• What are they...and how would you use them?

    From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 16:14:12 2023
    I picked these up at an estate give-away. (family didn't want to bother with
    a sale) The original owner was a DIY furniture maker. I have an idea as to
    what they might be and how they might be used, but I'd like to hear what
    you folks think.

    34" L x 5.5" W x 5" H. Tops and bottoms are 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood, supports are 3/4" particle board. Holes in the tops only. Very nicely made,
    very sturdy.

    https://i.imgur.com/3eORnP3.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/CQJeVrJ.jpg

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Tue Oct 31 23:17:09 2023
    DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
    I picked these up at an estate give-away. (family didn't want to bother with >a sale) The original owner was a DIY furniture maker. I have an idea as to >what they might be and how they might be used, but I'd like to hear what
    you folks think.

    34" L x 5.5" W x 5" H. Tops and bottoms are 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood, supports are 3/4" particle board. Holes in the tops only. Very nicely made,
    very sturdy.

    https://i.imgur.com/3eORnP3.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/CQJeVrJ.jpg


    Look like a jig or a clamping fixture.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Tue Oct 31 18:08:41 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 7:17:15 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
    I picked these up at an estate give-away. (family didn't want to bother with
    a sale) The original owner was a DIY furniture maker. I have an idea as to >what they might be and how they might be used, but I'd like to hear what >you folks think.

    34" L x 5.5" W x 5" H. Tops and bottoms are 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood, supports are 3/4" particle board. Holes in the tops only. Very nicely made,
    very sturdy.

    https://i.imgur.com/3eORnP3.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/CQJeVrJ.jpg
    Look like a jig or a clamping fixture.

    That was my original thought, but now I'm not so sure. The internal supports are almost flush with the sides of the oval openings. Clamps could only be used at the rounded ends of the holes. Sure seems like that would limit their functionality. In addition, while the tops (holed surface) have obvious wear marks,
    the underside of the tops, where the clamps would make contact, are pristine. You can still see the pencil marks from when the openings were laid out.

    https://i.imgur.com/nHJjhPp.jpg?1

    I also found this stamped on the bottom of both units, indicting that they might
    not be homemade. (They were hung on the wall via the hole seen in this image.)

    DBW011

    https://i.imgur.com/QglJyFZ.jpg

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 18:28:06 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 9:08:44 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:


    I also found this stamped on the bottom of both units, indicting that they might
    not be homemade. (They were hung on the wall via the hole seen in this image.)
    DBW011

    https://i.imgur.com/QglJyFZ.jpg

    I did some sleuthing and found out that the owner's initials were DBW, so it's possible that they were homemade, although that's not a certainty.

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  • From DJ Delorie@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 23:40:16 2023
    I have one of those that's six feet long. I call it a "megafence" and
    clamp it to my table saw fence for cutting sheets of plywood.

    Those, however, look like they could be jigs for finish routing drawer
    pulls (drill work, clamp work on top, route into holes). Or just
    something to prop up work on.

    Or the handles are for carrying, and the exposed edges are for clamping?

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to DJ Delorie on Wed Nov 1 00:23:14 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:40:31 PM UTC-4, DJ Delorie wrote:
    I have one of those that's six feet long. I call it a "megafence" and
    clamp it to my table saw fence for cutting sheets of plywood.

    Those, however, look like they could be jigs for finish routing drawer
    pulls (drill work, clamp work on top, route into holes).

    That’s a thought, although as I mentioned earlier, there is no
    evidence on the underside of the holed surface that clamps
    were ever used. Not near the end holes or along the outside
    edges. I can’t see under the center hole but I doubt that that’s
    the only hole that was ever used for clamping.

    Or just something to prop up work on.

    That thought has entered my mind. Something like a table top
    saw horse. Pretty fancy/heavy duty though.


    Or the handles are for carrying, and the exposed edges are for clamping?

    Again, the underside of the holed surface is perfectly clean. I’d
    expect to see some indication of clamp use on the underside. The
    underside isn’t as smoothly sanded and there’s no finish on it, so
    I’d expect that it would at least show some dirt if it had been used
    for clamping. If that’s what I use them for I’ll know soon enough
    if the clamps leave evidence.

