• OT: Cleaning up knotty pine walls

    From Michael@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 13 19:51:56 2024
    Advice needed. I removed a backless storage unit from our front room because I want the space. But because of the many things used for storage over the years, the knotty pine behind it is pretty beat up. I don't want to sand it because it will have a different patina than the rest of the wall. Has anyone had any luck "sprucing" up worn and scratched up pine? What products did you use?

    Thanks!


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  • From hubops@ccanoemail.com@21:1/5 to michaelspamaccount@yahoo.com on Tue Aug 13 17:09:07 2024
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:51:56 -0000 (UTC), Michael <michaelspamaccount@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Advice needed. I removed a backless storage unit from our front room because I >want the space. But because of the many things used for storage over the years,
    the knotty pine behind it is pretty beat up. I don't want to sand it because it
    will have a different patina than the rest of the wall. Has anyone had any luck
    "sprucing" up worn and scratched up pine? What products did you use?
    Thanks!



    I once used xtra fine steel wool on an old roll top desk -
    it cleaned off the decades of grime build-up and didn't seem
    to do any harm. A little danish oil afterwards and I was pleased.
    As with any finishing / re-finishing jobs - it's best to try a
    small area first.
    John T.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to hubops@ccanoemail.com on Tue Aug 13 22:09:09 2024
    hubops@ccanoemail.com writes:
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:51:56 -0000 (UTC), Michael ><michaelspamaccount@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Advice needed. I removed a backless storage unit from our front room because I
    want the space. But because of the many things used for storage over the years,
    the knotty pine behind it is pretty beat up. I don't want to sand it because it
    will have a different patina than the rest of the wall. Has anyone had any luck
    "sprucing" up worn and scratched up pine? What products did you use? >>Thanks!



    I once used xtra fine steel wool on an old roll top desk -
    it cleaned off the decades of grime build-up and didn't seem
    to do any harm. A little danish oil afterwards and I was pleased.
    As with any finishing / re-finishing jobs - it's best to try a
    small area first.
    John T.

    It really depends on what the existing finish on the pine wall is. If it is
    a film finish (varnish, poly), it will be difficult to repair invisibly. An oil
    finish can be cleaned (as you note with 0000 steel wool and a solvent
    such as turps or mineral spirits) and re-oiled. Shellac can be cleaned with alcohol and re-applied.

    Murphy's oil soap might work if the damage isn't too severe.

    Howard's feed-n-wax can also be useful in some cases.

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to "scott@slp53.sl.home on Wed Aug 21 19:17:27 2024
    In reply to "scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)" who wrote the following:

    hubops@ccanoemail.com writes:
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:51:56 -0000 (UTC), Michael <michaelspamaccount@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Advice needed. I removed a backless storage unit from our front room because I
    want the space. But because of the many things used for storage over the years,
    the knotty pine behind it is pretty beat up. I don't want to sand it because it
    will have a different patina than the rest of the wall. Has anyone had any
    luck
    "sprucing" up worn and scratched up pine? What products did you use? Thanks!



    I once used xtra fine steel wool on an old roll top desk -
    it cleaned off the decades of grime build-up and didn't seem
    to do any harm. A little danish oil afterwards and I was pleased.
    As with any finishing / re-finishing jobs - it's best to try a
    small area first.
    John T.

    It really depends on what the existing finish on the pine wall is. If it is a film finish (varnish, poly), it will be difficult to repair invisibly. An oil
    finish can be cleaned (as you note with 0000 steel wool and a solvent
    such as turps or mineral spirits) and re-oiled. Shellac can be cleaned with alcohol and re-applied.

    Murphy's oil soap might work if the damage isn't too severe.

    Howard's feed-n-wax can also be useful in some cases.

    Thanks, John T. and Scott! I will definitely give these a try. The finish is probably shellac. The knotty pine has a dull glow patina.

    Another question: Can I combine stains to try to approximate the color of the patina on the current walls? I.e., mixing dark and light stain to try to get the
    right color? Do stains work that way?

