• OT - OMG Has Anyone Bought Wire Lately?

    From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 31 15:08:18 2023
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise
    six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough
    wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code
    anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck
    going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter
    in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking
    it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city
    HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even
    the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.

    Had I known the price was so high, I would have ordered it on Amazon
    for $90 earlier in the week. It probably would have shown up in an
    armored truck. ;-)

    (UF-B is actually cheaper than NM-B right now, but I hear that it's harder
    to work with and I'll be dealing with some with tight spaces. If anyone
    knows that it's *not* harder to work with, let me know - quickly. Maybe
    I'll exchange the NM-B for UF-B.)

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 1 11:23:32 2023
    On 3/31/2023 18:08, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise
    six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough
    wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck
    going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter
    in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking
    it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city
    HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even
    the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.

    Had I known the price was so high, I would have ordered it on Amazon
    for $90 earlier in the week. It probably would have shown up in an
    armored truck. ;-)

    (UF-B is actually cheaper than NM-B right now, but I hear that it's harder
    to work with and I'll be dealing with some with tight spaces. If anyone
    knows that it's *not* harder to work with, let me know - quickly. Maybe
    I'll exchange the NM-B for UF-B.)

    It was expensive last time I bought a roll about a year ago, but not
    *that* expensive. Larger rolls were locked up, but smaller rolls
    weren't, and they let you take it into your cart... That's just
    madness. For small projects, I keep a 5 gal buck or two of romex
    "chunks" from a foot up to 12 feet or so.

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sat Apr 1 12:23:55 2023
    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 10:23:29 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 3/31/2023 18:08, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you
    know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking
    it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They
    have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city
    HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even
    the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.

    Had I known the price was so high, I would have ordered it on Amazon
    for $90 earlier in the week. It probably would have shown up in an
    armored truck. ;-)

    (UF-B is actually cheaper than NM-B right now, but I hear that it's harder to work with and I'll be dealing with some with tight spaces. If anyone knows that it's *not* harder to work with, let me know - quickly. Maybe I'll exchange the NM-B for UF-B.)
    It was expensive last time I bought a roll about a year ago, but not
    *that* expensive. Larger rolls were locked up, but smaller rolls
    weren't, and they let you take it into your cart... That's just
    madness. For small projects, I keep a 5 gal buck or two of romex
    "chunks" from a foot up to 12 feet or so.

    Yep. I rewired lights in the basement, and I also felt the sticker shock at the price of romex. I wish I had kept the leftovers from past projects Like Michael Trew.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 1 18:08:13 2023
    On 3/31/2023 5:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise
    six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough
    wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck
    going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter
    in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking
    it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city
    HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even
    the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.

    Had I known the price was so high, I would have ordered it on Amazon
    for $90 earlier in the week. It probably would have shown up in an
    armored truck. ;-)

    (UF-B is actually cheaper than NM-B right now, but I hear that it's harder
    to work with and I'll be dealing with some with tight spaces. If anyone
    knows that it's *not* harder to work with, let me know - quickly. Maybe
    I'll exchange the NM-B for UF-B.)


    I noticed that yesterday in Home Depot, the locked up wire.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Leon on Sat Apr 1 23:26:38 2023
    Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
    On 3/31/2023 5:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise
    six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough
    wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code
    anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck
    going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter
    in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you
    know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking
    it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They >> have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city
    HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even
    the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.

    Or perhaps the thieves just go to the affluent areas hoping for
    lighter security. Seems there isn't much evidence to accuse rich
    folks /contractors of theft here.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Sat Apr 1 16:41:51 2023
    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 7:26:43 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
    On 3/31/2023 5:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise >> six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough
    wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code
    anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck >> going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter >> in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you
    know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking
    it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They
    have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city
    HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even
    the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.
    Or perhaps the thieves just go to the affluent areas hoping for
    lighter security. Seems there isn't much evidence to accuse rich
    folks /contractors of theft here.

    Nor to accuse the thieves of traveling. Just speculation from both
    of us. Either way, it’s still a PITA.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Sat Apr 1 19:05:25 2023
    On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 16:42:21 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 7:08:27?PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 3/31/2023 5:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise >> > six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough
    wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code
    anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck
    going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter >> > in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you
    know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking
    it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They
    have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city
    HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even
    the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.

    Had I known the price was so high, I would have ordered it on Amazon
    for $90 earlier in the week. It probably would have shown up in an
    armored truck. ;-)

    (UF-B is actually cheaper than NM-B right now, but I hear that it's harder >> > to work with and I'll be dealing with some with tight spaces. If anyone
    knows that it's *not* harder to work with, let me know - quickly. Maybe
    I'll exchange the NM-B for UF-B.)
    I noticed that yesterday in Home Depot, the locked up wire.

    Locked up *and* walked to the cashier. The wire basically has to be the
    last thing you buy, unless the employee is nice enough to leave it by the >cashier for you. I plan to plan better and avoid the next time.

