• swim & dive

    From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 31 11:21:38 2021
    Some minus habentes here don't know the difference between swim & dive.

    - All tetrapods with pachyosteosclerosis (POS) are slow-shallow divers for sessile foods. H.erectus & neandertals had POS...

    - Auditory exostoses are caused by cold water irrigation. Neandertals had ear exostoses...

    IOW, only incredible imbeciles deny H.erectus & neandertals frequently dived for sessile foods.

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    Pachyosteosclerosis in Archaic Homo:
    Heavy Skulls for Diving, Heavy Legs for Wading?
    Stephen Munro cs 2011 Sch.Archaeol.Anthrop. Austr.Nat.Univ.Canberra
    pp.82-105 ch.5 in
    Was Man More Aquatic in the Past?
    Mario Vaneechoutte cs eds 2011 Bentham Sci.Publ.

    Compared to the skeletons of all other primates (incl.H.sapiens), the crania & postcrania of H.erectus were typically massive, displaying
    - extremely thick bones,
    - compact cortices,
    - narrow medullary canals.
    Even outside the primate order, examples of animals displaying such massive bones are rare.
    ...
    Here, we present data showing:
    unusu.heavy bones were a typical (although not exclusive, nor indispensable) characteristic of H.erectus populations through the early, middle & late Pleistocene, in areas of Asia, Africa & Europe.

    A comparative review of the occurrence of massive skeletons in other mammals suggests:
    they have an important buoyancy control function in shallow-diving (semi)aquatic spp,
    they are part of a set of adaptations that allow for the more efficient collection of slow, sessile & immobile foods, e.g.
    - aquatic vegetation,
    - hard-shelled invertebrates.

    We therefore consider the possibility:
    part-time shore-line collection of aquatic foods might have been a typical element of the lifestyle of H.erectus populations.

    We discuss
    - the alternative explanations for heavy bones from the literature,
    - apparent exceptions to the rule,
    e.g. thin-boned H.erectus & thick-boned H.sapiens fossils.

    A review of the palaeo-ecological data shows:
    most (if not all) H.erectus fossils & tools are ass.x
    - water-dependent molluscs,
    - large bodies of permanent water.

    Fresh & salt water habitats have different densities:
    in H.erectus & in some H.sapiens populations, there might have been a positive correlation between massive bones & dwelling along sea or salt lake shores.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sat Jan 1 02:30:43 2022
    On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 2:21:39 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Some minus habentes here don't know the difference between swim & dive.

    - All tetrapods with pachyosteosclerosis (POS) are slow-shallow divers for sessile foods. H.erectus & neandertals had POS...

    - Auditory exostoses are caused by cold water irrigation. Neandertals had ear exostoses...

    IOW, only incredible imbeciles deny H.erectus & neandertals frequently dived for sessile foods.

    _____

    Pachyosteosclerosis in Archaic Homo:
    Heavy Skulls for Diving, Heavy Legs for Wading?
    Stephen Munro cs 2011 Sch.Archaeol.Anthrop. Austr.Nat.Univ.Canberra
    pp.82-105 ch.5 in
    Was Man More Aquatic in the Past?
    Mario Vaneechoutte cs eds 2011 Bentham Sci.Publ.

    Compared to the skeletons of all other primates (incl.H.sapiens), the crania & postcrania of H.erectus were typically massive, displaying
    - extremely thick bones,
    - compact cortices,
    - narrow medullary canals.
    Even outside the primate order, examples of animals displaying such massive bones are rare.
    ...
    Here, we present data showing:
    unusu.heavy bones were a typical (although not exclusive, nor indispensable) characteristic of H.erectus populations through the early, middle & late Pleistocene, in areas of Asia, Africa & Europe.

    A comparative review of the occurrence of massive skeletons in other mammals suggests:
    they have an important buoyancy control function in shallow-diving (semi)aquatic spp,
    they are part of a set of adaptations that allow for the more efficient collection of slow, sessile & immobile foods, e.g.
    - aquatic vegetation,
    - hard-shelled invertebrates.

    We therefore consider the possibility:
    part-time shore-line collection of aquatic foods might have been a typical element of the lifestyle of H.erectus populations.

    We discuss
    - the alternative explanations for heavy bones from the literature,
    - apparent exceptions to the rule,
    e.g. thin-boned H.erectus & thick-boned H.sapiens fossils.

    A review of the palaeo-ecological data shows:
    most (if not all) H.erectus fossils & tools are ass.x
    - water-dependent molluscs,
    - large bodies of permanent water.

    Fresh & salt water habitats have different densities:
    in H.erectus & in some H.sapiens populations, there might have been a positive correlation between massive bones & dwelling along sea or salt lake shores.
    -
    Thanks Stephen, of course we know that of all Homo today, Central-West Africans have the densest bones. Do they spent all their time in water, like their aquatic neighbors, West African manatees?

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 1 04:16:00 2022
    Op zaterdag 1 januari 2022 om 11:30:45 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

    - All tetrapods with pachyosteosclerosis (POS) are slow-shallow divers for sessile foods. H.erectus & neandertals had POS...
    - Auditory exostoses are caused by cold water irrigation. Neandertals had ear exostoses...
    IOW, only incredible imbeciles deny H.erectus & neandertals frequently dived for sessile foods.