    Thanks!


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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Michael on Wed Aug 21 22:43:40 2024
    Michael <michaelspamaccount@yahoo.com> writes:
    In reply to "scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)" who wrote the following:

    hubops@ccanoemail.com writes:
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:51:56 -0000 (UTC), Michael
    <michaelspamaccount@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Advice needed. I removed a backless storage unit from our front room
    because I
    want the space. But because of the many things used for storage over the >> > > years,
    the knotty pine behind it is pretty beat up. I don't want to sand it
    because it
    will have a different patina than the rest of the wall. Has anyone had any
    luck
    "sprucing" up worn and scratched up pine? What products did you use?
    Thanks!



    I once used xtra fine steel wool on an old roll top desk -
    it cleaned off the decades of grime build-up and didn't seem
    to do any harm. A little danish oil afterwards and I was pleased.
    As with any finishing / re-finishing jobs - it's best to try a
    small area first.
    John T.

    It really depends on what the existing finish on the pine wall is. If it is >> a film finish (varnish, poly), it will be difficult to repair invisibly. An >> oil
    finish can be cleaned (as you note with 0000 steel wool and a solvent
    such as turps or mineral spirits) and re-oiled. Shellac can be cleaned with >> alcohol and re-applied.

    Murphy's oil soap might work if the damage isn't too severe.

    Howard's feed-n-wax can also be useful in some cases.

    Thanks, John T. and Scott! I will definitely give these a try. The finish is >probably shellac. The knotty pine has a dull glow patina.

    Another question: Can I combine stains to try to approximate the color of the >patina on the current walls? I.e., mixing dark and light stain to try to get the
    right color? Do stains work that way?

    Thanks!


    Yes, with most stains (check with the manufacturer) you can mix
    stains to obtain a desirable shade. Make sure the stain is
    compatable with the topcote.

    https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Wood-Finishing-Comprehensive-Troubleshooting/dp/1565235665

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to "scott@slp53.sl.home on Fri Aug 23 04:57:15 2024
    In reply to "scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)" who wrote the following:

    Michael <michaelspamaccount@yahoo.com> writes:
    In reply to "scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)" who wrote the following:

    hubops@ccanoemail.com writes:
    On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:51:56 -0000 (UTC), Michael <michaelspamaccount@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Advice needed. I removed a backless storage unit from our front room because I
    want the space. But because of the many things used for storage over the
    years,
    the knotty pine behind it is pretty beat up. I don't want to sand it because it
    will have a different patina than the rest of the wall. Has anyone had
    any
    luck
    "sprucing" up worn and scratched up pine? What products did you use? Thanks!



    I once used xtra fine steel wool on an old roll top desk -
    it cleaned off the decades of grime build-up and didn't seem
    to do any harm. A little danish oil afterwards and I was pleased.
    As with any finishing / re-finishing jobs - it's best to try a
    small area first.
    John T.

    It really depends on what the existing finish on the pine wall is. If it is
    a film finish (varnish, poly), it will be difficult to repair invisibly. An
    oil
    finish can be cleaned (as you note with 0000 steel wool and a solvent such as turps or mineral spirits) and re-oiled. Shellac can be cleaned with
    alcohol and re-applied.

    Murphy's oil soap might work if the damage isn't too severe.

    Howard's feed-n-wax can also be useful in some cases.

    Thanks, John T. and Scott! I will definitely give these a try. The finish is
    probably shellac. The knotty pine has a dull glow patina.

    Another question: Can I combine stains to try to approximate the color of the
    patina on the current walls? I.e., mixing dark and light stain to try to get
    the
    right color? Do stains work that way?

    Thanks!


    Yes, with most stains (check with the manufacturer) you can mix
    stains to obtain a desirable shade. Make sure the stain is
    compatable with the topcote.

    https://www.amazon.com/ Understanding-Wood-Finishing-Comprehensive-Troubleshooting/dp/1565235665

    Much thanks!




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