https://cafemom.com/news/josy-peukert-freebirth-pacific-ocean

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 5:36:48 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:

https://cafemom.com/news/josy-peukert-freebirth-pacific-ocean

1 in 8,000,000,000.

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On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:36:46 -0700 (PDT), "littor...@gmail.com" <littoral.homo@gmail.com> wrote:

https://cafemom.com/news/josy-peukert-freebirth-pacific-ocean

Faith can make people do strange things.

"As you�d expect, the birth is proving to be controversial.

Commenters online were equal parts dumbfounded, grossed out, and
concerned for the logistics of the delivery. Many asked if it is safe
for the baby to be exposed to saltwater, while others noted that the
ocean is teeming with critters.

"Legit question � wouldn't all the blood attract sharks?" one Twitter
user wondered.

"There is so many parasites in the water, like this don�t make sense,"
said another."

And don't try this when the sea is only 10 degrees Celsius.

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Op vrijdag 17 juni 2022 om 03:53:57 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

https://cafemom.com/news/josy-peukert-freebirth-pacific-ocean

1 in 8,000,000,000.

:-)
- underestimation
- never heard of water-births?
- nobody say we're aquatic

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Op vrijdag 17 juni 2022 om 11:58:24 UTC+2 schreef Pandora:

https://cafemom.com/news/josy-peukert-freebirth-pacific-ocean

Faith can make people do strange things.

Yes, indeed: idiotic kudu running believers keep running after their kudus.

Ever heard of phylogenetic inertia? rudiments?
Nobody says we're aquatic,
but that human water-births are "easy" (possibly safer & earsier than traditional deliveries) can't be explained by savanna dwelling.

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littor...@gmail.com wrote:

https://cafemom.com/news/josy-peukert-freebirth-pacific-ocean

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5142254/
Pregnancy at high altitude in the Andes leads to increased total vessel
density in healthy newborns

"Fifty-three healthy term newborns in Puno, Peru (3,840 m) were compared
with sea-level controls. "

3840 meters!

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Op zaterdag 25 juni 2022 om 07:53:57 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:

https://cafemom.com/news/josy-peukert-freebirth-pacific-ocean

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5142254/
Pregnancy at high altitude in the Andes leads to increased total vessel density in healthy newborns
"Fifty-three healthy term newborns in Puno, Peru (3,840 m) were compared
with sea-level controls. "

3840 meters! Yes, thanks my boy:
- diving = less O2,
- high altitude = less O2.
Yes, only incredible idiots believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after kudus.
:-DDD

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Primum Sapienti wrote:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5142254/
Pregnancy at high altitude in the Andes leads to increased total vessel density in healthy newborns

"Fifty-three healthy term newborns in Puno, Peru (3,840 m) were compared
with sea-level controls. "

3840 meters!

Lord knows you're not bright so I'll break this down for you and later I can humiliate you for STILL not getting it...

These are not randomly chosen new borns you are referencing. They weren't
born at high altitudes, they were conceived at high altitudes within women
who were conceived, born, raised & lived within high altitudes. In other words, the babies would not necessarily survive if you took random-pregnancy from Miami or Amsterdam and threw them up into the Andes to give birth...

So your example is EXTREMELY different from an apparent vestigial water-birth ability.

Not the same thing at all. The one does not relate to the other.

But, given your now legendary lack of reading comprehension to your inability to deconstruct a problem, I posses no hope of you ever grasping let alone correcting your mistake,.

Kisses.





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I Envy JTEM wrote:

Primum Sapienti wrote:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5142254/
Pregnancy at high altitude in the Andes leads to increased total vessel
density in healthy newborns

"Fifty-three healthy term newborns in Puno, Peru (3,840 m) were compared
with sea-level controls. "

3840 meters!

Lord knows you're not bright so I'll break this down for you and later I can humiliate you for STILL not getting it...

These are not randomly chosen new borns you are referencing. They weren't born at high altitudes, they were conceived at high altitudes within women who were conceived, born, raised & lived within high altitudes. In other words,
the babies would not necessarily survive if you took random-pregnancy from Miami or Amsterdam and threw them up into the Andes to give birth...

