I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane making,
some of them good.
TW
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane making,
some of them good.
TW
On 10/31/2022 7:39 AM, TimW wrote:
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane making,
some of them good.
TW
My first thought is that plane making is an old technology that has been >perfected over decades, and that you should take advantage of it if you
are going to make some. Not really a book on plane *making*, but
Garrett Hack's book, "The Handplane Book", made me fall in love with >handplanes. I just looked it up to figure out whether "handplane" is >supposed to be one word or two, and noticed that it is currently $82
(ouch) at Amazon. Your local library probably has a copy! I noticed
they had several books on "plane making" for under $20.
If your scraper plane is supposed to produce a "ribbon", as I expect,
then I think that the "details" (involving the tongue and chip breaker
etc.) will be critical to its performance.
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane making,
some of them good.
On 10/31/2022 7:39 AM, TimW wrote:
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane making,
some of them good.
TW
Do a little research for Steve Knight planes. I have one of his and it
is a joy to use. The blade is very important too.
https://www.handplane.com/7/knight-toolworks-good-solid-handplanes/
https://www.finewoodworking.com/2010/10/28/interview-with-plane-maker-steve-knight
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane making,
some of them good.
TW
On 10/31/2022 7:39 AM, TimW wrote:
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane
making, some of them good.
TW
Do a little research for Steve Knight planes. I have one of his and it
is a joy to use. The blade is very important too.
https://www.handplane.com/7/knight-toolworks-good-solid-handplanes/
https://www.finewoodworking.com/2010/10/28/interview-with-plane-maker-steve-knight
On 10/31/2022 8:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/31/2022 7:39 AM, TimW wrote:Unfortunately I don't think Steve is in business anymore.  I used to
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg
vertical for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a
starting point online somewhere? where? I see there are a few
youtubes of plane making, some of them good.
TW
Do a little research for Steve Knight planes. I have one of his and
it is a joy to use. The blade is very important too.
https://www.handplane.com/7/knight-toolworks-good-solid-handplanes/
https://www.finewoodworking.com/2010/10/28/interview-with-plane-maker-steve-knight
sell him the Ipe "frogs" for his planes 20 years ago but I think he
switched over to providing the planes as a kit.  And I have not seen anything from him in a very long time.
On 11/1/2022 11:42 AM, Leon wrote:
On 10/31/2022 8:21 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/31/2022 7:39 AM, TimW wrote:Unfortunately I don't think Steve is in business anymore.  I used to
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg
vertical for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a
starting point online somewhere? where? I see there are a few
youtubes of plane making, some of them good.
TW
Do a little research for Steve Knight planes. I have one of his and
it is a joy to use. The blade is very important too.
https://www.handplane.com/7/knight-toolworks-good-solid-handplanes/
https://www.finewoodworking.com/2010/10/28/interview-with-plane-maker-steve-knight
sell him the Ipe "frogs" for his planes 20 years ago but I think he
switched over to providing the planes as a kit.  And I have not seen
anything from him in a very long time.
OTOH, the OP was looking for a drawing as a starting point. He could
get some good ideas from photos of Knight planes for style and proportion.
Unfortunately I don't think Steve is in business anymore. I used to
sell him the Ipe "frogs" for his planes 20 years ago but I think he
switched over to providing the planes as a kit. And I have not seen
anything from him in a very long time.
OTOH, the OP was looking for a drawing as a starting point. He could
get some good ideas from photos of Knight planes for style and proportion.
Absolutely, If you can get detailed multi angled pictures.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> on Wed, 2 Nov 2022 07:55:21 -0500 typed
in rec.woodworking the following:
Unfortunately I don't think Steve is in business anymore. I used to
sell him the Ipe "frogs" for his planes 20 years ago but I think he
switched over to providing the planes as a kit. And I have not seen
anything from him in a very long time.
OTOH, the OP was looking for a drawing as a starting point. He could
get some good ideas from photos of Knight planes for style and proportion.
Absolutely, If you can get detailed multi angled pictures.Do you guys need complete orthographic projection drawings to make everything, or can you draw up your own "working" drawings based on
what you've seen and how you figure it ought to go?
