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  • Building an artist easel - more progress

    From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 3 19:47:13 2021
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.

    I've added a picture of the pieces that are almost <ahem> finished.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to Bob Davis on Mon Oct 4 08:28:13 2021
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.

    I've added a picture of the pieces that are almost <ahem> finished.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

    When you posted originally, I had a question about lockable wheels. My
    wife and I joked about trying to find her easel after the two cats were
    done playing with it.

    Assuming the picture is the wheel that you are using I see that it does
    have locks.

    If any thing I would recommend using a wider wheel This will
    distribute the weigh of the easel over a wider area of the floor.

    The wider wheel would be a necessity on any carpeted surface, and unless
    used on concrete would help prevent dents in the other surfaces as is
    sits in the same area for any length of time

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  • From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net on Mon Oct 4 17:13:16 2021
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5, keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.

    I've added a picture of the pieces that are almost <ahem> finished.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

    When you posted originally, I had a question about lockable wheels. My
    wife and I joked about trying to find her easel after the two cats were
    done playing with it.

    Assuming the picture is the wheel that you are using I see that it does
    have locks.

    If any thing I would recommend using a wider wheel This will
    distribute the weigh of the easel over a wider area of the floor.

    The wider wheel would be a necessity on any carpeted surface, and unless used on concrete would help prevent dents in the other surfaces as is
    sits in the same area for any length of time

    Thanks for your response and suggestions. These wheels are actually a fairly soft natural rubber. The easel will be sitting on an oversized acrylic sheet on top of carpet. The sheet distributes weight, like a chair mat does for a rolling desk chair.
    I wanted something that my wife could operate easily, yet roll easy and stays in one place when locked. We will see how it works out in real life use. These casters were expensive and I don't want to replace them just yet.

    Bob

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to wrober...@gmail.com on Fri Oct 8 10:01:22 2021
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Michael on Fri Oct 8 13:06:27 2021
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg




    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.

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  • From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to Michael on Fri Oct 8 17:06:31 2021
    cOn Friday, October 8, 2021 at 12:01:25 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.
    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    Great looking. Easels are noble projects. Just ask my wife.

    Bob

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to Leon on Fri Oct 8 16:53:08 2021
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.

    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of one they had for sale. I asked first.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Michael on Sat Oct 9 13:44:42 2021
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 7:53:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.
    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of one they had for sale. I asked first.

    I did a similar thing before building a fish tank stand. I went to an aquarium shop and measured a
    couple of ones that I liked. When the employee asked if I needed any help, I said no and then fibbed
    a little. "I'm taking some measurements so I can see where it will fit."

    Part of that was somewhat true. ;-)

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  • From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 7 04:13:32 2021
    On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:44:44 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 7:53:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.
    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of one they had for sale. I asked first.
    I did a similar thing before building a fish tank stand. I went to an aquarium shop and measured a
    couple of ones that I liked. When the employee asked if I needed any help, I said no and then fibbed
    a little. "I'm taking some measurements so I can see where it will fit."

    Part of that was somewhat true. ;-)

    It feels like I have been finishing for weeks. I am finally getting into the final assembly and glue up stages. This update shows the section called the penthouse. It houses pulleys for cables to the counterbalance weights. Obviously when I originally
    designed this easel, I was enamoured with dowel joints. That was before I acquired a Festool domino. I still think a good dowel jig has its place. I use the dowelmax jig.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to Bob Davis on Sun Nov 7 08:22:03 2021
    On 11/7/2021 7:13 AM, Bob Davis wrote:
    On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:44:44 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 7:53:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.
    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of one they had for sale. I asked first.
    I did a similar thing before building a fish tank stand. I went to an aquarium shop and measured a
    couple of ones that I liked. When the employee asked if I needed any help, I said no and then fibbed
    a little. "I'm taking some measurements so I can see where it will fit."

