• Biped vs quadruped, in water

    From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to Mario Petrinovic on Fri Aug 27 18:10:37 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 7:48:14 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 27.8.2021. 6:08, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:13:05 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    https://youtu.be/f37belk_VQw?t=265

    Finally I see what you mean of kangaroos in water. They are not very effective, their fingers can't grasp or slash, but dogs still cannot beat them. Very interesting. But crocs & sharks still win.
    Crocs need fresh water to breed in. Even Australia's "salties" are
    never far away from fresh water.
    Sharks don't eat terrestrial meat. For them, terrestrial meat isn't a
    food, just like for you, your chair you are sitting on isn't a food.

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    That is not freshwater? What is it?
    Aquatic ape babies backfloating aren't terrestrial meat?
    My chair is bamboo, bamboo sprouts are delicious, but furniture-cured bamboo is too hard.

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  • From Mario Petrinovic@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 28 04:43:30 2021
    On 28.8.2021. 3:10, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 7:48:14 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 27.8.2021. 6:08, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:13:05 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote: >>>> https://youtu.be/f37belk_VQw?t=265

    Finally I see what you mean of kangaroos in water. They are not very effective, their fingers can't grasp or slash, but dogs still cannot beat them. Very interesting. But crocs & sharks still win.
    Crocs need fresh water to breed in. Even Australia's "salties" are
    never far away from fresh water.
    Sharks don't eat terrestrial meat. For them, terrestrial meat isn't a
    food, just like for you, your chair you are sitting on isn't a food.

    That is not freshwater? What is it?
    Aquatic ape babies backfloating aren't terrestrial meat?
    My chair is bamboo, bamboo sprouts are delicious, but furniture-cured bamboo is too hard.

    Gee, I am having enough of this.
    We lived at sea, just like you said, because in freshwater you have
    crocs. See Probocsis monkey.
    This is freshwater, but it is irrelevant to mechanics whether it is
    freshwater or not. Gee.
    Yes, every meat that passed through land, every meat that exited sea
    300 mya, is terrestrial meat. Jesus Christ.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to Mario Petrinovic on Sat Aug 28 01:18:27 2021
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:43:30 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 28.8.2021. 3:10, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 7:48:14 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 27.8.2021. 6:08, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:13:05 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    https://youtu.be/f37belk_VQw?t=265

    Finally I see what you mean of kangaroos in water. They are not very effective, their fingers can't grasp or slash, but dogs still cannot beat them. Very interesting. But crocs & sharks still win.
    Crocs need fresh water to breed in. Even Australia's "salties" are
    never far away from fresh water.
    Sharks don't eat terrestrial meat. For them, terrestrial meat isn't a
    food, just like for you, your chair you are sitting on isn't a food.

    That is not freshwater? What is it?
    Aquatic ape babies backfloating aren't terrestrial meat?
    My chair is bamboo, bamboo sprouts are delicious, but furniture-cured bamboo is too hard.
    Gee, I am having enough of this.
    We lived at sea, just like you said, because in freshwater you have
    crocs.
    Also in coastal estuaries where rivers meet the sea.
    .
    See Probocsis monkey.
    This is freshwater, but it is irrelevant to mechanics whether it is freshwater or not. Gee.
    Yes, every meat that passed through land, every meat that exited sea
    300 mya, is terrestrial meat. Jesus Christ.

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  • From Mario Petrinovic@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 28 14:33:39 2021
    On 28.8.2021. 10:18, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:43:30 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 28.8.2021. 3:10, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 7:48:14 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote: >>>> On 27.8.2021. 6:08, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:13:05 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    https://youtu.be/f37belk_VQw?t=265

    Finally I see what you mean of kangaroos in water. They are not very effective, their fingers can't grasp or slash, but dogs still cannot beat them. Very interesting. But crocs & sharks still win.
    Crocs need fresh water to breed in. Even Australia's "salties" are
    never far away from fresh water.
    Sharks don't eat terrestrial meat. For them, terrestrial meat isn't a
    food, just like for you, your chair you are sitting on isn't a food.

    That is not freshwater? What is it?
    Aquatic ape babies backfloating aren't terrestrial meat?
    My chair is bamboo, bamboo sprouts are delicious, but furniture-cured bamboo is too hard.
    Gee, I am having enough of this.
    We lived at sea, just like you said, because in freshwater you have
    crocs.

    Also in coastal estuaries where rivers meet the sea.
    .
    See Probocsis monkey.

    Absolutely. But not in sea. This is why we evolved in sea.
    We are similar to Proboscis monkey, yet, we are not Probocis monkies.
    BTW, if you are using fire, you can burn crocs' nests.

