• Missing chunk of brain -- didn't matter

    From Paul Crowley@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 2 09:11:58 2022
    https://www.wired.com/story/she-was-missing-a-chunk-of-her-brain-it-didnt-matter/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

    Human brains are extraordinarily large.
    Up to ~ 2.5 ma hominin brains were
    roughly in line with those of other
    primates. They began to increase in
    size about 2.5 ma with the inception
    of ice-ages. But that increase was not
    for any extra problem-solving capacity
    nor for better memory nor intellectual
    capacity. Brains of half that size can
    perform as well.

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Paul Crowley on Mon May 2 18:13:01 2022
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:11:59 PM UTC-4, Paul Crowley wrote:

    https://www.wired.com/story/she-was-missing-a-chunk-of-her-brain-it-didnt-matter/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

    Human brains are extraordinarily large.
    Up to ~ 2.5 ma hominin brains were
    roughly in line with those of other
    primates. They began to increase in
    size about 2.5 ma with the inception
    of ice-ages. But that increase was not
    for any extra problem-solving capacity
    nor for better memory nor intellectual
    capacity. Brains of half that size can
    perform as well.

    We know why they grew bigger brains: They changed to a diet rich
    in brain-building Omega-3s.




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  • From Mario Petrinovic@21:1/5 to Paul Crowley on Tue May 3 02:54:23 2022
    On 2.5.2022. 18:11, Paul Crowley wrote:
    https://www.wired.com/story/she-was-missing-a-chunk-of-her-brain-it-didnt-matter/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

    Human brains are extraordinarily large.
    Up to ~ 2.5 ma hominin brains were
    roughly in line with those of other
    primates. They began to increase in
    size about 2.5 ma with the inception
    of ice-ages. But that increase was not
    for any extra problem-solving capacity
    nor for better memory nor intellectual
    capacity. Brains of half that size can
    perform as well.

    Lol, bravo.
    Of course, this isn't scientifically relevant because n = 1. I mean,
    how can some sane person, with a full working brain say such a stupid
    thing. Yet, the science is stupid, what can you do, lol.

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  • From Mario Petrinovic@21:1/5 to Mario Petrinovic on Tue May 3 03:58:36 2022
    On 3.5.2022. 3:56, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 3.5.2022. 3:13, I Envy JTEM wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:11:59 PM UTC-4, Paul Crowley wrote:

    https://www.wired.com/story/she-was-missing-a-chunk-of-her-brain-it-didnt-matter/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB


    Human brains are extraordinarily large.
    Up to ~ 2.5 ma hominin brains were
    roughly in line with those of other
    primates. They began to increase in
    size about 2.5 ma with the inception
    of ice-ages. But that increase was not
    for any extra problem-solving capacity
    nor for better memory nor intellectual
    capacity. Brains of half that size can
    perform as well.

    We know why they grew bigger brains:  They changed to a diet rich
    in brain-building Omega-3s.

            Shouldn't this be for bigger stomach? I mean, I would equal brain to stomach just like that. Do you think brain is just like a stomach?
            So, what if I eat McDonalds, will this enlarge my left ear?

    Oops, I meant "I *wouldn't* equal brain to stomach..."

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  • From Mario Petrinovic@21:1/5 to I Envy JTEM on Tue May 3 03:56:49 2022
    On 3.5.2022. 3:13, I Envy JTEM wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:11:59 PM UTC-4, Paul Crowley wrote:

    https://www.wired.com/story/she-was-missing-a-chunk-of-her-brain-it-didnt-matter/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

    Human brains are extraordinarily large.
    Up to ~ 2.5 ma hominin brains were
    roughly in line with those of other
    primates. They began to increase in
    size about 2.5 ma with the inception
    of ice-ages. But that increase was not
    for any extra problem-solving capacity
    nor for better memory nor intellectual
    capacity. Brains of half that size can
    perform as well.

    We know why they grew bigger brains: They changed to a diet rich
    in brain-building Omega-3s.

    Shouldn't this be for bigger stomach? I mean, I would equal brain to
    stomach just like that. Do you think brain is just like a stomach?
    So, what if I eat McDonalds, will this enlarge my left ear?

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Mario Petrinovic on Mon May 2 22:57:38 2022
    Mario Petrinovic wrote:

    Shouldn't this be for bigger stomach? I mean, I would equal brain to
    stomach just like that. Do you think brain is just like a stomach?
    So, what if I eat McDonalds, will this enlarge my left ear?

    Do the Google on the human brain & Omega-3s, what percentage is
    comprised of DHA, specifically.