    Part of that was somewhat true. ;-)

    It feels like I have been finishing for weeks. I am finally getting into the final assembly and glue up stages. This update shows the section called the penthouse. It houses pulleys for cables to the counterbalance weights. Obviously when I
    originally designed this easel, I was enamoured with dowel joints. That was before I acquired a Festool domino. I still think a good dowel jig has its place. I use the dowelmax jig.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

    How are you going to support the sled portion once it is the desired
    position. Friction against the main frame? Clamps on the lifting
    ropes? , etc.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to knuttle on Sun Nov 7 08:52:49 2021
    On 11/7/2021 7:22 AM, knuttle wrote:
    On 11/7/2021 7:13 AM, Bob Davis wrote:
    On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:44:44 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 7:53:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5,
    wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5,
    keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone >>>>>>>>> hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a >>>>>>>>> finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to
    where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are
    rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.
    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of
    one they had for sale. I asked first.
    I did a similar thing before building a fish tank stand. I went to an
    aquarium shop and measured a
    couple of ones that I liked. When the employee asked if I needed any
    help, I said no and then fibbed
    a little. "I'm taking some measurements so I can see where it will fit." >>>
    Part of that was somewhat true. ;-)

    It feels like I have been finishing for weeks.  I am finally getting
    into the final assembly and glue up stages. This update shows the
    section called the penthouse. It houses pulleys for cables to the
    counterbalance weights.  Obviously when I originally designed this
    easel, I was enamoured with dowel joints. That was before I acquired a
    Festool domino. I still think a good dowel jig has its place.  I use
    the dowelmax jig.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

    How are you going to support the sled portion once it is the desired position.   Friction against the main frame?  Clamps on the lifting
    ropes? , etc.


    Probably speaking out of place here but IIRC Bob is going to use a
    counter balance.

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  • From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to Leon on Sun Nov 7 17:07:28 2021
    On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 8:52:56 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
    On 11/7/2021 7:22 AM, knuttle wrote:
    On 11/7/2021 7:13 AM, Bob Davis wrote:
    On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:44:44 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 7:53:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5,
    wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5,
    keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone >>>>>>>>> hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a >>>>>>>>> finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to >>>>>>>>> where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are >>>>>>>>> rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.
    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of >>>> one they had for sale. I asked first.
    I did a similar thing before building a fish tank stand. I went to an >>> aquarium shop and measured a
    couple of ones that I liked. When the employee asked if I needed any
    help, I said no and then fibbed
    a little. "I'm taking some measurements so I can see where it will fit." >>>
    Part of that was somewhat true. ;-)

    It feels like I have been finishing for weeks. I am finally getting
    into the final assembly and glue up stages. This update shows the
    section called the penthouse. It houses pulleys for cables to the
    counterbalance weights. Obviously when I originally designed this
    easel, I was enamoured with dowel joints. That was before I acquired a
    Festool domino. I still think a good dowel jig has its place. I use
    the dowelmax jig.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

    How are you going to support the sled portion once it is the desired position. Friction against the main frame? Clamps on the lifting
    ropes? , etc.
    Probably speaking out of place here but IIRC Bob is going to use a
    counter balance.

    Good memory, Leon. Yes, the pulleys in the penthouse have two cables that run up and down. One end of the cables attaches to a vertical carriage that supports the canvass palette. The other end of the cables go to a box that holds lead weights to
    counterbalance the weight of the carriage/palette assembly. The weights can be added or removed. Also 1/2" brass pins are inserted to lock the carriage in place. The pin holes are spaced vertically every 4 inches.

    I will post more pictures as I get it assembled and working.

    Bob

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to Leon on Sun Nov 7 20:17:20 2021
    On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 08:52:49 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

    On 11/7/2021 7:22 AM, knuttle wrote:
    On 11/7/2021 7:13 AM, Bob Davis wrote:
    On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:44:44 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 7:53:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5,
    wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5,
    keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone >>>>>>>>>> hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a >>>>>>>>>> finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to >>>>>>>>>> where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are >>>>>>>>>> rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.
    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of >>>>> one they had for sale. I asked first.
    I did a similar thing before building a fish tank stand. I went to an
    aquarium shop and measured a
    couple of ones that I liked. When the employee asked if I needed any
    help, I said no and then fibbed
    a little. "I'm taking some measurements so I can see where it will fit." >>>>
    Part of that was somewhat true. ;-)

    It feels like I have been finishing for weeks.  I am finally getting
    into the final assembly and glue up stages. This update shows the
    section called the penthouse. It houses pulleys for cables to the
    counterbalance weights.  Obviously when I originally designed this
    easel, I was enamoured with dowel joints. That was before I acquired a
    Festool domino. I still think a good dowel jig has its place.  I use
    the dowelmax jig.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

    How are you going to support the sled portion once it is the desired
    position.   Friction against the main frame?  Clamps on the lifting
    ropes? , etc.