    This is freshwater, but it is irrelevant to mechanics whether it is
    freshwater or not. Gee.
    Yes, every meat that passed through land, every meat that exited sea
    300 mya, is terrestrial meat. Jesus Christ.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to Mario Petrinovic on Sat Aug 28 13:40:33 2021
    On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 8:33:39 AM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 28.8.2021. 10:18, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:43:30 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 28.8.2021. 3:10, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 7:48:14 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote: >>>> On 27.8.2021. 6:08, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:13:05 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    https://youtu.be/f37belk_VQw?t=265

    Finally I see what you mean of kangaroos in water. They are not very effective, their fingers can't grasp or slash, but dogs still cannot beat them. Very interesting. But crocs & sharks still win.
    Crocs need fresh water to breed in. Even Australia's "salties" are
    never far away from fresh water.
    Sharks don't eat terrestrial meat. For them, terrestrial meat isn't a >>>> food, just like for you, your chair you are sitting on isn't a food.

    That is not freshwater? What is it?
    Aquatic ape babies backfloating aren't terrestrial meat?
    My chair is bamboo, bamboo sprouts are delicious, but furniture-cured bamboo is too hard.
    Gee, I am having enough of this.
    We lived at sea, just like you said, because in freshwater you have
    crocs.

    Also in coastal estuaries where rivers meet the sea.
    .
    See Probocsis monkey.
    Absolutely. But not in sea. This is why we evolved in sea.
    We are similar to Proboscis monkey, yet, we are not Probocis monkies.
    BTW, if you are using fire, you can burn crocs' nests.
    This is freshwater, but it is irrelevant to mechanics whether it is
    freshwater or not. Gee.
    Yes, every meat that passed through land, every meat that exited sea
    300 mya, is terrestrial meat. Jesus Christ.

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    In sea? Then aquamarine.

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  • From Mario Petrinovic@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 29 03:21:51 2021
    On 28.8.2021. 22:40, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 8:33:39 AM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    On 28.8.2021. 10:18, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:43:30 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote: >>>> On 28.8.2021. 3:10, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
    On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 7:48:14 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote: >>>>>> On 27.8.2021. 6:08, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:13:05 PM UTC-4, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
    https://youtu.be/f37belk_VQw?t=265

    Finally I see what you mean of kangaroos in water. They are not very effective, their fingers can't grasp or slash, but dogs still cannot beat them. Very interesting. But crocs & sharks still win.
    Crocs need fresh water to breed in. Even Australia's "salties" are >>>>>> never far away from fresh water.
    Sharks don't eat terrestrial meat. For them, terrestrial meat isn't a >>>>>> food, just like for you, your chair you are sitting on isn't a food. >>>>>
    That is not freshwater? What is it?
    Aquatic ape babies backfloating aren't terrestrial meat?
    My chair is bamboo, bamboo sprouts are delicious, but furniture-cured bamboo is too hard.
    Gee, I am having enough of this.
    We lived at sea, just like you said, because in freshwater you have
    crocs.

    Also in coastal estuaries where rivers meet the sea.
    .
    See Probocsis monkey.
    Absolutely. But not in sea. This is why we evolved in sea.
    We are similar to Proboscis monkey, yet, we are not Probocis monkies.
    BTW, if you are using fire, you can burn crocs' nests.
    This is freshwater, but it is irrelevant to mechanics whether it is
    freshwater or not. Gee.
    Yes, every meat that passed through land, every meat that exited sea
    300 mya, is terrestrial meat. Jesus Christ.

    In sea? Then aquamarine.

    "AAT" is good enough for me. As a term.
    After all, those people who got the idea, deserve recognition. My idea
    is just a variation of the main idea, the main idea is the difficult
    part, which somebody has to figure out. That's regarding the "aquatic" part.
    Of course, the cliff and the fire part is "all mine", :)~~ .

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 6 03:27:53 2021
    Op zondag 29 augustus 2021 om 03:21:51 UTC+2 schreef Mario Petrinovic:

    "AAT" is good enough for me. As a term.

    Yes, "AAT" is short, although not very correct.
    What is proven (comparative biology etc.):
    1) Mio-Pliocene hominoids aquarboreal: frequently wading-climbing vertically in swamp/mangrove/flooded forests,
    e.g. centrally-placed spine, broad sternum-thorax-pelvis (Latisternalia), large body (secondarily reduced in hylobatids)...
    Tethys Ocean coasts + along rivers/lakes inland,
    2) Pleistocene Homo littoral: frequent shallow-diving: coastal dispersal: Flores-Java-S.Asia, Arabia, Africa, Europe
    + along rivers/lakes inland (esp.interglacials?).

    Only complete idiots still believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.
    Google "ape human evolution made easy PPT verhaegen"

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