• OT: Air Hose Reel Not Retracting All The Way

    From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 24 12:33:46 2023
    This Husky 50' Hose Reel is giving me problems.

    https://i.imgur.com/XLWAErK.jpg

    Yes, I know that it is mounted upside down. That's due to the position of
    the garage door track. Maybe that's why it's giving me problems, but it
    had been working perfectly for over 4 years. Maybe being upside down
    finally took it's toll.

    For the past few months the reel has been reluctant to pull the hose all
    the way back into the case. It doesn't appear to be evenly disbursing the
    hose across the center hub. It's kind of piling it up sloppily, so as the
    wound up hose gets "thicker" in some spots, it creates resistance that
    slows the retraction down until it eventually stops. I can tell when I try
    to pull out the hose that it's getting hung up in spots. It tends to stop retracting when there's about 3' - 4' left to go. If I pull the hose out a little,
    let it go back in, repeat, repeat, etc. I can usually get it retract fully as shown.

    AFAICT the intake guide is moving back and forth as it should. I've even
    lubed the guide and rail to see if that would help. Nope.

    Has anyone dealt with this issue? Thanks.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 25 14:53:56 2023
    On 2/24/2023 2:33 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    This Husky 50' Hose Reel is giving me problems.

    https://i.imgur.com/XLWAErK.jpg

    Yes, I know that it is mounted upside down. That's due to the position of
    the garage door track. Maybe that's why it's giving me problems, but it
    had been working perfectly for over 4 years. Maybe being upside down
    finally took it's toll.

    For the past few months the reel has been reluctant to pull the hose all
    the way back into the case. It doesn't appear to be evenly disbursing the hose across the center hub. It's kind of piling it up sloppily, so as the wound up hose gets "thicker" in some spots, it creates resistance that
    slows the retraction down until it eventually stops. I can tell when I try
    to pull out the hose that it's getting hung up in spots. It tends to stop retracting when there's about 3' - 4' left to go. If I pull the hose out a little,
    let it go back in, repeat, repeat, etc. I can usually get it retract fully as shown.

    AFAICT the intake guide is moving back and forth as it should. I've even lubed the guide and rail to see if that would help. Nope.

    Has anyone dealt with this issue? Thanks.




    Yes, I have a DeWalt, mounted correctly. It slows way down if there is pressure on the hose. The pressurized hose is stiffer and requires
    more room on the reel. Try, if you have not, releasing all the
    pressure from the hose.

    If that helps you might also try wiping the hose down with some RuGlyde
    rubber lubricant. You might find smaller containers.

    https://www.amazon.com/Ru-Glyde-Mounting-Rubber-Lubricant-Bottle/dp/B000CIJUGK/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3NIQW63PZARRG&keywords=ruglide&qid=1677358277&sprefix=ruglide%2Caps%2C1074&sr=8-2

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Leon on Sat Feb 25 15:52:32 2023
    On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 3:54:11 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 2/24/2023 2:33 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    This Husky 50' Hose Reel is giving me problems.

    https://i.imgur.com/XLWAErK.jpg

    Yes, I know that it is mounted upside down. That's due to the position of the garage door track. Maybe that's why it's giving me problems, but it had been working perfectly for over 4 years. Maybe being upside down finally took it's toll.

    For the past few months the reel has been reluctant to pull the hose all the way back into the case. It doesn't appear to be evenly disbursing the hose across the center hub. It's kind of piling it up sloppily, so as the wound up hose gets "thicker" in some spots, it creates resistance that slows the retraction down until it eventually stops. I can tell when I try to pull out the hose that it's getting hung up in spots. It tends to stop retracting when there's about 3' - 4' left to go. If I pull the hose out a little,
    let it go back in, repeat, repeat, etc. I can usually get it retract fully as
    shown.

    AFAICT the intake guide is moving back and forth as it should. I've even lubed the guide and rail to see if that would help. Nope.

    Has anyone dealt with this issue? Thanks.

    Yes, I have a DeWalt, mounted correctly. It slows way down if there is pressure on the hose. The pressurized hose is stiffer and requires
    more room on the reel. Try, if you have not, releasing all the
    pressure from the hose.