    Of course, 3 handles on each seems like overkill, but they do make
    them look nice. ;-)

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  • From Casper@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 09:50:23 2023
    DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> was heard to mutter:

    I picked these up at an estate give-away. (family didn't want to bother with >a sale) The original owner was a DIY furniture maker. I have an idea as to >what they might be and how they might be used, but I'd like to hear what
    you folks think.

    34" L x 5.5" W x 5" H. Tops and bottoms are 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood, supports are 3/4" particle board. Holes in the tops only. Very nicely made,
    very sturdy.

    https://i.imgur.com/3eORnP3.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/CQJeVrJ.jpg


    Reminds me of a guy who needed his woodworking shop to be mobile. He
    custom built the inside of his work van to accomodate everything he
    needed. He made sure to leave tons of space in the center for loading
    up lumber and such to take to site.

    This is something similar to what he did but his was better. https://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2011/09/09/the-ultimate-work-bench/

    His work table looked a lot like those pieces when on their side. He
    could run cables, wires, hoses, etc., all through the openings and not
    have them in his way on-site.

    Not sure you've got the same thing since yours see, smaller/shorter
    but darn close to how his worktable looked. Supports like that made it
    really strong but still ight enough for him to move around by himself.

    2 cents..
    `Casper

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Casper on Wed Nov 1 14:03:03 2023
    Casper <casper@ghostmail.cc> writes:
    DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> was heard to mutter:

    I picked these up at an estate give-away. (family didn't want to bother with >>a sale) The original owner was a DIY furniture maker. I have an idea as to >>what they might be and how they might be used, but I'd like to hear what >>you folks think.

    34" L x 5.5" W x 5" H. Tops and bottoms are 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood, supports are 3/4" particle board. Holes in the tops only. Very nicely made,
    very sturdy.

    https://i.imgur.com/3eORnP3.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/CQJeVrJ.jpg


    Reminds me of a guy who needed his woodworking shop to be mobile. He
    custom built the inside of his work van to accomodate everything he
    needed. He made sure to leave tons of space in the center for loading
    up lumber and such to take to site.

    This is something similar to what he did but his was better. >https://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2011/09/09/the-ultimate-work-bench/

    Interesting, but that bench is a dust collector to be sure.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Thu Nov 2 05:06:43 2023
    On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 10:03:09 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Casper <cas...@ghostmail.cc> writes:
    DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> was heard to mutter:

    I picked these up at an estate give-away. (family didn't want to bother with
    a sale) The original owner was a DIY furniture maker. I have an idea as to >>what they might be and how they might be used, but I'd like to hear what >>you folks think.

    34" L x 5.5" W x 5" H. Tops and bottoms are 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood, supports are 3/4" particle board. Holes in the tops only. Very nicely made,
    very sturdy.

    https://i.imgur.com/3eORnP3.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/CQJeVrJ.jpg


    Reminds me of a guy who needed his woodworking shop to be mobile. He >custom built the inside of his work van to accomodate everything he >needed. He made sure to leave tons of space in the center for loading
    up lumber and such to take to site.

    This is something similar to what he did but his was better. >https://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2011/09/09/the-ultimate-work-bench/ Interesting, but that bench is a dust collector to be sure.

    Ask Leon. I believe that he built one. If I recall correctly, he stores his in a corner
    of his workshop when he's not using them, so they are sort of "self cleaning". ;-)

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Casper on Thu Nov 2 05:04:36 2023
    On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:50:30 AM UTC-4, Casper wrote:
    DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> was heard to mutter:
    I picked these up at an estate give-away. (family didn't want to bother with
    a sale) The original owner was a DIY furniture maker. I have an idea as to >what they might be and how they might be used, but I'd like to hear what >you folks think.

    34" L x 5.5" W x 5" H. Tops and bottoms are 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood, supports are 3/4" particle board. Holes in the tops only. Very nicely made,
    very sturdy.

    https://i.imgur.com/3eORnP3.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/CQJeVrJ.jpg
    Reminds me of a guy who needed his woodworking shop to be mobile. He
    custom built the inside of his work van to accomodate everything he
    needed. He made sure to leave tons of space in the center for loading
    up lumber and such to take to site.