    _____

    Pachyosteosclerosis in Archaic Homo:
    Heavy Skulls for Diving, Heavy Legs for Wading?
    Stephen Munro cs 2011 Sch.Archaeol.Anthrop. Austr.Nat.Univ.Canberra pp.82-105 ch.5 in Was Man More Aquatic in the Past?
    Mario Vaneechoutte cs eds 2011 Bentham Sci.Publ.

    Compared to the skeletons of all other primates (incl.H.sapiens), the crania & postcrania of H.erectus were typically massive, displaying
    - extremely thick bones,
    - compact cortices,
    - narrow medullary canals.
    Even outside the primate order, examples of animals displaying such massive bones are rare. ...

    Here, we present data showing:
    unusu.heavy bones were a typical (although not exclusive, nor indispensable) characteristic of H.erectus populations through the early, middle & late Pleistocene, in areas of Asia, Africa & Europe.

    A comparative review of the occurrence of massive skeletons in other mammals suggests:
    they have an important buoyancy control function in shallow-diving (semi)aquatic spp,
    they are part of a set of adaptations that allow for the more efficient collection of slow, sessile & immobile foods, e.g.
    - aquatic vegetation,
    - hard-shelled invertebrates.

    We therefore consider the possibility:
    part-time shore-line collection of aquatic foods might have been a typical element of the lifestyle of H.erectus populations.
    We discuss
    - the alternative explanations for heavy bones from the literature,
    - apparent exceptions to the rule,
    e.g. thin-boned H.erectus & thick-boned H.sapiens fossils.

    A review of the palaeo-ecological data shows:
    most (if not all) H.erectus fossils & tools are ass.x
    - water-dependent molluscs,
    - large bodies of permanent water.
    Fresh & salt water habitats have different densities:
    in H.erectus & in some H.sapiens populations, there might have been a positive correlation between massive bones & dwelling along sea or salt lake shores.


    Thanks Stephen, of course we know that of all Homo today, Central-West Africans have the densest bones. Do they spent all their time in water, like their aquatic neighbors, West African manatees?

    My pathetic little boy, neandertal & even more so erectus bones were incomparably more pachyosteosclerotic that your "dense" African bones.
    Grow up.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sat Jan 1 20:24:38 2022
    On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 7:16:01 AM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op zaterdag 1 januari 2022 om 11:30:45 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
    - All tetrapods with pachyosteosclerosis (POS) are slow-shallow divers for sessile foods. H.erectus & neandertals had POS...
    - Auditory exostoses are caused by cold water irrigation. Neandertals had ear exostoses...
    IOW, only incredible imbeciles deny H.erectus & neandertals frequently dived for sessile foods.

    _____

    Pachyosteosclerosis in Archaic Homo:
    Heavy Skulls for Diving, Heavy Legs for Wading?
    Stephen Munro cs 2011 Sch.Archaeol.Anthrop. Austr.Nat.Univ.Canberra pp.82-105 ch.5 in Was Man More Aquatic in the Past?
    Mario Vaneechoutte cs eds 2011 Bentham Sci.Publ.

    Compared to the skeletons of all other primates (incl.H.sapiens), the crania & postcrania of H.erectus were typically massive, displaying
    - extremely thick bones,
    - compact cortices,
    - narrow medullary canals.
    Even outside the primate order, examples of animals displaying such massive bones are rare. ...

    Here, we present data showing:
    unusu.heavy bones were a typical (although not exclusive, nor indispensable) characteristic of H.erectus populations through the early, middle & late Pleistocene, in areas of Asia, Africa & Europe.

    A comparative review of the occurrence of massive skeletons in other mammals suggests:
    they have an important buoyancy control function in shallow-diving (semi)aquatic spp,
    they are part of a set of adaptations that allow for the more efficient collection of slow, sessile & immobile foods, e.g.
    - aquatic vegetation,
    - hard-shelled invertebrates.

    We therefore consider the possibility:
    part-time shore-line collection of aquatic foods might have been a typical element of the lifestyle of H.erectus populations.
    We discuss
    - the alternative explanations for heavy bones from the literature,
    - apparent exceptions to the rule,
    e.g. thin-boned H.erectus & thick-boned H.sapiens fossils.

    A review of the palaeo-ecological data shows:
    most (if not all) H.erectus fossils & tools are ass.x
    - water-dependent molluscs,
    - large bodies of permanent water.
    Fresh & salt water habitats have different densities:
    in H.erectus & in some H.sapiens populations, there might have been a positive correlation between massive bones & dwelling along sea or salt lake shores.
    Thanks Stephen, of course we know that of all Homo today, Central-West Africans have the densest bones. Do they spent all their time in water, like their aquatic neighbors, West African manatees?
    My pathetic little boy, neandertal & even more so erectus bones were incomparably more pachyosteosclerotic that your "dense" African bones.
    Grow up.

    Oh, right Stephen, manatees and neandertals backfloat while chasing snorkeled saiga. That confirms our little view.

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