https://bigthink.com/the-past/out-of-africa-events/

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DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

https://bigthink.com/the-past/out-of-africa-events/

It's bullshit. If there were TWO events 300k years apart, what was
Homo doing in Asia 2 million years ago?

Time travel?

: A recent analysis of a 1.5-million-year-old vertebra discovered in modern-day
: Israel sheds light on ancient dispersal events.

This suggests Asia and not Africa. After all, it's newer than Asian finds so if they
grow newer as you approach Africa, it suggests Out-of-Asia.

Don't know if it really matters, except in shattering the linear stupidity of it all.





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P.S.

Always argued that 00A is a recent acquisition. That, as modern people
pushed into west Africa they encountered/interbred with older, archaic populations and absorbed the 00A.

The Bantu people simply aren't that old, and they originate exactly where populations AND DNA were moving between Asia and Africa. As they
spread throughout Africa they would have absorbed many other people
and their genetics.




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On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 6:08:52 PM UTC-5, I Envy JTEM wrote:

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

https://bigthink.com/the-past/out-of-africa-events/

It's bullshit. If there were TWO events 300k years apart, what was
Homo doing in Asia 2 million years ago?

Time travel?

: A recent analysis of a 1.5-million-year-old vertebra discovered in modern-day
: Israel sheds light on ancient dispersal events.

This suggests Asia and not Africa. After all, it's newer than Asian finds so if they
grow newer as you approach Africa, it suggests Out-of-Asia.

Don't know if it really matters, except in shattering the linear stupidity of it all.

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Levantine corridor, conduit, 2-way street.

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On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 1:50:02 PM UTC-5, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

https://bigthink.com/the-past/out-of-africa-events/

Three separate groups ~ 1.6ma
Turkana tall male child Lakeshore/stream
Ubeidiya tall male child Lakeshore stream
Dmanisi short male adults? River?
Java

Monkeys elephants hyenas

woodland stream transit between water bodies


It was clear that the fossil was a vertebra, but of which species? After all, the remains of numerous animals — monkeys, hyenas, elephants — had been discovered at the ‘Ubeidiya site, so the answer wasn’t immediately clear.

The recent study used modern imaging techniques to compare the vertebra with those of other ancient creatures. The results show that the fossil almost certainly belonged to a large-bodied bipedal hominin. How did the researchers know? Because us bipeds
walk upright, our lower back supports a relatively large share of our body weight, so our vertebrae are shaped differently than, say, a monkey’s. The shape of the vertebra is consistent with hominins, specifically a young and rather tall hominin
between the ages of 6 and 12 years. Based on the age of other artifacts found at the same site, the child likely lived 1.5 million years ago.

Updating “Out of Africa”
The boy who died at ‘Ubeidiya was indeed ancient. But he and his fellow hominins who walked the Levantine corridor some 1.5 million years ago were far preceded by another hominin species: an ancient group discovered in Dmanisi, Georgia, who date back 1.
8 million years. The two groups not only differed in location, time, and technology (the Dmanisi created less complex tools than the ‘Ubeidiya), but also in genetics: The ‘Ubeidiya had bigger bodies than the Dmanisi, and the areas to which they
migrated suggest they had evolved different ecological and behavioral adaptations.

It’s still not exactly clear where the ‘Ubeidiya species lies on the evolutionary tree. However, researchers noted that the size of the fossil suggests it would have been too large of a creature to be classified as a Homo habilis, one of the earliest
of the Homo species. The fossil more closely resembles Homo erectus, which first emerged approximately two million years ago and is considered by many scientists to be an ancient ancestor of modern humans

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On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:16:31 AM UTC-5, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 1:50:02 PM UTC-5, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

https://bigthink.com/the-past/out-of-africa-events/

Three separate groups ~ 1.6ma
Turkana tall male child Lakeshore/stream
Ubeidiya tall male child Lakeshore stream
Dmanisi short male adults? River?
Java

Monkeys elephants hyenas

woodland stream transit between water bodies

It was clear that the fossil was a vertebra, but of which species? After all, the remains of numerous animals — monkeys, hyenas, elephants — had been discovered at the ‘Ubeidiya site, so the answer wasn’t immediately clear.

The recent study used modern imaging techniques to compare the vertebra with those of other ancient creatures. The results show that the fossil almost certainly belonged to a large-bodied bipedal hominin. How did the researchers know? Because us bipeds

walk upright, our lower back supports a relatively large share of our body weight, so our vertebrae are shaped differently than, say, a monkey’s. The shape of the vertebra is consistent with hominins, specifically a young and rather tall hominin
between the ages of 6 and 12 years. Based on the age of other artifacts found at the same site, the child likely lived 1.5 million years ago.