    If that helps you might also try wiping the hose down with some RuGlyde rubber lubricant. You might find smaller containers.

    https://www.amazon.com/Ru-Glyde-Mounting-Rubber-Lubricant-Bottle/dp/B000CIJUGK/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3NIQW63PZARRG&keywords=ruglide&qid=1677358277&sprefix=ruglide%2Caps%2C1074&sr=8-2

    Thanks, but it’s not pressure related. It “bunches up” on the hub
    even with no pressure plus it never displayed this issue when under
    pressure in the past.

    I’ve been watching it more closely over the past few days. It looks
    like whatever internal mechanism drives the front guide back and
    forth may be shot or out of adjustment or in need of lubrication, etc.

    The front guide does not always complete the full side to side travel. Sometimes it reverses long before it reaches the side, which cause
    more hose in certain areas than others. Eventually it piles up so thick,
    it causes too much drag and stops. IOW there’s no more clearance
    between the wound up hose and the case.

    I’ll take a look at it after I finish trimming out the room we’re renovating.
    It’ll suck if I need a new one. Not because of the cost but because I know that I won’t throw the old hose out, even though I already have enough hose to reach just about anywhere I would need it. 50’ of perfectly good air hose?
    Why would I get rid of that? ;-)

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 13:07:23 2023
    On 2/25/2023 5:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 3:54:11 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 2/24/2023 2:33 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    This Husky 50' Hose Reel is giving me problems.

    https://i.imgur.com/XLWAErK.jpg

    Yes, I know that it is mounted upside down. That's due to the position of >>> the garage door track. Maybe that's why it's giving me problems, but it
    had been working perfectly for over 4 years. Maybe being upside down
    finally took it's toll.

    For the past few months the reel has been reluctant to pull the hose all >>> the way back into the case. It doesn't appear to be evenly disbursing the >>> hose across the center hub. It's kind of piling it up sloppily, so as the >>> wound up hose gets "thicker" in some spots, it creates resistance that
    slows the retraction down until it eventually stops. I can tell when I try >>> to pull out the hose that it's getting hung up in spots. It tends to stop >>> retracting when there's about 3' - 4' left to go. If I pull the hose out a little,
    let it go back in, repeat, repeat, etc. I can usually get it retract fully as
    shown.

    AFAICT the intake guide is moving back and forth as it should. I've even >>> lubed the guide and rail to see if that would help. Nope.

    Has anyone dealt with this issue? Thanks.

    Yes, I have a DeWalt, mounted correctly. It slows way down if there is
    pressure on the hose. The pressurized hose is stiffer and requires
    more room on the reel. Try, if you have not, releasing all the
    pressure from the hose.

    If that helps you might also try wiping the hose down with some RuGlyde
    rubber lubricant. You might find smaller containers.

    https://www.amazon.com/Ru-Glyde-Mounting-Rubber-Lubricant-Bottle/dp/B000CIJUGK/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3NIQW63PZARRG&keywords=ruglide&qid=1677358277&sprefix=ruglide%2Caps%2C1074&sr=8-2

    Thanks, but it’s not pressure related. It “bunches up” on the hub
    even with no pressure plus it never displayed this issue when under
    pressure in the past.

    I’ve been watching it more closely over the past few days. It looks
    like whatever internal mechanism drives the front guide back and
    forth may be shot or out of adjustment or in need of lubrication, etc.

    Are you sure that there is a mechanism that moves the hose back and
    forth? My hose simply goes through the hole and winds, often not
    falling to an empty spot. Your hose may be winding taller in spots and hitting the inside of the case. Mine has no case.

    If the hose is dry, no longer has that slippery feel, it can stack on it
    self and not fall into the shallower spots.



    The front guide does not always complete the full side to side travel. Sometimes it reverses long before it reaches the side, which cause
    more hose in certain areas than others. Eventually it piles up so thick,
    it causes too much drag and stops. IOW there’s no more clearance
    between the wound up hose and the case.

