I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
Lee Valley sells a 4 inch saw-tooth.
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would be
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com" <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would be
Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the
ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press
at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole
saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4” exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old, hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days.
Now there’s a fun time. ;-)
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would be
Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the
ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press
at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole
saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4 exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days.
Now theres a fun time. ;-)
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote: >>> On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >>>>> I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would be
Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the
ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press
at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole
saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4” exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days.
Now there’s a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com" <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would be
Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the
ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press
at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole
saw is just cutting the perimeter.
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would
Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the
ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press >>> at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole
saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4” exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days.
Now there’s a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>Ir an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface.
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:04:40 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would be
toilet flange. It was a close fit but worked. No extra wiggle room so it had to be drilled right where I wanted it.Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the
ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press
at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole
saw is just cutting the perimeter.
I used that EXACT same hole saw to cut holes in the plywood ceiling in the garage to install the round plastic electrical boxes. I just put in the simple screw in light fixtures. AND I used the same hole saw to cut the hole in the subfloor for the
True on the hole saw just cutting the perimeter while the Forstner bit cuts the interior. But whenever I use the hole saw I always get it a bit cockeyed and it grabs and kicks and bucks and tries to jerk the drill out of my hands. So I might argue theForstner bit is easier to control because it removes all the wood as it cuts. Nothing to catch. But with the hole saw you always have that interior to catch and throw things out of alignment. The Forstner takes more power, force, torque, but its safer
I've never drilled free-hand with a large Forstner bit but some do
have "teeth" or "waves". Wouldn't they have the same problem?
I've never seen the reason to free-hand any hole with a Forstner. It's
a specialty bit, best for flat bottoms holes not through holes.
Neither are something I'd do free-hand. I've never even thought of
using one for anything else.
But you're right. Drilling free-hand with a hole saw is like riding a bronco. It's bad enough with a drill press.
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:would be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >>>>
demolition tool. Not a build it tool.Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press >>> at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4” exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days.
Now there’s a fun time. ;-)
I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the Sawzall as aJust use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>Ir an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface.
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:56:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:tack it down with nails, screws or clamps.
I've never drilled free-hand with a large Forstner bit but some do
have "teeth" or "waves". Wouldn't they have the same problem?
I've never seen the reason to free-hand any hole with a Forstner. It's
a specialty bit, best for flat bottoms holes not through holes.
Neither are something I'd do free-hand. I've never even thought of
using one for anything else.
But you're right. Drilling free-hand with a hole saw is like riding a bronco. It's bad enough with a drill press.When I drill holes with a Forstner bit using a hand held drill I first drill a hole with it through a piece of plywood on the drill press. Then I use that plywood as a drill guide for the drilling the needed hole. Depending on where the hole is going I
The last 4” exhaust vent hole I drilled was under a deck. No room
for a jig saw in the interior joist bay or under the deck. Maybe a reciprocating would have worked, but I got it done with the hole
saw. PITA but doable.
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >>>>>>
as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.Ir an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface.Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the
ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press >>>>> at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole
saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4” exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days.
Now there’s a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the Sawzall
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:56:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:tack it down with nails, screws or clamps.
I've never drilled free-hand with a large Forstner bit but some do
have "teeth" or "waves". Wouldn't they have the same problem?
I've never seen the reason to free-hand any hole with a Forstner. It's
a specialty bit, best for flat bottoms holes not through holes.
Neither are something I'd do free-hand. I've never even thought of
using one for anything else.
But you're right. Drilling free-hand with a hole saw is like riding a
bronco. It's bad enough with a drill press.
When I drill holes with a Forstner bit using a hand held drill I first drill a hole with it through a piece of plywood on the drill press. Then I use that plywood as a drill guide for the drilling the needed hole. Depending on where the hole is going I
On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:26:48 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:foundation, double rim joist, fiber cement siding, and lots of mechanical room things in the way.
The last 4 exhaust vent hole I drilled was under a deck. No room
for a jig saw in the interior joist bay or under the deck. Maybe a
reciprocating would have worked, but I got it done with the hole
saw. PITA but doable.
I never seem to need such a hole in an easily accessible location... The last time I installed a dryer vent I went through the foundation blocks as wiring and plumbing was in the way. The time before that it was at a modular home that had a poured
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:04:01 PM UTC-5, gros...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:56:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote: >>I tack it down with nails, screws or clamps.
