• Re: OT: Battery Operated - riding mowers

    From hubops@ccanoemail.ca@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 12 17:58:27 2021
    .. speaking of battery operated . . .
    I saw lithium ion Cub Cadet riding mower in a showroom
    today when kicking tires on new/used riding mowers.
    ps - there's a bit of a shortage here-abouts < who knew >

    https://www.cubcadet.ca/en/electric-lawn-mowers/xt1-lt42e/33ABA7ES596.html#start=0

    I think that there's some serious flaws in the marketing
    of these .. over $ 6. grand and it looked like the
    cheapo _thin_ stamped steel deck ; and low-end quality
    in everything else .. I'll pass. Even though I'd love to
    have a decent quality battery rider to consider ..

    $ 6. grand at Home Depot gets a Ryobi zero turn with better
    run-time < 100 amp-hours > but 1 year battery warranty ! Yikes !
    < Cub Cadet = 4 years the battery costs ~ $ 2. grand >

    https://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-42-inch-100-ah-battery-electric-zero-turn-riding-mower/1001528341

    Without doing any detailed math - considering the :
    1. purchase cost
    2. battery life
    3. battery replacement cost
    4. cheap construction

    .. correct me if I missed something - these things have
    ~ zero value after about 6 - 8 years .. < or sooner >
    OK you saved maybe $ 400. in dino-juice <?> ;
    and get to shine your Green Merit Badge .. but ..
    .. really ?

    I do hope to repair my trusty 30+ year-old WheelHorse..
    eventually .. < I think it's a head gasket >
    but the grass refuses to wait for me .. it just keeps growing !

    John T. paid-up Green Party member

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to hubops@ccanoemail.ca on Tue Oct 12 20:36:57 2021
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:58:27 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:


    .. speaking of battery operated . . .
    I saw lithium ion Cub Cadet riding mower in a showroom
    today when kicking tires on new/used riding mowers.
    ps - there's a bit of a shortage here-abouts < who knew >

    https://www.cubcadet.ca/en/electric-lawn-mowers/xt1-lt42e/33ABA7ES596.html#start=0

    I think that there's some serious flaws in the marketing
    of these .. over $ 6. grand and it looked like the
    cheapo _thin_ stamped steel deck ; and low-end quality
    in everything else .. I'll pass. Even though I'd love to
    have a decent quality battery rider to consider ..

    $ 6. grand at Home Depot gets a Ryobi zero turn with better
    run-time < 100 amp-hours > but 1 year battery warranty ! Yikes !
    < Cub Cadet = 4 years the battery costs ~ $ 2. grand >

    https://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-42-inch-100-ah-battery-electric-zero-turn-riding-mower/1001528341

    Without doing any detailed math - considering the :
    1. purchase cost
    2. battery life
    3. battery replacement cost
    4. cheap construction

    .. correct me if I missed something - these things have
    ~ zero value after about 6 - 8 years .. < or sooner >
    OK you saved maybe $ 400. in dino-juice <?> ;
    and get to shine your Green Merit Badge .. but ..
    .. really ?

    I do hope to repair my trusty 30+ year-old WheelHorse..
    eventually .. < I think it's a head gasket >
    but the grass refuses to wait for me .. it just keeps growing !

    John T. paid-up Green Party member

    You might want to check into the weather resistance ratings on them.
    Leave some of those electrics out in a rainstorm and you may have
    reduced them to boat anchors.

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  • From hubops@ccanoemail.ca@21:1/5 to jclarke.873638@gmail.com on Tue Oct 12 20:49:11 2021
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:36:57 -0400, J. Clarke
    <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:58:27 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:


    .. speaking of battery operated . . .
    I saw lithium ion Cub Cadet riding mower in a showroom
    today when kicking tires on new/used riding mowers.
    ps - there's a bit of a shortage here-abouts < who knew >
    https://www.cubcadet.ca/en/electric-lawn-mowers/xt1-lt42e/33ABA7ES596.html#start=0

    I think that there's some serious flaws in the marketing
    of these .. over $ 6. grand and it looked like the
    cheapo _thin_ stamped steel deck ; and low-end quality
    in everything else .. I'll pass. Even though I'd love to
    have a decent quality battery rider to consider ..