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."
On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:11:46 AM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: >> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> on Wed, 2 Nov 2022 07:55:21 -0500 typed
in rec.woodworking the following:
Do you guys need complete orthographic projection drawings to make
Unfortunately I don't think Steve is in business anymore. I used to
sell him the Ipe "frogs" for his planes 20 years ago but I think he
switched over to providing the planes as a kit. And I have not seen
anything from him in a very long time.
OTOH, the OP was looking for a drawing as a starting point. He could
get some good ideas from photos of Knight planes for style and proportion.
Absolutely, If you can get detailed multi angled pictures.
everything, or can you draw up your own "working" drawings based on
what you've seen and how you figure it ought to go?
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."
Something like this maybe:
https://www.popularwoodworking.com/editors-blog/make-a-scraper-plane/
On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:11:46 AM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> on Wed, 2 Nov 2022 07:55:21 -0500 typed
in rec.woodworking the following:
Do you guys need complete orthographic projection drawings to make
Unfortunately I don't think Steve is in business anymore. I used to >>>>> sell him the Ipe "frogs" for his planes 20 years ago but I think he
switched over to providing the planes as a kit. And I have not seen >>>>> anything from him in a very long time.
OTOH, the OP was looking for a drawing as a starting point. He could
get some good ideas from photos of Knight planes for style and proportion. >>>
Absolutely, If you can get detailed multi angled pictures.
everything, or can you draw up your own "working" drawings based on
what you've seen and how you figure it ought to go?
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."
Something like this maybe:
https://www.popularwoodworking.com/editors-blog/make-a-scraper-plane/
TimW <timw@nothanks.com> on Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:39:24 +0000 typed in rec.woodworking the following:
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane making,
some of them good.
Sounds like you want a tool for holding a scraper.
The trick here is getting the proper edge on the scraper.
Basically, you want to roll the edge of the scraper to put a fine burr
on the blade.
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the L is where the edge has been "pushed over" making the burr which
does the actual "scrape" to remover wood fibers.
Scraper planes just hold the scraper at the proper angle vertically to
have that L engage the wood. Easier on the thumbs.
If you google on scraper blade planes you find all sort of images. Personally, this week, I'm not doing enough to justify the hassle of
setting up a scraper plane. Next month is another subject.
On 31/10/2022 21:23, pyotr filipivich wrote:
TimW <timw@nothanks.com> on Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:39:24 +0000 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane making, >>> some of them good.
Sounds like you want a tool for holding a scraper.
The trick here is getting the proper edge on the scraper.
Basically, you want to roll the edge of the scraper to put a fine burr
on the blade.
(ASCII art follows)
|
|
|
|
|
L
the L is where the edge has been "pushed over" making the burr which
does the actual "scrape" to remover wood fibers.
Scraper planes just hold the scraper at the proper angle vertically to
have that L engage the wood. Easier on the thumbs.
If you google on scraper blade planes you find all sort of images.
Personally, this week, I'm not doing enough to justify the hassle of
setting up a scraper plane. Next month is another subject.
I know what you are talking about but I am after something else. Like
when you take the iron out of a plane and scrape with it: no burr and
not at an oblique angle but scraping with it at 90 degrees.
TimW <timw@nothanks.com> on Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:39:24 +0000 typed in rec.woodworking the following:
I am thinking of making myself an item I believe is called a scraper
plane; a short block plane with a blade at or nearly at 90deg vertical
for difficult grain. Would i find a good drawing as a starting point
online somewhere? where? I see there are a few youtubes of plane making,
some of them good.
Sounds like you want a tool for holding a scraper.
The trick here is getting the proper edge on the scraper.
Basically, you want to roll the edge of the scraper to put a fine burr
on the blade.
(ASCII art follows)
|
|
|
|
|
L
the L is where the edge has been "pushed over" making the burr which
does the actual "scrape" to remover wood fibers.
Scraper planes just hold the scraper at the proper angle vertically to
have that L engage the wood. Easier on the thumbs.
If you google on scraper blade planes you find all sort of images. Personally, this week, I'm not doing enough to justify the hassle of
setting up a scraper plane. Next month is another subject.
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