I've never drilled free-hand with a large Forstner bit but some doWhen I drill holes with a Forstner bit using a hand held drill I first drill a hole with it through a piece of plywood on the drill press. Then I use that plywood as a drill guide for the drilling the needed hole. Depending on where the hole is going
have "teeth" or "waves". Wouldn't they have the same problem?
I've never seen the reason to free-hand any hole with a Forstner. It's
a specialty bit, best for flat bottoms holes not through holes.
Neither are something I'd do free-hand. I've never even thought of
using one for anything else.
But you're right. Drilling free-hand with a hole saw is like riding a
bronco. It's bad enough with a drill press.
I do the same thing when enlarging an existing hole with"externally pilotted hole saw"
hole saw. If theres no material for the pilot bit to bite
into, youll never get a good start with just the hole saw.
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:11:12 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:SawzAll
Ever run an 4 exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days.
Now theres a fun time. ;-)
Yup... by drilling a bunch of holes around the perimeter and chiseling it out... the hole saw I had wasn't getting the job done but it did give me a nice round circle with a groove into which to put the point of the drill.
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm?
If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would
as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.Ir an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface.Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the
ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press
at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole
saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4 exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days.
Now theres a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the Sawzall
On 12/22/2022 4:54 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >>>>>>>
as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.Ir an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface.Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >>>>>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press >>>>>> at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >>>>>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4 exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days. >>>>> Now theres a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the Sawzall
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/50020963822/in/datetaken/That wasn't an electrician - that was a wanker. Yea, he pulls a wire
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:59:59 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>would be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
wrote:
On 12/22/2022 4:54 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com" >>>>>> <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >>>>>>>
as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the SawzallIr an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface. >>Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >>>>>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press >>>>>> at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more >>>>>> torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >>>>>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4” exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old, >>>>> hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days. >>>>> Now there’s a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/50020963822/in/datetaken/That wasn't an electrician - that was a wanker. Yea, he pulls a wire
- but --------------
On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 3:53:12 PM UTC-6, Clare Snyder wrote:would be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:59:59 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 12/22/2022 4:54 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >> >>>>>>>
as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the SawzallIr an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface. >> >>Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >> >>>>>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press >> >>>>>> at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >> >>>>>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4 exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days. >> >>>>> Now theres a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
that. So its difficult for me to even imagine there are human beings who would do that.That wasn't an electrician - that was a wanker. Yea, he pulls a wire
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/50020963822/in/datetaken/
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Agree. Although "wanker" does not sound harsh enough. I've heard of such work being done. But its hard to even imagine a person is so bad or irresponsible that they would do such a thing. My brain would never even think of doing such a poor job like
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:47:22 -0800 (PST), John Grossbohlin ><grossboj@gmail.com> wrote:foundation, double rim joist, fiber cement siding, and lots of mechanical room things in the way.
On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:26:48 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
The last 4 exhaust vent hole I drilled was under a deck. No room
for a jig saw in the interior joist bay or under the deck. Maybe a
reciprocating would have worked, but I got it done with the hole
saw. PITA but doable.
I never seem to need such a hole in an easily accessible location... The last time I installed a dryer vent I went through the foundation blocks as wiring and plumbing was in the way. The time before that it was at a modular home that had a poured
Sounds like my luck - - -
On 12/22/2022 4:54 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they would
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >>>>>>>
as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.Ir an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface.Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >>>>>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press >>>>>> at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more
torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >>>>>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4 exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days. >>>>> Now theres a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the Sawzall
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/50020963822/in/datetaken/
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:59:59 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>would be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
wrote:
On 12/22/2022 4:54 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com" >>>>>>> <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >>>>>>>>
Sawzall as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.Ir an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface.Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >>>>>>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press >>>>>>> at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more >>>>>>> torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >>>>>>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4” exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days. >>>>>> Now there’s a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the
That wasn't an electrician - that was a wanker. Yea, he pulls a wire
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/50020963822/in/datetaken/
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On 12/23/2022 3:53 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:would be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:59:59 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 12/22/2022 4:54 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com" >>>>>>>> <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >>>>>>>>>
Sawzall as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of theIr an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface. >>>>Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >>>>>>>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press >>>>>>>> at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more >>>>>>>> torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >>>>>>>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4 exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days. >>>>>>> Now theres a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
That wasn't an electrician - that was a wanker. Yea, he pulls a wire
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/50020963822/in/datetaken/
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Agreed. This was a new home build prior to Covid, IIRC. I have seen
equal during the rush of homes being built during the Pandemic.
