I almost never post on weekends, as you may have learned in sci.bio.paleontology, but
I was really tempted to make an exception for this one.
On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:18:43 PM UTC-4, DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:08:42 PM UTC-4, peter2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 4:47:48 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
Op vrijdag 20 augustus 2021 om 02:19:59 UTC+2 schreef peter2...@gmail.com:
I'm envious: this group is a lot more active than sci.bio.paleontology.
The most active group is a...@groups.io :-)
Still, I couldn't resist showing the following post that appeared in talk.origins
to this group. It seems to fit s.a.p. in a delightfully different way than usual.
On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 11:26:19 AM UTC-4, Mark Isaak wrote:
‘Mind blowing’: Grizzly bear DNA maps onto Indigenous language families.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/mind-blowing-grizzly-bear-dna-maps-indigenous-language-families
Bears became the Pleistocene salmon-eaters of the N.America, whereas Homo became the Pleistocene salmon-eaters of Europe?
I think one important key is that trout and other inland salmonids were widespread and available to hominins in Eurasia & Africa, and that they actually have higher levels of omega 3 oils DHA & EPA (brain builders) than coastal oysters & mussels.
I don't know the answer to that question, but it is completely irrelevant to what I was talking about,
as you would know if you hadn't snipped so much and then focused only on what you had left in.
No wonder grizzley & human run parallel?
To the extent of three separate grizzly-human pairings remaining stable for millennia in
one corner of British Columbia????
This would indicate that grizzly bears are highly territorial, in stable populations around major food sources.
Also Native Americans, contrary to the belief (myth?) that they thought of all land being the common domain of them all.
That reminded me of what is probably the longest place name in the USA:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Lake-Chargoggagoggmanchauggauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
"Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg, also called Lake Chaubunagungamaug or Webster Lake, central Massachusetts, U.S. It is located in southern Worcester county near the town of Webster. The lake’s name is reportedly Nipmuc (
Algonquian) for what popular culture has held to mean “You fish on your side; I fish on my side; nobody fishes in the middle,” although there is evidence that this interpretation was fabricated by a local news correspondent in the early 20th century.
“Fishing place at the boundaries, neutral meeting grounds” has been put forth as a more likely translation.
It looks to me like it is the "put forth" version that was a put-on, in a misguided attempt to make the Nimpuc
[who obviously weren't consulted, if any fluent descendants even exist] look more sophisticated
than the "popular culture" would have it. Note that there are three natural syntactic parts to the word,
and the first two parts have "ggagogg" in common. The "put forth" translation has only two natural semantic parts.
"Not surprisingly, the lake is commonly called Webster Lake. It is the second largest natural body of water in Massachusetts."
The following Britannica entry makes no mention of the "put forth" version:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Webster-Massachusetts#ref1112908
Something for the record books: the Nipmuc name of Webster Lake may be the longest place name in the USA,
but a famous community in Wales has it beat by 9, count 'em, nine letters: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Chargoggagoggmanchauggauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
The typescript is deceptive: the Welsh names have shorter letters on the whole and the script squeezes
the shorter ones together. If you copy these into a plain text file, it will make for easier comparison.
With Microsoft plain text typescript the spacing of letters is consistent;
you just have to make sure that the words match letter for letter as far as they go, and then count the surplus.
On the other hand, there is a song that tells us how to pronounce the name of that Welsh word, but it cheats by shortening it:
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrngogogoch
according to which it loses to that Massachusetts lake by 9, count 'em, nine letters. But even so, the notorious word
antidisestablishmentarianism loses out by 12 letters to the shorter version.
You and I couldn't run parallel for even one post.
Peter Nyikos
MV is a aquamarine mermaid in disguise.
Are those the initials of the person whose masked email address is
littor...@gmail.com ?
That reminded me of an analogy that was in an IQ test, but which really was ca.10% intelligence
and 90% vocabulary:
sea : littoral :: river : ____________
I posed this to Mario earlier this month, but he didn't even realize it was an analogy question. He hadn't
run across this use of colons before. And he confessed that he couldn't have figured it out even with that
realization. Neither could I, when I first saw the test; it was only years later that I happened across the
right word, but once I knew its meaning, I knew it had to fit.
Peter Nyikos
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