    My switching to a diet far richer in Omega-3s than their terrestrial counterparts, their brains were assured to grow to the maximum
    extant of their genetic capacity -- whatever that would allow. From
    there, any mutation that allowed for even bigger brains, and whatever advantages that conferred, was going to be immediately exploited...

    You can play dumb all the live long day but you are never ever going
    to change the facts.



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  • From Paul Crowley@21:1/5 to Mario Petrinovic on Wed May 4 09:16:56 2022
    On Tuesday 3 May 2022 at 01:54:24 UTC+1, Mario Petrinovic wrote:

    https://www.wired.com/story/she-was-missing-a-chunk-of-her-brain-it-didnt-matter/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
    . .
    Human brains are extraordinarily large.
    Up to ~ 2.5 ma hominin brains were
    roughly in line with those of other
    primates. They began to increase in
    size about 2.5 ma with the inception
    of ice-ages. But that increase was not
    for any extra problem-solving capacity
    nor for better memory nor intellectual
    capacity. Brains of half that size can
    perform as well.
    . .
    Of course, this isn't scientifically relevant because n = 1.

    N is a lot more than one. I quoted one case
    that happens to be in the news but, while
    such cases are rare, there are enough of
    them to prove the argument that "large
    brains" are not essential for perfectly
    normal human lives.
    . .
    I mean, how can some sane person, with a full working brain say
    such a stupid thing. Yet, the science is stupid, what can you do, lol.
    . .
    Take a look at the world around you, and
    at the intelligence of animals, and of birds
    which have tiny brains.

    Human heads (and brains) are weirdly
    distorted. Painters have long been sensitive
    to this and routinely reduce the size of
    heads, from the average (for a male) of
    6.5-7/1.0 (full-height/head) to 8.0/1.0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdNQR7xYW5k

    Then bear in mind that our ancestral
    head hair was African -- an enormous,
    dense Afro, insulating the head. None
    of that has anything to do with 'brain
    power'.

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Paul Crowley on Wed May 4 09:59:22 2022
    Paul Crowley wrote:

    N is a lot more than one. I quoted one case
    that happens to be in the news but, while
    such cases are rare, there are enough of
    them to prove the argument that "large
    brains" are not essential for perfectly
    normal human lives.

    I've mentioned it before, and no doubt you missed it, but often you
    (speaking rhetorically) can pass yourself off as more intelligent
    than you really are by merely being consistent.

    Stay with me here. It'll be worth it.

    Anyway, check this out:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/12/16/antarctica-glacier-collapse-raise-sea-levels/8924940002/

    It's a mainstream "Science" piece about a "Doomsday Glacier" thought
    to be on the verge of collapse & sliding into the ocean. It's bullshit and
    this much alone is enough to prove it to you:

    : Corrections and clarifications: This story has been updated to reflect that : if the Thwaites Glacier cracks in the next decade, the rise in sea levels by : at least a foot could take decades or centuries to occur.

    Now you know from your primary school education that ice raises water
    levels instantaneously. Fill a glass about halfway with water, mark the water level on the side of the glass, drop in some ice and witness the rise!

    Oo! Let's move on...

    Next, mark the new water level then wait until the ice melts. It shouldn't
    rise at all. Well, there can be something called "Thermal Expansion" but
    if you check just when the last of the ice melts I can't image THAT, or evaporation, coming into play here.

    The point of course is that the mainstream media doesn't report science,
    and even supposedly intelligent people never ever question the propaganda.

    The story about the "Doomsday Glacier?" Yes it's propaganda. It's GWOBULL WARBLING propaganda. It's the medias profession, Job-1, to make you shit yourself in fear over the thought that the planet is burning up during an ice age, even if it's comparatively cold right now.

    Propaganda.

    "Smaller brains are A-Okay!" looks like propaganda.

    We need plenty of DHA, seafood, it grow larger brains and if there's one thing that there isn't, it's an abundance of seafood. In fact there are those who actually study this stuff that claim that the earth maybe has 40 years or so before commercial fishing isn't even a thing.

    It'll be gone. Over-fishing will have ended it... Do the Google on "The American
    Passenger Pigeon" for a comparison.

    But, regardless, "Science" reporting in the mainstream media is gone. We're never getting it back. And people doing this kind of work won't see any grant money anyway, so nobody legitimate is never going to be writing any papers.

    I know, I know, "But that's only true when I want it to be! It's not true all the
    time. I'm not consistent."