    I’ll take a look at it after I finish trimming out the room we’re renovating.
    It’ll suck if I need a new one. Not because of the cost but because I know that I won’t throw the old hose out, even though I already have enough hose to reach just about anywhere I would need it. 50’ of perfectly good air hose?
    Why would I get rid of that? ;-)



    I would recommend an open reel. Mine is like this. https://www.amazon.com/DeWalt-DXCM024-0343-Double-Premium-Rubber/dp/B079V77834

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Leon on Sun Feb 26 12:59:12 2023
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 2/25/2023 5:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 3:54:11 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 2/24/2023 2:33 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    This Husky 50' Hose Reel is giving me problems.

    https://i.imgur.com/XLWAErK.jpg

    Yes, I know that it is mounted upside down. That's due to the position of
    the garage door track. Maybe that's why it's giving me problems, but it >>> had been working perfectly for over 4 years. Maybe being upside down
    finally took it's toll.

    For the past few months the reel has been reluctant to pull the hose all >>> the way back into the case. It doesn't appear to be evenly disbursing the
    hose across the center hub. It's kind of piling it up sloppily, so as the
    wound up hose gets "thicker" in some spots, it creates resistance that >>> slows the retraction down until it eventually stops. I can tell when I try
    to pull out the hose that it's getting hung up in spots. It tends to stop
    retracting when there's about 3' - 4' left to go. If I pull the hose out a little,
    let it go back in, repeat, repeat, etc. I can usually get it retract fully as
    shown.

    AFAICT the intake guide is moving back and forth as it should. I've even >>> lubed the guide and rail to see if that would help. Nope.

    Has anyone dealt with this issue? Thanks.

    Yes, I have a DeWalt, mounted correctly. It slows way down if there is
    pressure on the hose. The pressurized hose is stiffer and requires
    more room on the reel. Try, if you have not, releasing all the
    pressure from the hose.

    If that helps you might also try wiping the hose down with some RuGlyde >> rubber lubricant. You might find smaller containers.

    https://www.amazon.com/Ru-Glyde-Mounting-Rubber-Lubricant-Bottle/dp/B000CIJUGK/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3NIQW63PZARRG&keywords=ruglide&qid=1677358277&sprefix=ruglide%2Caps%2C1074&sr=8-2

    Thanks, but it’s not pressure related. It “bunches up” on the hub even with no pressure plus it never displayed this issue when under pressure in the past.

    I’ve been watching it more closely over the past few days. It looks
    like whatever internal mechanism drives the front guide back and
    forth may be shot or out of adjustment or in need of lubrication, etc.

    Are you sure that there is a mechanism that moves the hose back and
    forth?

    100% sure.

    In the following clip the narrator says "as you pull it out" but in reality he is rewinding it while describing (and showing) the mechanism that I
    think is not working correctly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8RKvHp_Wk4&t=263s

    My hose simply goes through the hole and winds, often not
    falling to an empty spot. Your hose may be winding taller in spots and hitting the inside of the case. Mine has no case.

    Yep...that's what I said yesterday. Look down about 5 rows. Instead of
    "tall" I used the word "thick". ;-)


    If the hose is dry, no longer has that slippery feel, it can stack on it self and not fall into the shallower spots.
    The front guide does not always complete the full side to side travel. Sometimes it reverses long before it reaches the side, which cause
    more hose in certain areas than others. Eventually it piles up so thick, it causes too much drag and stops. IOW there’s no more clearance
    between the wound up hose and the case.

    I’ll take a look at it after I finish trimming out the room we’re renovating.
    It’ll suck if I need a new one. Not because of the cost but because I know
    that I won’t throw the old hose out, even though I already have enough hose
    to reach just about anywhere I would need it. 50’ of perfectly good air hose?
    Why would I get rid of that? ;-)
    I would recommend an open reel. Mine is like this. https://www.amazon.com/DeWalt-DXCM024-0343-Double-Premium-Rubber/dp/B079V77834

    If I have to get a new one I will consider an open one. The one I have was a gift from
    my son and one of those gifts that keeps on giving. If I can fix it, I'd really like to. I often
    think about him when I'm using air.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Sun Feb 26 21:19:26 2023
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 12:59:12 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    If I have to get a new one I will consider an open one. The one I have was a gift from
    my son and one of those gifts that keeps on giving. If I can fix it, I'd really like to. I often
    think about him when I'm using air.

    There is probably a cam driven by the take up maybe it has collected a
    bit of dust not letting it track right?

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 27 11:32:33 2023
    On 2/26/2023 2:59 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 2/25/2023 5:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 3:54:11 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 2/24/2023 2:33 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    This Husky 50' Hose Reel is giving me problems.

    https://i.imgur.com/XLWAErK.jpg

    Yes, I know that it is mounted upside down. That's due to the position of >>>>> the garage door track. Maybe that's why it's giving me problems, but it >>>>> had been working perfectly for over 4 years. Maybe being upside down >>>>> finally took it's toll.

