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  • OT: Another truck question: Do you get the rustproof undercoating?

    From Michael@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 12 15:10:16 2023
    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Thu Jan 12 20:57:48 2023
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 21:37:14 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair
    facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.

    Salt will eat aluminum too.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to michaeldwilson2@gmail.com on Thu Jan 12 21:37:14 2023
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair
    facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Fri Jan 13 10:40:01 2023
    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair
    facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 13 16:34:19 2023
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair
    facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum.
    I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken
    over the whole thing.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to k...@notreal.com on Fri Jan 13 18:19:32 2023
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 9:37:20 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.
    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair
    facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.

    Salt will eat the aluminum finish on alloy wheels. DAMHIKT

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 13 18:49:05 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:19:36 PM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 9:37:20 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.
    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.
    Salt will eat the aluminum finish on alloy wheels. DAMHIKT

    Thanks everyone! All good information!

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Sun Jan 15 08:32:18 2023
    On 1/13/2023 3:34 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair
    facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum.
    I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken
    over the whole thing.

    The body if not all is mostly aluminum.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 15 17:01:50 2023
    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 08:32:18 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/13/2023 3:34 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair
    facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum.
    I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken
    over the whole thing.

    The body if not all is mostly aluminum.

    How's that for a definitive statement!

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Sun Jan 15 16:17:28 2023
    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:01:50 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 08:32:18 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/13/2023 3:34 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair
    facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum.
    I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken
    over the whole thing.

    The body if not all is mostly aluminum.

    How's that for a definitive statement!

    Plastic makes up the rest.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 15 23:42:19 2023
    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:17:28 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:01:50 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 08:32:18 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/13/2023 3:34 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to >>>>>> repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair >>>>>> facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum.
    I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken
    over the whole thing.

    The body if not all is mostly aluminum.

    How's that for a definitive statement!

    Plastic makes up the rest.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dug-G9xVdVs>

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Mon Jan 16 11:07:36 2023
    On 1/15/2023 10:42 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:17:28 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:01:50 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 08:32:18 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/13/2023 3:34 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to >>>>>>> repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair >>>>>>> facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum.
    I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken
    over the whole thing.

    The body if not all is mostly aluminum.

    How's that for a definitive statement!

    Plastic makes up the rest.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dug-G9xVdVs>


    LOL, Something the greenies, far left conservatives, and Biden fail to realize.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Mon Jan 16 11:05:10 2023
    On 1/15/2023 4:01 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 08:32:18 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/13/2023 3:34 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to
    repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair
    facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum.
    I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken
    over the whole thing.

    The body if not all is mostly aluminum.

    How's that for a definitive statement!


    Good Question. LOL The body is aluminum, basically all exterior color painted surfaces.

    Way back when, Ford used a galvanized cowl panel, the part with inlets
    around the windshield wiper arms. Those notoriously did not hold
    paint. That would require a different painting process. I suspect
    that this was cured by using the same metal through out, which is
    painted the same color. It would be an expensive process painting with
    different formulas for the same color in the same vehicle..
    A real PIA for body shops and probably the factory was painting the
    rubber body parts around the bumpers that matched the color of the body.
    Those parts required a special painting process that required the
    paint to have a flex additive.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Mon Jan 16 11:56:02 2023
    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 23:42:19 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:17:28 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:01:50 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 08:32:18 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/13/2023 3:34 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to >>>>>>> repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair >>>>>>> facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum.
    I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken
    over the whole thing.

    The body if not all is mostly aluminum.

    How's that for a definitive statement!

    Plastic makes up the rest.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dug-G9xVdVs>

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJAk8yhAP0k

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 18 20:41:11 2023
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:07:36 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/15/2023 10:42 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:17:28 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:01:50 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 08:32:18 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/13/2023 3:34 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to >>>>>>>> repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair >>>>>>>> facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum. >>>>>> I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken >>>>>> over the whole thing.

    The body if not all is mostly aluminum.

    How's that for a definitive statement!

    Plastic makes up the rest.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dug-G9xVdVs>


    LOL, Something the greenies, far left conservatives, and Biden fail to >realize.

    What is a "far left conservative"?

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Thu Jan 19 10:46:03 2023
    On 1/18/2023 7:41 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:07:36 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/15/2023 10:42 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:17:28 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:01:50 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 08:32:18 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 1/13/2023 3:34 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:01 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 1/12/2023 8:37 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:10:16 -0800 (PST), Michael
    <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

    I read where Ford already does undercoating of aluminum trucks against rust at the factory. But I live in the Upper Midwest, so I see a lot of salt in the winter. Thanks.

    Is aluminum a problem? I know welded bodies are very difficult to >>>>>>>>> repair because of steel pollution (require an aluminum only repair >>>>>>>>> facility) but I didn't know salt was a problem.


    The frames, at least my 2019 F150 frame, is steel.

    The frames are steel but the boxes, after '14 (IIRC), are aluminum. >>>>>>> I'm not sure of the rest of the body. Aluminum creep may have taken >>>>>>> over the whole thing.

    The body if not all is mostly aluminum.

    How's that for a definitive statement!

    Plastic makes up the rest.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dug-G9xVdVs>


    LOL, Something the greenies, far left conservatives, and Biden fail to
    realize.

    What is a "far left conservative"?

    "F" LIBERALS!

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