    Thing is, you cant blame HD. Its the fn lowlifes that make it hard on >everyone else - customers and employees.

    Can you order either online or at the contractors desk and have it
    ready for pickup?

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Leon on Sat Apr 1 16:42:21 2023
    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 7:08:27 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 3/31/2023 5:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you
    know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking
    it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They
    have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city
    HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even
    the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.

    Had I known the price was so high, I would have ordered it on Amazon
    for $90 earlier in the week. It probably would have shown up in an
    armored truck. ;-)

    (UF-B is actually cheaper than NM-B right now, but I hear that it's harder to work with and I'll be dealing with some with tight spaces. If anyone knows that it's *not* harder to work with, let me know - quickly. Maybe I'll exchange the NM-B for UF-B.)
    I noticed that yesterday in Home Depot, the locked up wire.

    Locked up *and* walked to the cashier. The wire basically has to be the
    last thing you buy, unless the employee is nice enough to leave it by the cashier for you. I plan to plan better and avoid the next time.

    Thing is, you can’t blame HD. It’s the f’n lowlifes that make it hard on everyone else - customers and employees.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 1 18:31:20 2023
    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 8:05:39 PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 16:42:21 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 7:08:27?PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 3/31/2023 5:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise
    six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough >> > wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code >> > anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck >> > going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter
    in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you
    know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking >> > it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They
    have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city >> > HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even >> > the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.

    Had I known the price was so high, I would have ordered it on Amazon
    for $90 earlier in the week. It probably would have shown up in an
    armored truck. ;-)

    (UF-B is actually cheaper than NM-B right now, but I hear that it's harder
    to work with and I'll be dealing with some with tight spaces. If anyone >> > knows that it's *not* harder to work with, let me know - quickly. Maybe >> > I'll exchange the NM-B for UF-B.)
    I noticed that yesterday in Home Depot, the locked up wire.

    Locked up *and* walked to the cashier. The wire basically has to be the >last thing you buy, unless the employee is nice enough to leave it by the >cashier for you. I plan to plan better and avoid the next time.

    Thing is, you can’t blame HD. It’s the f’n lowlifes that make it hard on
    everyone else - customers and employees.
    Can you order either online or at the contractors desk and have it
    ready for pickup?

    Don’t know. I do know that I can get it cheaper elsewhere, including
    Amazon ($30 less). In this case, it just ended up that I didn’t know
    until Friday that this weekend was the best time to get this done.
    I’ll be pulling wire first thing in the morning and Amazon wouldn’t
    have gotten it here in time.

    Today was spent pulling all the old wire out and rearranging the panel
    a little.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Sat Apr 1 23:50:14 2023
    On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 18:31:20 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 8:05:39?PM UTC-4, Markem618 wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 16:42:21 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
    On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 7:08:27?PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 3/31/2023 5:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    As I prep my kitchen for a new counter top, one of the tasks is to raise
    six receptacle/switch boxes up about 2". Of course, there's not enough >> >> > wire in the boxes. Plus I need to bring one of the circuits up to code >> >> > anyway. (20A vs 15A)

    Timing wise I need (hope) to get this done this weekend, so I was stuck >> >> > going to Home Depot instead of the lighting store with the parts counter
    in the back that I usually buy this kind of stuff at.

    50' of 12-2 NM-B is $78, 100' is $109. Holy crap! (I bought the 100' 'cuz you
    know if I bought 50' I'd need 55')

    Besides the price, they keep the stuff locked up now. Besides locking >> >> > it up, they won't hand it to you after they release it from it's cage. They
    have to walk it up to the cashier for you. This wasn't some inner-city >> >> > HD. It's in one of the most affluent areas of our county. I guess even >> >> > the rich folk and/or high-end contractors steal stuff these days.

    Had I known the price was so high, I would have ordered it on Amazon
    for $90 earlier in the week. It probably would have shown up in an
    armored truck. ;-)

    (UF-B is actually cheaper than NM-B right now, but I hear that it's harder
    to work with and I'll be dealing with some with tight spaces. If anyone >> >> > knows that it's *not* harder to work with, let me know - quickly. Maybe >> >> > I'll exchange the NM-B for UF-B.)
    I noticed that yesterday in Home Depot, the locked up wire.

    Locked up *and* walked to the cashier. The wire basically has to be the
    last thing you buy, unless the employee is nice enough to leave it by the >> >cashier for you. I plan to plan better and avoid the next time.

    Thing is, you cant blame HD. Its the fn lowlifes that make it hard on
    everyone else - customers and employees.
    Can you order either online or at the contractors desk and have it
    ready for pickup?

    Dont know. I do know that I can get it cheaper elsewhere, including
    Amazon ($30 less). In this case, it just ended up that I didnt know
    until Friday that this weekend was the best time to get this done.
    Ill be pulling wire first thing in the morning and Amazon wouldnt
    have gotten it here in time.

    Today was spent pulling all the old wire out and rearranging the panel
    a little.

    Good luck and may all the wires pull smooth and easy, if not a bit of
    cussing is apropos.

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