    For the past few months the reel has been reluctant to pull the hose all >>>>> the way back into the case. It doesn't appear to be evenly disbursing the >>>>> hose across the center hub. It's kind of piling it up sloppily, so as the >>>>> wound up hose gets "thicker" in some spots, it creates resistance that >>>>> slows the retraction down until it eventually stops. I can tell when I try
    to pull out the hose that it's getting hung up in spots. It tends to stop >>>>> retracting when there's about 3' - 4' left to go. If I pull the hose out a little,
    let it go back in, repeat, repeat, etc. I can usually get it retract fully as
    shown.

    AFAICT the intake guide is moving back and forth as it should. I've even >>>>> lubed the guide and rail to see if that would help. Nope.

    Has anyone dealt with this issue? Thanks.

    Yes, I have a DeWalt, mounted correctly. It slows way down if there is >>>> pressure on the hose. The pressurized hose is stiffer and requires
    more room on the reel. Try, if you have not, releasing all the
    pressure from the hose.

    If that helps you might also try wiping the hose down with some RuGlyde >>>> rubber lubricant. You might find smaller containers.

    https://www.amazon.com/Ru-Glyde-Mounting-Rubber-Lubricant-Bottle/dp/B000CIJUGK/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3NIQW63PZARRG&keywords=ruglide&qid=1677358277&sprefix=ruglide%2Caps%2C1074&sr=8-2

    Thanks, but it’s not pressure related. It “bunches up” on the hub
    even with no pressure plus it never displayed this issue when under
    pressure in the past.

    I’ve been watching it more closely over the past few days. It looks
    like whatever internal mechanism drives the front guide back and
    forth may be shot or out of adjustment or in need of lubrication, etc.

    Are you sure that there is a mechanism that moves the hose back and
    forth?

    100% sure.

    In the following clip the narrator says "as you pull it out" but in reality he
    is rewinding it while describing (and showing) the mechanism that I
    think is not working correctly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8RKvHp_Wk4&t=263s


    Got it. Likely because of the enclosed reel. Not necessary for the
    open reel types.



    My hose simply goes through the hole and winds, often not
    falling to an empty spot. Your hose may be winding taller in spots and
    hitting the inside of the case. Mine has no case.

    Yep...that's what I said yesterday. Look down about 5 rows. Instead of
    "tall" I used the word "thick". ;-)


    If the hose is dry, no longer has that slippery feel, it can stack on it
    self and not fall into the shallower spots.
    The front guide does not always complete the full side to side travel.
    Sometimes it reverses long before it reaches the side, which cause
    more hose in certain areas than others. Eventually it piles up so thick, >>> it causes too much drag and stops. IOW there’s no more clearance
    between the wound up hose and the case.

    So there is likely a pivoting piece in the guide that engages the
    threaded rod. If the piece wears out or breaks it will not properly
    follow the threads on the rod.




    I’ll take a look at it after I finish trimming out the room we’re renovating.
    It’ll suck if I need a new one. Not because of the cost but because I know
    that I won’t throw the old hose out, even though I already have enough hose
    to reach just about anywhere I would need it. 50’ of perfectly good air hose?
    Why would I get rid of that? ;-)

    Longer hoses are good for fence building. I have about 220 feet of
    hoses and can reach anywhere in my yard. I got the 100' one when I
    "was" building fences 15 years ago. A 20 footer came with the previous compressor, before 1995. And my regular 50 footer was being used until
    I got the hose reel with the 50' hose.



    I would recommend an open reel. Mine is like this.
    https://www.amazon.com/DeWalt-DXCM024-0343-Double-Premium-Rubber/dp/B079V77834

    If I have to get a new one I will consider an open one. The one I have was a gift from
    my son and one of those gifts that keeps on giving. If I can fix it, I'd really like to. I often
    think about him when I'm using air.

    There is That. I have a desk lamp that my son bought for my birthday
    with his allowance money about 27 years ago. He was 7~8 years old. He
    actually asked my wife to take him to my favorite lighting store and
    researched which one with the owner.

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