    Probably speaking out of place here but IIRC Bob is going to use a
    counter balance.

    Wouldn't a brake of some sort still be needed. Depending on the
    weight of the canvas it would go up or down, no? It would be annoying
    for the thing to move when you use a roller, too.

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  • From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to k...@notreal.com on Mon Nov 8 16:01:11 2021
    On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 7:17:25 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 08:52:49 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

    On 11/7/2021 7:22 AM, knuttle wrote:
    On 11/7/2021 7:13 AM, Bob Davis wrote:
    On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:44:44 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 7:53:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5,
    wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5,
    keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone >>>>>>>>>> hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a >>>>>>>>>> finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to >>>>>>>>>> where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are >>>>>>>>>> rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.
    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of >>>>> one they had for sale. I asked first.
    I did a similar thing before building a fish tank stand. I went to an >>>> aquarium shop and measured a
    couple of ones that I liked. When the employee asked if I needed any >>>> help, I said no and then fibbed
    a little. "I'm taking some measurements so I can see where it will fit."

    Part of that was somewhat true. ;-)

    It feels like I have been finishing for weeks. I am finally getting
    into the final assembly and glue up stages. This update shows the
    section called the penthouse. It houses pulleys for cables to the
    counterbalance weights. Obviously when I originally designed this
    easel, I was enamoured with dowel joints. That was before I acquired a >>> Festool domino. I still think a good dowel jig has its place. I use
    the dowelmax jig.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

    How are you going to support the sled portion once it is the desired
    position. Friction against the main frame? Clamps on the lifting
    ropes? , etc.


    Probably speaking out of place here but IIRC Bob is going to use a
    counter balance.
    Wouldn't a brake of some sort still be needed. Depending on the
    weight of the canvas it would go up or down, no? It would be annoying
    for the thing to move when you use a roller, too.

    The thing is so obtuse that I really don't know how to put in words. The canvass is locked down until the artist releases it to move it up/down/left/right/tilt forward/tilt back. I'll make a video showing all the operations, including locking when it
    is done. Progress is accelerating. I've added new pictures showing the main support structure dry fitted. Part of this structure is built with cross-dowels so it can be dissassembled for moving. I included a photo showing an example.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to wrobertdavis@gmail.com on Mon Nov 8 20:36:14 2021
    On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 16:01:11 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
    <wrobertdavis@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 7:17:25 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 08:52:49 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

    On 11/7/2021 7:22 AM, knuttle wrote:
    On 11/7/2021 7:13 AM, Bob Davis wrote:
    On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:44:44 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 7:53:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5,
    wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5,
    keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone
    hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a
    finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to
    where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are
    rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.
    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of >> >>>>> one they had for sale. I asked first.
    I did a similar thing before building a fish tank stand. I went to an >> >>>> aquarium shop and measured a
    couple of ones that I liked. When the employee asked if I needed any
    help, I said no and then fibbed
    a little. "I'm taking some measurements so I can see where it will fit."

    Part of that was somewhat true. ;-)

    It feels like I have been finishing for weeks. I am finally getting
    into the final assembly and glue up stages. This update shows the
    section called the penthouse. It houses pulleys for cables to the
    counterbalance weights. Obviously when I originally designed this
    easel, I was enamoured with dowel joints. That was before I acquired a >> >>> Festool domino. I still think a good dowel jig has its place. I use
    the dowelmax jig.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

    How are you going to support the sled portion once it is the desired
    position. Friction against the main frame? Clamps on the lifting
    ropes? , etc.