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  • From Paul Crowley@21:1/5 to I Envy JTEM on Fri May 6 11:55:30 2022
    On Wednesday 4 May 2022 at 17:59:23 UTC+1, I Envy JTEM wrote:

    Next, mark the new water level then wait until the ice melts. It shouldn't rise at all. Well, there can be something called "Thermal Expansion" but
    if you check just when the last of the ice melts I can't image THAT, or evaporation, coming into play here.

    The point of course is that the mainstream media doesn't report science,
    and even supposedly intelligent people never ever question the propaganda.

    Some glaciers/ ice-flows/ icebergs float
    in the sea; when they melt, there is no
    change in sea level. Glaciers above sea-
    level, that are resting on solid rock,
    also melt. Their melting (at rates above
    the formation of new ice from snowfall)
    does cause a rise in sea-level. If all the
    glaciers on Greenland melt, worldwide
    sea-levels will rise by ~20ft (6 metres).

    Almost everyone knows this.

    The story about the "Doomsday Glacier?" Yes it's propaganda. It's GWOBULL WARBLING propaganda.

    I'd sooner discuss global warming with
    the snowdrops and other flowers that
    are emerging earlier each year, and
    with the butterflies, birds, and the
    thousands of other species changing
    their behaviour. There are reports
    almost every day:

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2306602-uks-spring-flowers-are-blooming-a-month-early-due-to-climate-change/

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/130116-spring-earlier-global-warming-plants-trees-blooming-science

    "Smaller brains are A-Okay!" looks like propaganda.

    It's all part of a secret pro-Putin plot.
    Don't tell anyone.

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Paul Crowley on Fri May 6 14:28:09 2022
    Paul Crowley wrote:

    Some glaciers/ ice-flows/ icebergs float
    in the sea; when they melt, there is no
    change in sea level.

    That was my point. But the media was "Reporting" that
    if this "Doomsday Glacier" broke off & slid into the sea
    it might take a century or more for it to cause a rise in
    sea level.

    Almost everyone knows this.
    The story about the "Doomsday Glacier?" Yes it's propaganda. It's GWOBULL WARBLING propaganda.

    I'd sooner discuss global warming with
    the snowdrops

    Oh, I'm sure you have. Many times. No need to be modest.

    There are reports almost every day:

    I know, and I just cited one such "Report" that even you
    agree was total bunk... only for your to turn around and
    pretend that the media can only every be honest &
    accurate. Wow. Just like I said.

    You can't even manage to be consistent WITHIN a post,
    much less across threads or topics. But if you want to
    look intelligent you need to be consistent.

    If you want, and we both aren't going to waste any time
    pretending that you want but, if you want I can show you
    how to decipher propaganda. It's really all about spotting
    the bias, what it accomplishes.

    I think it too much for you but I can post something, and
    you can always move your lips for a few moments,
    pretending that you're reading it, before posting something
    dumb in reply.




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  • From Primum Sapienti@21:1/5 to Paul Crowley on Tue May 10 22:05:04 2022
    Paul Crowley wrote:
    https://www.wired.com/story/she-was-missing-a-chunk-of-her-brain-it-didnt-matter/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

    Human brains are extraordinarily large.
    Up to ~ 2.5 ma hominin brains were
    roughly in line with those of other
    primates. They began to increase in
    size about 2.5 ma with the inception
    of ice-ages. But that increase was not
    for any extra problem-solving capacity
    nor for better memory nor intellectual
    capacity. Brains of half that size can
    perform as well.


    Look up hemispherectomies. There's probably some variations on the procedure.

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  • From Paul Crowley@21:1/5 to Primum Sapienti on Wed May 11 15:18:48 2022
    On Wednesday 11 May 2022 at 05:05:04 UTC+1, Primum Sapienti wrote:

    Look up hemispherectomies. There's probably some variations on the procedure.

    Thanks. Good point. It seems that if it's done
    early enough (i.e. before ~6 years old) then
    the effective removal of half of the brain often
    has no, or little, effect.

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  • From I Envy JTEM@21:1/5 to Paul Crowley on Thu May 12 10:00:00 2022
    Paul Crowley wrote:

    Thanks. Good point. It seems that if it's done
    early enough (i.e. before ~6 years old) then
    the effective removal of half of the brain often
    has no, or little, effect.

    He/They/You/It/Them also say that a 4.8 point drop in I.Q.s is not a
    "Hurting" anyone, while nearly all of the human race agrees that
    anything dropping I.Q.s is a very bad thing...

    NOTE: The brain is composed of a large part by DHA, which is
    chiefly found in seafood. Eliminating seafood in the diet does
    result in smaller brains and lower I.Q.s in human populations.

    ...this is also a very likely explanation for the drop in brain
    size seen since the rise of agriculture.






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