• diving->wading

    From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 18 04:34:53 2021
    Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal
    foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose,
    smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.

    Early-Pleist.archaic Homo already used stone tools to collect &/or open shellfish: did the late-Pleist.shift to wading + tools in the hands preadapt to terrestrial walking? But which foods mostly initially? waterside plants that had to be cut? rice &
    later other grains? Did the shift from shellfish/fish to waterside & later terrestrial ("brain-poor") foods require sapiens' later puberty?

    In any case, savanna hunting was only very localized & extremely late, probably Holocene: only incredible imbeciles believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sat Dec 18 08:38:03 2021
    On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 7:34:54 AM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal
    foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose,
    smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.

    Early-Pleist.archaic Homo already used stone tools to collect &/or open shellfish: did the late-Pleist.shift to wading + tools in the hands preadapt to terrestrial walking? But which foods mostly initially? waterside plants that had to be cut? rice &
    later other grains? Did the shift from shellfish/fish to waterside & later terrestrial ("brain-poor") foods require sapiens' later puberty?

    In any case, savanna hunting was only very localized & extremely late, probably Holocene: only incredible imbeciles believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.

    Wading -> diving/backfloating -> wading -> ??

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 18 09:14:21 2021
    Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 17:38:04 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

    Wading -> diving/backfloating -> wading -> ??

    ???


    It's no difficult, even you can understand:

    Mio-Pliocene aquarboreal hominoids,
    early-Pleistocene littoral archaic Homo,
    late-Pleistocene waiding-walking H.sapiens.

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 18 09:36:37 2021
    Humans are simply grounded apes with inverted bowl nests.

    :-DDD

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sat Dec 18 09:25:03 2021
    On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:14:22 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 17:38:04 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
    Wading -> diving/backfloating -> wading -> ??
    ???


    It's no difficult, even you can understand:

    Mio-Pliocene aquarboreal hominoids,
    early-Pleistocene littoral archaic Homo,
    late-Pleistocene waiding-walking H.sapiens.

    So wading birds have diving/backfloating ancestors???

    Where do you dig up these silly ideas???

    Humans are simply grounded apes with inverted bowl nests. Why detour all over when we already have the parsimonious answers?

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 18 09:43:33 2021
    Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 13:34:54 UTC+1 schreef littor...@gmail.com:

    Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal
    foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose,
    smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.

    Biologically-anatomically-medically obvious.

    Early-Pleist.archaic Homo already used stone tools to collect &/or open shellfish: did the late-Pleist.shift to wading + tools in the hands preadapt to terrestrial walking? But which foods mostly initially? waterside plants that had to be cut? rice &
    later other grains? ...

    In wading, not only the hands were above the water, but also the mouth: what was the importance of speech in the archaic->sapiens transition?
    Human speech became possble thanks to voluntary breath!ng (diving animals) & probably hyoidal descent (see papers of Nishimura, probably for suction-feeding, allowing consonants) & perhaps brain enlargement (DHA etc.).

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 18 11:01:09 2021
    Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 19:35:20 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

    was miserably unable to say 1 sensible word.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sat Dec 18 11:14:18 2021
    On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 2:01:10 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 19:35:20 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

    was miserably unable to say 1 sensible word.

    Exostoses meine kleine tochter? Put your ears underwater and sneeze. Works every time.

    Humans sleep in shelters on land.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sat Dec 18 10:35:19 2021
    On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:43:34 PM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 13:34:54 UTC+1 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
    Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal
    foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose,
    smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.
    Biologically-anatomically-medically obvious.

    Early-Pleist.archaic Homo already used stone tools to collect &/or open shellfish: did the late-Pleist.shift to wading + tools in the hands preadapt to terrestrial walking? But which foods mostly initially? waterside plants that had to be cut? rice &
    later other grains? ...

    In wading, not only the hands were above the water, but also the mouth: what was the importance of speech in the archaic->sapiens transition?

    Silly fantast, Dutch-speaking parrots never wade, Dutch wading birds do not speak Dutch! Cannot get more fantastic than your nonsense. Just let apes be apes, arboreal or terrestrial.
    No more marine-maniac mermaids please!

    Human speech became possble thanks to voluntary breath!ng (diving animals) & probably hyoidal descent (see papers of Nishimura, probably for suction-feeding, allowing consonants) & perhaps brain enlargement (DHA etc.).

    Nonsense, see G Morgan's work at AAT.io, or did you forget already again?

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    DD ~ David ~ Da'ud ~ Diode ~ ∆^¥°∆

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 18 14:11:43 2021
    Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 20:14:19 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

    Exostoses meine kleine tochter? Put your ears underwater and sneeze. Works every time.

    Simply look up: ear exostosis.

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 19 01:50:26 2021
    Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 13:34:54 UTC+1 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
    Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal
    foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose,
    smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.

    Each of these *independently* shows, suggests or is best compatible with semi-aquaticness:
    -more dorsal for.magnum
    -platycephaly + SOT
    -no chin
    -pachy-osteo-sclerosis (leaves no doubt: neandertals frequently dived for shallow-aquatic sessile foods)
    -full plantigrady
    -platypelloidy + long & horizontal femoral necks (later movements of legs) -shorter tibias
    -big nose
    -large lungs

    IOW, only incredible imbeciles believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.

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  • From DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_l@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Sun Dec 19 16:04:56 2021
    On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 4:50:27 AM UTC-5, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Op zaterdag 18 december 2021 om 13:34:54 UTC+1 schreef littor...@gmail.com:
    Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal
    foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose,
    smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.
    Each of these *independently* shows, suggests or is best compatible with semi-aquaticness:
    -more dorsal for.magnum
    -platycephaly + SOT
    -no chin
    -pachy-osteo-sclerosis (leaves no doubt: neandertals frequently dived for shallow-aquatic sessile foods)
    -full plantigrady
    -platypelloidy + long & horizontal femoral necks (later movements of legs) -shorter tibias
    -big nose
    -large lungs

    IOW, only incredible imbeciles believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes.
    Continue to answer yourself, best fantasy !

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 20 08:40:24 2021
    Op maandag 20 december 2021 om 01:04:57 UTC+1 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:


    Mid-Late-Pleistocene we evolved remakably fast: we're not aquatic any more at all: frequent drownings! Why did predom.diving archaic Homo evolve into to predom.wading-walking early sapiens? salmon trek? trout? This easily explains: our less dorsal
    foramen magnum, loss of platycephaly & supra-orbital torus, our high forehead, chin, loss of pachyosteosclerosis, reduced plantigrady, less wide pelvis + shorter & less horizontal femoral necks, loss of platymeria, our longer tibias, reduced nose,
    smaller paranasal sinuses & smaller lungs than in neandertals, etc.

    Each of these *independently* shows, suggests or is best compatible with semi-aquaticness:
    -more dorsal for.magnum
    -platycephaly + SOT
    -no chin
    -pachy-osteo-sclerosis (leaves no doubt: neandertals frequently dived for shallow-aquatic sessile foods)
    -full plantigrady
    -platypelloidy + long & horizontal femoral necks (later movements of legs) -shorter tibias
    -big nose
    -large lungs

    Continue to answer yourself, best fantasy !

    My little boy, grow up:
    all these 9 tratis are real...
    But, yes, we know you're incapable of answering...

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