When we built both of our homes I was on site every other day to watch.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:03:14 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>would be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
wrote:
On 12/23/2022 3:53 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:59:59 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 12/22/2022 4:54 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com" >>>>>>>> <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >>>>>>>>>
as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the SawzallIr an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface. >>>>Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >>>>>>>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press
at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt >>>>>>>> housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more >>>>>>>> torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >>>>>>>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4” exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old, >>>>>>> hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days. >>>>>>> Now there’s a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
That wasn't an electrician - that was a wanker. Yea, he pulls a wire
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/50020963822/in/datetaken/
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Agreed. This was a new home build prior to Covid, IIRC. I have seen
equal during the rush of homes being built during the Pandemic.
When we built both of our homes I was on site every other day to watch.Eons ago, my parents contacted with the builder some small deduction
for them to clean up after the tradesmen every day. The big reason is
they didn't want wood buried next to the foundation as an appetizer
for termites. It also gave them a chance to go over everything done
that day so they could give the contractor a punch list every morning.
;-)
Gosh. Maybe I am innocent and don't know how the world works. But I think its terrible that a person would need to make a list of obvious mistakes to correct. And with your parents, they were able to see and find the obvious mistakes. Errors anyone cansee are wrong. But with house construction, there are many areas where mistakes are not obvious to someone without lots of knowledge. If the house builders made the simple easy to see mistakes, how many other more serious unseen mistakes did they make
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 6:05:35 PM UTC-5, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:can see are wrong. But with house construction, there are many areas where mistakes are not obvious to someone without lots of knowledge. If the house builders made the simple easy to see mistakes, how many other more serious unseen mistakes did they
Gosh. Maybe I am innocent and don't know how the world works. But I think its terrible that a person would need to make a list of obvious mistakes to correct. And with your parents, they were able to see and find the obvious mistakes. Errors anyone
I've done informal home inspections for friends and relatives. Some prior to the formal inspections and a few times afterwards. Nothing surprises me... Original construction mistakes, homeowner work, and normal wear and tear issues.my whole flattened hand through. The realtor and buyer, a friend of mine, were there and when I showed them the hole they were both shocked... it wasn't mentioned in the inspector's report. There were other things that were missed on that report and the
Some of the inspectors aren't too swift... The only reason the residents of one house didn't die from carbon monoxide poisoning was because there were two broken windows in the basement... There was a rust hole in the boiler flue pipe that I could put
My all time favorite was when a division chairman at the college where I taught told me about a problem while we were eating lunch together. The carpet in his dining room was often wet. It had been going on for a year or so at his a new modularoverlooking the Hudson River. The builder wouldn't come back and none of the contractors he called would even come look at it. I offered to inspect it for him and fix it assuming it would be something trivial. Well... it turned out that the exterior
with a hammer... I could see the strike marks. Unfortunately one of those strikes broke a hole through the flashing. Instead of keeping water out it served as a funnel to take the water and channel it into the wall.bottom, the rim joist was gone, the sheathing was gone... It turned out to be a pretty big job. I flashed it with soldered copper along with a cricket to direct water around the chimney instead of into it. Gene was grateful and gave me a tip that was
I explained the problem to Gene and arranged to go over on the weekend to pull the wall apart to see how bad it was. When I removed the drywall I found that all the wood from the sill to top plate was rotten. The the studs were gone 12-18" from the
Nothing surprises me...Over the years I have come to the conclusion that the only
On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 12:16:34 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:03:14 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>would be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
wrote:
On 12/23/2022 3:53 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:59:59 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 12/22/2022 4:54 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com"
<ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >> >>>>>>>>>
Sawzall as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of theIr an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface. >> >>>>Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >> >>>>>>>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press
at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt
housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more >> >>>>>>>> torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >> >>>>>>>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4 exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old,
hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days. >> >>>>>>> Now theres a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
can see are wrong. But with house construction, there are many areas where mistakes are not obvious to someone without lots of knowledge. If the house builders made the simple easy to see mistakes, how many other more serious unseen mistakes did theyEons ago, my parents contacted with the builder some small deductionThat wasn't an electrician - that was a wanker. Yea, he pulls a wire
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/50020963822/in/datetaken/
- but --------------
Agreed. This was a new home build prior to Covid, IIRC. I have seen
equal during the rush of homes being built during the Pandemic.
