https://youtu.be/ZtEt-S7wKmg

I think it's way too long, filled with a lot of speculation
and not information, but thankfully you don't have to
get very far into it:

Otzi the Iceman had a very PRIMITIVE kit!

https://www.iceman.it/en/clothing/

His "Cape" was made out of grass.

His hat was sewn so it may seem not quite that primitive
except...

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/found-the-worlds-oldest-sewing-needle

He didn't have pants, he had animal skin leggings. Um,
certainly even Neanderthals would have had the
"Technology" to wrap some animal skins around their
legs & tie them with... with... anything.

Maybe they had rope/twine, maybe animal sinew, strips
of skin... vines...

His "Shoes?"

There was like a twine netting holding in grass for
insulation against the snow, and covered to whatever
extant in leather.

It's entirely possible that either these shoes were meant
exclusively for winter/cold periods, and either something
else was used for warmer periods or nothing at all.

Alternatively, they were a "One Size Fits All" deal, with the
grass stuffed webbing used to "Fill out" the shoes to fit
whatever sized foot you have.

QUESTION:

As primitive as his wardrobe was, what if any of it might've
stretched back to the Neanderthals or even Heidelberg man?




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On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 10:31:35 PM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:

https://youtu.be/ZtEt-S7wKmg

I think it's way too long, filled with a lot of speculation
and not information, but thankfully you don't have to
get very far into it:

Otzi the Iceman had a very PRIMITIVE kit!

https://www.iceman.it/en/clothing/

His "Cape" was made out of grass.

His hat was sewn so it may seem not quite that primitive
except...

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/found-the-worlds-oldest-sewing-needle

He didn't have pants, he had animal skin leggings. Um,
certainly even Neanderthals would have had the
"Technology" to wrap some animal skins around their
legs & tie them with... with... anything.

Maybe they had rope/twine, maybe animal sinew, strips
of skin... vines...

His "Shoes?"

There was like a twine netting holding in grass for
insulation against the snow, and covered to whatever
extant in leather.

It's entirely possible that either these shoes were meant
exclusively for winter/cold periods, and either something
else was used for warmer periods or nothing at all.

Alternatively, they were a "One Size Fits All" deal, with the
grass stuffed webbing used to "Fill out" the shoes to fit
whatever sized foot you have.

QUESTION:

As primitive as his wardrobe was, what if any of it might've
stretched back to the Neanderthals or even Heidelberg man?

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/684780474311327744

Grass capes still worn in Korea.
Denisova cave had green jade bracelet, ivory headband, bird bone needle, ostrich eggshell beads (no ostrich in Siberia??) all linked to Denisovans.

http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/neanderthal-womans-walk-of-love-some-90000-years-ago-between-two-caves-106-km-apart/

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On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 4:59:39 PM UTC-4, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 10:31:35 PM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:

https://youtu.be/ZtEt-S7wKmg

I think it's way too long, filled with a lot of speculation
and not information, but thankfully you don't have to
get very far into it:

Otzi the Iceman had a very PRIMITIVE kit!

https://www.iceman.it/en/clothing/

His "Cape" was made out of grass.

His hat was sewn so it may seem not quite that primitive
except...

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/found-the-worlds-oldest-sewing-needle

He didn't have pants, he had animal skin leggings. Um,
certainly even Neanderthals would have had the
"Technology" to wrap some animal skins around their
legs & tie them with... with... anything.

Maybe they had rope/twine, maybe animal sinew, strips
of skin... vines...

His "Shoes?"

There was like a twine netting holding in grass for
insulation against the snow, and covered to whatever
extant in leather.

It's entirely possible that either these shoes were meant
exclusively for winter/cold periods, and either something
else was used for warmer periods or nothing at all.

Alternatively, they were a "One Size Fits All" deal, with the
grass stuffed webbing used to "Fill out" the shoes to fit
whatever sized foot you have.

QUESTION:

As primitive as his wardrobe was, what if any of it might've
stretched back to the Neanderthals or even Heidelberg man?

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/684780474311327744

Grass capes still worn in Korea.
Denisova cave had green jade bracelet, ivory headband, bird bone needle, ostrich eggshell beads (no ostrich in Siberia??) all linked to Denisovans.

http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/neanderthal-womans-walk-of-love-some-90000-years-ago-between-two-caves-106-km-apart/

The earliest fossils from this genus are from the early Miocene (20–25 mya [million years ago]) and are from Africa, so it is proposed that they originated there. Then by the middle to late Miocene (5–13 mya) they had spread to Eurasia.[7] By about
12 mya they had evolved into the larger size of which we are familiar. By this time they had spread to Mongolia and later southern Africa.[8] While the relationship of the African fossil species is comparatively straightforward, many Asian species of
ostrich have been described from fragmentary remains, and their interrelationships and how they relate to the African ostriches are confusing. In China, ostriches are known to have become extinct only around or even after the end of the last ice age;
images of ostriches have been found there on prehistoric pottery and petroglyphs.[9][10][11]

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DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

The earliest fossils from this genus are from the early Miocene (20–25 mya [million years ago])

Not in this universe.

Then by the middle to late Miocene (5–13 mya) they had spread to Eurasia.

Grass skirts?





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