping on chilly, damp cave floors.

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 10 23:16:17 2022
    DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 5:15:43 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639


    In the northern part of the Adriatic, however, there are some sand banks where Callista clams can be collected at depths of between half a metre to one metre. In this case, the clams could be caught just by wading.

    Neanderthals suffered from a medical condition called "surfer's ear".

    This condition is characterised by abnormal bony growths that appear in the ear canal. It's often seen in people who take part in aquatic sports in cold climates, but it can occur simply because of repeated exposure to cold, wet weather.

    At the time the paper was released, there were suggestions Neanderthals could have got it from sleeping on chilly, damp cave floors.


    There are indeed other causes for the condition.

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Sun Jul 10 22:35:56 2022
    Primum Sapienti wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46988459

    This is just incredibly stupid -- absolutely brain dead.

    The throwing spears appear to date back up to 400,000 years
    ago, the ones they mention aren't the only evidence in
    existence, they weren't Neanderthals and these weapons
    disappear from the archaeological record for hundreds of
    thousands of years.

    "Thrusting spears" is not French for "Run up to an animal &
    stab it," the way these idiots describe it.

    One word: Ambush hunting.

    And, yes, I am aware that it's two words but, let's be honest
    here, if anyone thinks 300 to 400 thousand years ago makes
    it Neanderthal then they're not very good with numbers
    anyway.

    They'll never notice.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-37904-w

    The fact that throwing spears vanish for an extremely long
    time, and speculation on the causes and what replaced them,
    has been dealt with in this group many times, over a period
    of many years.

    Searching on JTEM and "throwing spears" on the Google
    archive I was able to find 49 threads going back 12 years,
    and quite frankly the Google archive sucks. There's likely a
    great deal more. Limiting my search simply to "throwing
    spears" I found 94 threads in this one group...

    Introducing ideas while deliberately ignoring arguments is
    a religious act. It's how one protects dogma, not a means
    to advance knowledge.

    Being unaware of what has long since transpired, and/or
    unwilling to account for it, is not impressive. At all. No,
    not in the slightest.





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    https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/689330400963723264

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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sun Jul 10 23:16:33 2022
  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 11 06:03:25 2022
    Op maandag 11 juli 2022 om 14:40:41 UTC+2 schreef littor...@gmail.com:

    Neandertals
    -ear exostoses
    -pachyosteosclerosis
    -huge brain
    =diving


    My "reconstruction" of a diving ancestor (Med.Hypoth.1985) was very simple:
    - I used what we know of erectus, unknown parts were of neandertals: platycephaly, prognathism, for.magnum a bit more posteriorly, shorter tibias etc.
    - lying on his belly + head turned rostrally (= upwards in standing humans)
    - nose, beard, moustache & baldness as in present-day male:
    the result was astonishingly perfectly streamlined.

    No doubt our most-aquatic ancestor (+-always diving, even sleeping back-floating amid kelp??) were erectus-like:
    probably early-Pleistocene & (sub)tropical: Ind.Ocean coast?
    What was the effect of the Ice Ages?? Did they dive more during Glacials? or during Interglacials?

    Neandertals still dived frequently, but only parttime, I'd think: parttime wading? sleeping on land??
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 11 05:40:40 2022
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51128639 > >

    There are indeed other causes for the condition.

    :-DDD keep running after your kudu, my boy


    Neandertals
    -ear exostoses
    -pachyosteosclerosis
    -huge brain

    Only incredible imbeciles believe neandertals did not dive frequently.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 11 11:28:50 2022
    On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 9:03:27 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op maandag 11 juli 2022 om 14:40:41 UTC+2 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
    Neandertals
    -ear exostoses
    -pachyosteosclerosis
    -huge brain
    =diving


    My "reconstruction" of a diving ancestor (Med.Hypoth.1985) was very simple:
    - I used what we know of erectus, unknown parts were of neandertals: platycephaly, prognathism, for.magnum a bit more posteriorly, shorter tibias etc.
    - lying on his belly + head turned rostrally (= upwards in standing humans)
    - nose, beard, moustache & baldness as in present-day male:
    the result was astonishingly perfectly streamlined.

    Traits seen in many new world arboreal monkeys.
    Did they swim the Atlantic ocean?

    No doubt our most-aquatic ancestor (+-always diving, even sleeping back-floating amid kelp??) were erectus-like:
    probably early-Pleistocene & (sub)tropical: Ind.Ocean coast?
    What was the effect of the Ice Ages?? Did they dive more during Glacials? or during Interglacials?

    Neandertals still dived frequently, but only parttime, I'd think: parttime wading? sleeping on land??
    https://www.monkeys/news/science-environment-51128639

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 11 13:29:49 2022
    Op maandag 11 juli 2022 om 20:28:52 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:


    Neandertals had
    -ear exostoses
    -pachyosteosclerosis
    -huge brain
    =diving
    My "reconstruction" of a diving ancestor (Med.Hypoth.1985) was very simple: - I used what we know of erectus, unknown parts were of neandertals: platycephaly, prognathism, for.magnum a bit more posteriorly, shorter tibias etc.
    - lying on his belly + head turned rostrally (= upwards in standing humans) - nose, beard, moustache & baldness as in present-day male:
    the result was astonishingly perfectly streamlined.

    Traits seen in many new world arboreal monkeys.

    :-DDD I knew you were stupid, but not that stupid... https://www.monkeys/news/science-environment-51128639

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 11 18:26:39 2022
    On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 4:29:50 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op maandag 11 juli 2022 om 20:28:52 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:


    Neandertals had
    -ear exostoses
    -pachyosteosclerosis
    -huge brain
    =diving
    My "reconstruction" of a diving ancestor (Med.Hypoth.1985) was very simple:
    - I used what we know of erectus, unknown parts were of neandertals: platycephaly, prognathism, for.magnum a bit more posteriorly, shorter tibias etc.
    - lying on his belly + head turned rostrally (= upwards in standing humans)
    - nose, beard, moustache & baldness as in present-day male:
    the result was astonishingly perfectly streamlined.

    Traits seen in many new world arboreal monkeys.
    :-DDD I knew you were stupid, but not that stupid... https://www.monkeys/news/science-environment-51128639
    Your cite is dysfunctional, like your mermaid nonsense.l

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