When we built both of our homes I was on site every other day to watch.
for them to clean up after the tradesmen every day. The big reason is
they didn't want wood buried next to the foundation as an appetizer
for termites. It also gave them a chance to go over everything done
that day so they could give the contractor a punch list every morning.
;-)
Gosh. Maybe I am innocent and don't know how the world works. But I think its terrible that a person would need to make a list of obvious mistakes to correct. And with your parents, they were able to see and find the obvious mistakes. Errors anyone
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:06:02 -0500, Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca>can see are wrong. But with house construction, there are many areas where mistakes are not obvious to someone without lots of knowledge. If the house builders made the simple easy to see mistakes, how many other more serious unseen mistakes did they
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 16:44:15 -0800 (PST), John Grossbohlin >><grossboj@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 6:05:35 PM UTC-5, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
Gosh. Maybe I am innocent and don't know how the world works. But I think its terrible that a person would need to make a list of obvious mistakes to correct. And with your parents, they were able to see and find the obvious mistakes. Errors anyone
put my whole flattened hand through. The realtor and buyer, a friend of mine, were there and when I showed them the hole they were both shocked... it wasn't mentioned in the inspector's report. There were other things that were missed on that report and
I've done informal home inspections for friends and relatives. Some prior to the formal inspections and a few times afterwards. Nothing surprises me... Original construction mistakes, homeowner work, and normal wear and tear issues.
Some of the inspectors aren't too swift... The only reason the residents of one house didn't die from carbon monoxide poisoning was because there were two broken windows in the basement... There was a rust hole in the boiler flue pipe that I could
overlooking the Hudson River. The builder wouldn't come back and none of the contractors he called would even come look at it. I offered to inspect it for him and fix it assuming it would be something trivial. Well... it turned out that the exterior
My all time favorite was when a division chairman at the college where I taught told me about a problem while we were eating lunch together. The carpet in his dining room was often wet. It had been going on for a year or so at his a new modular
placebottom, the rim joist was gone, the sheathing was gone... It turned out to be a pretty big job. I flashed it with soldered copper along with a cricket to direct water around the chimney instead of into it. Gene was grateful and gave me a tip that was
with a hammer... I could see the strike marks. Unfortunately one of those strikes broke a hole through the flashing. Instead of keeping water out it served as a funnel to take the water and channel it into the wall.
I explained the problem to Gene and arranged to go over on the weekend to pull the wall apart to see how bad it was. When I removed the drywall I found that all the wood from the sill to top plate was rotten. The the studs were gone 12-18" from the
I think one take-away from this discussion is NEVER use the inspector suggested by the selling realtor.Over the years I have come to the conclusion that the only
Nothing surprises me...
prerequisit for being a home inspector is to be BLIND
I recall a Realtor trying to steer me away from one home inspector
because he always found too many problems for her taste. I used him
anyway, and he found many things (the house was built in 1896), but I
bought it anyway, and had no subsequent surprises.
But the implication is that RE folk prefer blind, and likely get it.
Joe Gwinn.
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 16:44:15 -0800 (PST), John Grossbohlin ><grossboj@gmail.com> wrote:can see are wrong. But with house construction, there are many areas where mistakes are not obvious to someone without lots of knowledge. If the house builders made the simple easy to see mistakes, how many other more serious unseen mistakes did they
On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 6:05:35 PM UTC-5, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
Gosh. Maybe I am innocent and don't know how the world works. But I think its terrible that a person would need to make a list of obvious mistakes to correct. And with your parents, they were able to see and find the obvious mistakes. Errors anyone
my whole flattened hand through. The realtor and buyer, a friend of mine, were there and when I showed them the hole they were both shocked... it wasn't mentioned in the inspector's report. There were other things that were missed on that report and the
I've done informal home inspections for friends and relatives. Some prior to the formal inspections and a few times afterwards. Nothing surprises me... Original construction mistakes, homeowner work, and normal wear and tear issues.