"Fifty-three healthy term newborns in Puno, Peru (3,840 m) were compared
with sea-level
controls. "

"This study demonstrates that microvascular vessel density in neonates
born to mothers
living at high altitude is higher than that in neonates born at sea level."

It is estimated that in the South American Andes over 30 million people,
most of them
belonging to the Quechua or Aymara population and termed here “Andean,” permanently
live above 2,500 m (8,200 ft), defined as high altitude (2, 10). At high altitude, the
environmental conditions are extreme, including dramatic temperature
changes and low
atmospheric pressure leading to hypobaric hypoxia. The consequences of
this are often
exacerbated by low socio-economic status and negatively impact the health
of infants (46).
Of note, people living at high altitude not only show genetic adaptation
but also plasticity in development in response to hypoxia (1, 17). Despite
the harsh conditions at the high
altitudes of the Andes, most fetuses develop well and are delivered at
term (31). "

So your example is EXTREMELY different from an apparent vestigial water-birth ability.

Not the same thing at all. The one does not relate to the other.

But, given your now legendary lack of reading comprehension to your inability to deconstruct a problem, I posses no hope of you ever grasping let alone correcting your mistake,.

Kisses.

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On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 12:01:29 AM UTC-4, Primum Sapienti wrote:

I Envy JTEM wrote:

Primum Sapienti wrote:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5142254/
Pregnancy at high altitude in the Andes leads to increased total vessel >> density in healthy newborns

"Fifty-three healthy term newborns in Puno, Peru (3,840 m) were compared >> with sea-level controls. "

3840 meters!

Lord knows you're not bright so I'll break this down for you and later I can
humiliate you for STILL not getting it...

These are not randomly chosen new borns you are referencing. They weren't born at high altitudes, they were conceived at high altitudes within women who were conceived, born, raised & lived within high altitudes. In other words,
the babies would not necessarily survive if you took random-pregnancy from Miami or Amsterdam and threw them up into the Andes to give birth...

"Fifty-three healthy term newborns in Puno, Peru (3,840 m) were compared with sea-level
controls. "
"This study demonstrates that microvascular vessel density in neonates
born to mothers
living at high altitude is higher than that in neonates born at sea level."

It is estimated that in the South American Andes over 30 million people, most of them
belonging to the Quechua or Aymara population and termed here “Andean,” permanently
live above 2,500 m (8,200 ft), defined as high altitude (2, 10). At high altitude, the
environmental conditions are extreme, including dramatic temperature
changes and low
atmospheric pressure leading to hypobaric hypoxia. The consequences of
this are often
exacerbated by low socio-economic status and negatively impact the health
of infants (46).
Of note, people living at high altitude not only show genetic adaptation
but also plasticity in development in response to hypoxia (1, 17). Despite the harsh conditions at the high
altitudes of the Andes, most fetuses develop well and are delivered at
term (31). "

So your example is EXTREMELY different from an apparent vestigial water-birth
ability.

Not the same thing at all. The one does not relate to the other.

But, given your now legendary lack of reading comprehension to your inability
to deconstruct a problem, I posses no hope of you ever grasping let alone correcting your mistake,.

Kisses.

53 vs 1. Kicks butt.

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littor...@gmail.com wrote:

Op zaterdag 25 juni 2022 om 07:53:57 UTC+2 schreef Primum Sapienti:

https://cafemom.com/news/josy-peukert-freebirth-pacific-ocean

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5142254/
Pregnancy at high altitude in the Andes leads to increased total vessel
density in healthy newborns
"Fifty-three healthy term newborns in Puno, Peru (3,840 m) were compared
with sea-level controls. "

3840 meters! Yes, thanks my boy:
- diving = less O2,
- high altitude = less O2.
Yes, only incredible idiots believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after kudus.
:-DDD

No snorkels!

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DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 5:36:48 PM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:

https://cafemom.com/news/josy-peukert-freebirth-pacific-ocean

1 in 8,000,000,000.

:=}}

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