Updating “Out of Africa”
The boy who died at ‘Ubeidiya was indeed ancient. But he and his fellow hominins who walked the Levantine corridor some 1.5 million years ago were far preceded by another hominin species: an ancient group discovered in Dmanisi, Georgia, who date back

1.8 million years. The two groups not only differed in location, time, and technology (the Dmanisi created less complex tools than the ‘Ubeidiya), but also in genetics: The ‘Ubeidiya had bigger bodies than the Dmanisi, and the areas to which they
migrated suggest they had evolved different ecological and behavioral adaptations.

It’s still not exactly clear where the ‘Ubeidiya species lies on the evolutionary tree. However, researchers noted that the size of the fossil suggests it would have been too large of a creature to be classified as a Homo habilis, one of the

earliest of the Homo species. The fossil more closely resembles Homo erectus, which first emerged approximately two million years ago and is considered by many scientists to be an ancient ancestor of modern humans
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According to old Encyclopedia Britannica, Ubeidiya was submerged by the Dead Sea at that time, but the Hula wetlands were never submerged due to higher elevation.

During the Pleistocene Epoch (2,588,000 to 11,700 years ago), the Dead Sea rose to an elevation of about 700 feet (200 metres) above its modern level, forming a vast inland sea that stretched some 200 miles (320 km) from the H̱ula Valley area in the
north to 40 miles (64 km) beyond its present southern limits. The Dead Sea did not spill over into the Gulf of Aqaba because it was blocked ...

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DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

Three separate groups ~ 1.6ma

Bzzt. Homo was already in Asia before that so the model is already debunked.

Total fail.






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On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 4:31:58 PM UTC-5, I Envy JTEM wrote:

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

Three separate groups ~ 1.6ma

Bzzt. Homo was already in Asia before that so the model is already debunked.

Total fail.

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Duh, Java. I referred to the similarity between Turkana & Ubeidiya.

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On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 4:31:58 PM UTC-5, I Envy JTEM wrote:

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:

Three separate groups ~ 1.6ma

Bzzt. Homo was already in Asia before that so the model is already debunked.

Total fail.

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The Jerm strikes out again:

Oldest Homo erectus: Drimolen, South Africa, near Jo'burg & Pretoria, far from any saltwater. Found in same cave system as Paranthropus.

https://popular-archaeology.com/article/the-remarkable-skulls-of-drimolen/

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Hey; retard!

You don't read your "Cites," you couldn't understand them even if you did
but it's not exactly a compelling case for erectus.

: the small skull was that of a hominin, not of a baboon, as had previously been
: suggested along with buck, hyaena, and others.

So it's small, the brain would not be large even for habilis and absolutely nobody
on site looked at it and saw erectus.

NOW we consider the fact that paleo anthropology is not a science at all, that it's
a social program where the norm -- as opposed to the exception -- is to invent evidence in support of OoA AND THEN we recall that the media couldn't report actual science if you held a gun to it's head and threatened it's life...

Now to swing you back to reality, though it's doubtful you'll stay...

Erectus is in Asia. If you want to call this Hyaena/buck/baboon skull erectus that's
fine. But erectus is in Asia. So if it's in Africa and it's in Asia then it got to all of
these places following the coast: Aquatic Ape.

The stupidity here, YOUR inexcusable stupidity is in upholding a model where humans dropped from the sky one day, landed in southeast Africa, looked around and said, "I'm hungry. Can anyone else go for Chinese? Let's migrate to Asia!"

It didn't happen.

Humans don't come from a place, we come from Aquatic Ape. We come from the diet, the lifestyle, the spreading out, branching off and then sharing back the beneficial traits that developed in isolation...






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On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 10:29:34 AM UTC-5, I Envy JTEM wrote:

Hey; retard!

You don't read your "Cites," you couldn't understand them even if you did
but it's not exactly a compelling case for erectus.

: the small skull was that of a hominin, not of a baboon, as had previously been
: suggested along with buck, hyaena, and others.

So it's small, the brain would not be large even for habilis and absolutely nobody
on site looked at it and saw erectus.

NOW we consider the fact that paleo anthropology is not a science at all, that it's
a social program where the norm -- as opposed to the exception -- is to invent
evidence in support of OoA AND THEN we recall that the media couldn't report actual science if you held a gun to it's head and threatened it's life...

Now to swing you back to reality, though it's doubtful you'll stay...

Erectus is in Asia. If you want to call this Hyaena/buck/baboon skull erectus that's
fine. But erectus is in Asia. So if it's in Africa and it's in Asia then it got to all of
these places following the coast: Aquatic Ape.

The stupidity here, YOUR inexcusable stupidity is in upholding a model where humans dropped from the sky one day, landed in southeast Africa, looked around
and said, "I'm hungry. Can anyone else go for Chinese? Let's migrate to Asia!"

It didn't happen.

Humans don't come from a place, we come from Aquatic Ape. We come from the diet, the lifestyle, the spreading out, branching off and then sharing back the
beneficial traits that developed in isolation...

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Jerm fails again.

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