Some of the inspectors aren't too swift... The only reason the residents of one house didn't die from carbon monoxide poisoning was because there were two broken windows in the basement... There was a rust hole in the boiler flue pipe that I could put
overlooking the Hudson River. The builder wouldn't come back and none of the contractors he called would even come look at it. I offered to inspect it for him and fix it assuming it would be something trivial. Well... it turned out that the exterior
My all time favorite was when a division chairman at the college where I taught told me about a problem while we were eating lunch together. The carpet in his dining room was often wet. It had been going on for a year or so at his a new modular
bottom, the rim joist was gone, the sheathing was gone... It turned out to be a pretty big job. I flashed it with soldered copper along with a cricket to direct water around the chimney instead of into it. Gene was grateful and gave me a tip that waswith a hammer... I could see the strike marks. Unfortunately one of those strikes broke a hole through the flashing. Instead of keeping water out it served as a funnel to take the water and channel it into the wall.
I explained the problem to Gene and arranged to go over on the weekend to pull the wall apart to see how bad it was. When I removed the drywall I found that all the wood from the sill to top plate was rotten. The the studs were gone 12-18" from the
Over the years I have come to the conclusion that the only
Nothing surprises me...
prerequisit for being a home inspector is to be BLIND
On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 12:16:34 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:would be just fine there. Perfect 90 degree plunge. So no danger.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:03:14 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 12/23/2022 3:53 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 11:59:59 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 12/22/2022 4:54 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
On 12/22/2022 9:37 AM, Markem618 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 23:11:09 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 16:43:41 -0800 (PST), "russell...@yahoo.com" >>>>>>>>>> <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 3:16:03 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was looking through my spam and ran across this.If you have ever used a Hole Saw in a drill, you know the bigger they get, the harder they kick. You got to be real careful when drilling a big hole with a handheld Hole Saw. I've never used my Hole Saws in a drill press, but I suspect they
<https://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v310-0410-forstner-premium/forstner-bits?p=3DAY&mc_cid=d56ea360a8&mc_eid=1f6a4a5396>
A 4" Forstner bit? Really? How fast do you turn that thing? 2rpm? >>>>>>>>>>>
as a demolition tool. Not a build it tool.I hope I never come across someone who did that. I might find a better use for that hammer. But I have used a jigsaw and a hole started with a drill to make some cuts. Jigsaw is a bit easier to guide than the Sawzall. I always think of the SawzallIr an electricians trick, a claw hammer to beat a hole in the surface. >>>>>>Sure. I use a 4-1/8" hole saw to make holes in 1/2" plywood for the >>>>>>>>>> ceiling box, when I hang "fluorescent" fixtures. I use my drill press
at 450RPM, IIRC (size vs RPM is marked on a label in the belt >>>>>>>>>> housing). It would seem that a Forstner bit would take a lot more >>>>>>>>>> torque because it's also hogging out the center of the hole. A hole >>>>>>>>>> saw is just cutting the perimeter.
Ever run an 4” exhaust duct through a rim joist. A 70 year old, >>>>>>>>> hard-as-heck rim joist, not the soft 2 by stuff they use these days. >>>>>>>>> Now there’s a fun time. ;-)
Just use the old plumbers trick, get a sawzall. ;>
can see are wrong. But with house construction, there are many areas where mistakes are not obvious to someone without lots of knowledge. If the house builders made the simple easy to see mistakes, how many other more serious unseen mistakes did theyEons ago, my parents contacted with the builder some small deductionThat wasn't an electrician - that was a wanker. Yea, he pulls a wire
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Agreed. This was a new home build prior to Covid, IIRC. I have seen
equal during the rush of homes being built during the Pandemic.
When we built both of our homes I was on site every other day to watch.
for them to clean up after the tradesmen every day. The big reason is
they didn't want wood buried next to the foundation as an appetizer
for termites. It also gave them a chance to go over everything done
that day so they could give the contractor a punch list every morning.
;-)
Gosh. Maybe I am innocent and don't know how the world works. But I think its terrible that a person would need to make a list of obvious mistakes to correct. And with your parents, they were able to see and find the obvious mistakes. Errors anyone
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