    This is something similar to what he did but his was better. https://www.thisiscarpentry.com/2011/09/09/the-ultimate-work-bench/

    His work table looked a lot like those pieces when on their side. He
    could run cables, wires, hoses, etc., all through the openings and not
    have them in his way on-site.

    Not sure you've got the same thing since yours see, smaller/shorter
    but darn close to how his worktable looked. Supports like that made it really strong but still ight enough for him to move around by himself.

    2 cents..
    `Casper

    The openings on mine are only on one surface. Since they are on the only surface with wear marks, I believe it to be the top surface. Yes, you could run
    cables through the long way, but I don't see any advantage to running
    cables through the ovals as you would on a Paulk workbench since the
    "bottom" is solid.

    In addition, if they were placed on their side you would have a smooth,
    flat surface on top.

    FWIW, I did notice that they looked similar to the sides of a Paulk
    workbench but I've come to believe that it's just the look that's
    similar, not the use.

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  • From Sonny@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 2 08:36:56 2023
    Might this be what they are? https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/shop-organization/uplifting-benchtop-risers

    Sonny

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Sonny on Thu Nov 2 14:41:10 2023
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 11:36:59 AM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
    Might this be what they are? https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/shop-organization/uplifting-benchtop-risers

    Sonny


    Ding! Ding! Ding! I think we have a winner.

    And since I'm about to assemble 2 base cabinets, they will be put to use as shown in
    the first image. At least I'll give them a try in that manner.

    However, I'm still curious as to why the ones I have show absolutely so indication that
    clamps have come in contact with areas shown at the link you provided. I'll know within
    the next 24 - 48 hours if *my* clamps leave marks. Maybe the previous owner used them
    differently.

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  • From Sonny@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 2 15:32:17 2023
    Or made some to sell, alongside his furniture, at the local fair. Or just not used often. Its a simple neat project for left over or scrap lumber.

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  • From Sonny@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 2 15:21:31 2023
    The original owner was a DIY furniture maker.

    Nice furniture clamping requires padding on clamps so as not to mar the wood. Original owner may have considered nice jigs, as that, needs some TLC also. He obviously took care to make nice jigs.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Fri Nov 3 02:03:31 2023
    DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 11:36:59=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
    Might this be what they are?=20
    https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/shop-organization/upliftin= >g-benchtop-risers=20
    =20
    Sonny


    Ding! Ding! Ding! I think we have a winner.

    And since I'm about to assemble 2 base cabinets, they will be put to use as=
    shown in=20
    the first image. At least I'll give them a try in that manner.

    However, I'm still curious as to why the ones I have show absolutely so ind= >ication that=20
    clamps have come in contact with areas shown at the link you provided.

    K-Body and other parallel bar clamps will not leave marks, as is
    the case for quick-clamp or f-clamps with pads.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Thu Nov 2 20:10:02 2023
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 10:03:36 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 11:36:59=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
    Might this be what they are?=20
    https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/shop-organization/upliftin=
    g-benchtop-risers=20
    =20
    Sonny


    Ding! Ding! Ding! I think we have a winner.

    And since I'm about to assemble 2 base cabinets, they will be put to use as=
    shown in=20
    the first image. At least I'll give them a try in that manner.

    However, I'm still curious as to why the ones I have show absolutely so ind=
    ication that=20
    clamps have come in contact with areas shown at the link you provided. K-Body and other parallel bar clamps will not leave marks, as is
    the case for quick-clamp or f-clamps with pads.

    I'd expect to see *some* indication of use. The undersides are not sanded smooth or finished. I'd expect that the rough-ish surface would pick up dirt
    or some kind of marks. Maybe not...we'll see.