    $ 6. grand at Home Depot gets a Ryobi zero turn with better
    run-time < 100 amp-hours > but 1 year battery warranty ! Yikes !
    < Cub Cadet = 4 years the battery costs ~ $ 2. grand >
    https://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-42-inch-100-ah-battery-electric-zero-turn-riding-mower/1001528341

    Without doing any detailed math - considering the :
    1. purchase cost
    2. battery life
    3. battery replacement cost
    4. cheap construction

    .. correct me if I missed something - these things have
    ~ zero value after about 6 - 8 years .. < or sooner >
    OK you saved maybe $ 400. in dino-juice <?> ;
    and get to shine your Green Merit Badge .. but ..
    .. really ?

    I do hope to repair my trusty 30+ year-old WheelHorse..
    eventually .. < I think it's a head gasket >
    but the grass refuses to wait for me .. it just keeps growing !

    John T. paid-up Green Party member

    You might want to check into the weather resistance ratings on them.
    Leave some of those electrics out in a rainstorm and you may have
    reduced them to boat anchors.


    OK. " weather resistance ratings "

    ... for lawn mowers ...

    I'll look into that ..

    It's hard to know where to start looking -

    .. care to post a link or two ?

    Take your time.

    John T.

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to hubops@ccanoemail.ca on Tue Oct 12 21:24:08 2021
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:49:11 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:36:57 -0400, J. Clarke
    <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:58:27 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:


    .. speaking of battery operated . . .
    I saw lithium ion Cub Cadet riding mower in a showroom
    today when kicking tires on new/used riding mowers.
    ps - there's a bit of a shortage here-abouts < who knew >
    https://www.cubcadet.ca/en/electric-lawn-mowers/xt1-lt42e/33ABA7ES596.html#start=0

    I think that there's some serious flaws in the marketing
    of these .. over $ 6. grand and it looked like the
    cheapo _thin_ stamped steel deck ; and low-end quality
    in everything else .. I'll pass. Even though I'd love to
    have a decent quality battery rider to consider ..

    $ 6. grand at Home Depot gets a Ryobi zero turn with better >>>run-time < 100 amp-hours > but 1 year battery warranty ! Yikes !
    < Cub Cadet = 4 years the battery costs ~ $ 2. grand >
    https://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-42-inch-100-ah-battery-electric-zero-turn-riding-mower/1001528341

    Without doing any detailed math - considering the :
    1. purchase cost
    2. battery life
    3. battery replacement cost
    4. cheap construction

    .. correct me if I missed something - these things have
    ~ zero value after about 6 - 8 years .. < or sooner >
    OK you saved maybe $ 400. in dino-juice <?> ;
    and get to shine your Green Merit Badge .. but ..
    .. really ?

    I do hope to repair my trusty 30+ year-old WheelHorse..
    eventually .. < I think it's a head gasket >
    but the grass refuses to wait for me .. it just keeps growing !

    John T. paid-up Green Party member

    You might want to check into the weather resistance ratings on them.
    Leave some of those electrics out in a rainstorm and you may have
    reduced them to boat anchors.


    OK. " weather resistance ratings "

    ... for lawn mowers ...

    I'll look into that ..

    It's hard to know where to start looking -

    .. care to post a link or two ?

    Take your time.

    Ego is IPX4 rated.
    <https://egopowerplus.com/zero-turn-riding-mower-zt4204l/>
    For a rundown on the IP codes, see
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code>. If you want to see the
    actual spec you can buy it from
    <https://webstore.iec.ch/publication/2447> for several hundred bucks.

    Cub Cadet says "Never douse or hose the tractor with water. Avoid
    getting
    any liquid in the motors and electrical connections. Clean the
    tractor after each use. Refer to Service and Maintenance. Do
    not use solvents or strong detergents." <file:///I:/Downloads/Home%20Improvement/769-25913e.pdf> page 5.


    The Ryobi has a label on it:
    "Do not expose mower to rain or damp locations" <https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/dc/dce36310-960c-4eaf-bfad-05c51c222ed5.pdf>
    Page 10.

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