    Probably speaking out of place here but IIRC Bob is going to use a
    counter balance.
    Wouldn't a brake of some sort still be needed. Depending on the
    weight of the canvas it would go up or down, no? It would be annoying
    for the thing to move when you use a roller, too.

    The thing is so obtuse that I really don't know how to put in words. The canvass is locked down until the artist releases it to move it up/down/left/right/tilt forward/tilt back. I'll make a video showing all the operations, including locking when it
    is done. Progress is accelerating. I've added new pictures showing the main support structure dry fitted. Part of this structure is built with cross-dowels so it can be dissassembled for moving. I included a photo showing an example.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Yes, the dowels act as the "brake" or stop. The counterbalance is
    just that. It doesn't hold it in place (didn't see how that would
    work).

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  • From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to k...@notreal.com on Wed Nov 10 18:51:47 2021
    On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 7:36:18 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 16:01:11 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
    <wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 7:17:25 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 08:52:49 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

    On 11/7/2021 7:22 AM, knuttle wrote:
    On 11/7/2021 7:13 AM, Bob Davis wrote:
    On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 3:44:44 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: >> >>>> On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 7:53:10 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 10/8/2021 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:13:18 PM UTC-5,
    wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC-5,
    keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 10/3/2021 10:47 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
    I should have posted this on my original thread, but someone >> >>>>>>>>>> hijacked it into a discussion about routers (huh?).

    One of these years I will finish this project. I feel like a >> >>>>>>>>>> finishing fool. I hate finishing but maybe I am getting to
    where I can tolerate it with this project. The results are
    rewarding.

    Here is one I made a few years ago. These are fun projects.

    https://i.ibb.co/hKzmryW/333091-2366788361687-99785555-o.jpg

    That is nice looking! Did you design in or use plans.
    Thanks! I went to an art store and took measurements and pictures of
    one they had for sale. I asked first.
    I did a similar thing before building a fish tank stand. I went to an
    aquarium shop and measured a
    couple of ones that I liked. When the employee asked if I needed any >> >>>> help, I said no and then fibbed
    a little. "I'm taking some measurements so I can see where it will fit."

    Part of that was somewhat true. ;-)

    It feels like I have been finishing for weeks. I am finally getting >> >>> into the final assembly and glue up stages. This update shows the
    section called the penthouse. It houses pulleys for cables to the
    counterbalance weights. Obviously when I originally designed this
    easel, I was enamoured with dowel joints. That was before I acquired a
    Festool domino. I still think a good dowel jig has its place. I use >> >>> the dowelmax jig.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

    How are you going to support the sled portion once it is the desired >> >> position. Friction against the main frame? Clamps on the lifting
    ropes? , etc.


    Probably speaking out of place here but IIRC Bob is going to use a
    counter balance.
    Wouldn't a brake of some sort still be needed. Depending on the
    weight of the canvas it would go up or down, no? It would be annoying
    for the thing to move when you use a roller, too.

    The thing is so obtuse that I really don't know how to put in words. The canvass is locked down until the artist releases it to move it up/down/left/right/tilt forward/tilt back. I'll make a video showing all the operations, including locking when it
    is done. Progress is accelerating. I've added new pictures showing the main support structure dry fitted. Part of this structure is built with cross-dowels so it can be dissassembled for moving. I included a photo showing an example.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Yes, the dowels act as the "brake" or stop. The counterbalance is
    just that. It doesn't hold it in place (didn't see how that would
    work).
    Tonight's glue-up answers the question "Where's the beef?" This is a main supporting structure for the easel. It is made of 8/4 quartersawn white oak. Joints are multiple 2" x 3/8" dowels. This uses all the tricks in my clamp tool box: bessy clamp
    extenders, woodpecker metal right angles, and festool vaccum clamps. Certainly this is not all required, but it sure took the stress out of setting this up. I did not glue this all at once. I glued one joint at a time and used the woodpecker metal
    angles to ensure it was square. The final assembly as shown is actually just glueing the top cross piece on.

    https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGhtLJ3JGZyhe

    Bob

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