    FWIW I don't think they can be used with K-Bodies. At least not the risers that I have. The jaws wouldn't fit through the ovals or the open ends. The long sides only extend past the supports by an inch and I don't think I'd
    want my Revos hanging on by just an inch. They're not the lightest clamps
    in the world . ;-)

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  • From Clare Snyder@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Thu Nov 2 23:18:31 2023
    On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:41:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 11:36:59?AM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
    Might this be what they are?
    https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/shop-organization/uplifting-benchtop-risers

    Sonny


    Ding! Ding! Ding! I think we have a winner.

    And since I'm about to assemble 2 base cabinets, they will be put to use as shown in
    the first image. At least I'll give them a try in that manner.

    However, I'm still curious as to why the ones I have show absolutely so indication that
    clamps have come in contact with areas shown at the link you provided. I'll know within
    the next 24 - 48 hours if *my* clamps leave marks. Maybe the previous owner used them
    differently.
    Maybee he was realy anal and used sacrificial "shims" under the clamps

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Fri Nov 3 07:07:23 2023
    On 11/2/2023 10:03 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 11:36:59=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
    Might this be what they are?=20
    https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/shop-organization/upliftin= >> g-benchtop-risers=20
    =20
    Sonny


    Ding! Ding! Ding! I think we have a winner.

    And since I'm about to assemble 2 base cabinets, they will be put to use as= >> shown in=20
    the first image. At least I'll give them a try in that manner.

    However, I'm still curious as to why the ones I have show absolutely so ind= >> ication that=20
    clamps have come in contact with areas shown at the link you provided.

    K-Body and other parallel bar clamps will not leave marks, as is
    the case for quick-clamp or f-clamps with pads.

    Concerned with this very issue , I wrapped a towel around the end of an
    f-clamp last week--and its use left no marks! I'm not sure about the
    physics of the resultant clamping force, but it was not an issue in my application.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Tue Nov 14 09:00:32 2023
    On 11/2/2023 9:03 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 11:36:59=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
    Might this be what they are?=20
    https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-plans/shop-organization/upliftin= >> g-benchtop-risers=20
    =20
    Sonny


    Ding! Ding! Ding! I think we have a winner.

    And since I'm about to assemble 2 base cabinets, they will be put to use as= >> shown in=20
    the first image. At least I'll give them a try in that manner.

    However, I'm still curious as to why the ones I have show absolutely so ind= >> ication that=20
    clamps have come in contact with areas shown at the link you provided.

    K-Body and other parallel bar clamps will not leave marks, as is
    the case for quick-clamp or f-clamps with pads.


    Actually my Jet K-body clamps do leave marks, unlike my Cabinet master
    and Bessey clamps.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 14 20:08:12 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 7:14:15 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    I picked these up at an estate give-away. (family didn't want to bother with a sale) The original owner was a DIY furniture maker. I have an idea as to what they might be and how they might be used, but I'd like to hear what
    you folks think.

    34" L x 5.5" W x 5" H. Tops and bottoms are 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood, supports are 3/4" particle board. Holes in the tops only. Very nicely made,
    very sturdy.

    https://i.imgur.com/3eORnP3.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/CQJeVrJ.jpg

    I used the risers while building 2 base cabinets this weekend.
    Very useful. Raising the workpieces off of the assembly table
    to get clamps underneath the carcass or drawer and/or to keep
    workpiece from moving made assembly much easier.

    However, if I were to build my own, I’d make the “overhang” on each
    side about a half inch wider. The heads of my F clamps barely fit on
    the clamping surface, especially the ones with slip on pads. I’d prefer
    not to have to struggle with or choose a specific clamp. I’d prefer that
    all my F style clamps, be they old school bar clamps or trigger clamps,
    all fit easily so it doesn’t matter what I grab.

    As far as my earlier comments about the fact that the undersides did not
    look like they ever had clamps attached to them, even though the top
    surface indicated that they had been used regularly, one of two things may
    have occurred:

    Either the original owner never clamped anything to the risers or he protected the underside very, very well.

    After just the limited usage this weekend, I can already see marks - mainly smudge marks from the pads on my clamps - on the undersides of the edges.
    They went from looking pristine to looking used in just a couple of days.

    In any case, they helped and I’m sure I’ll be using them more in the future. They
    are certainly more stable and convenient than the blocks of wood I usually use to lift a workpiece off of my assembly table.

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