On 8/22/2022 5:14 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/21/2022 6:34 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 09:21:57 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 8/20/2022 3:37 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/20/2022 6:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I >>>>>> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot >>>>>> and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits >>>>>> into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not >>>>>> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a >>>>>> knife blade.
Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
You could probably fashion a blade for the end of your favorite "box >>>>> cutter". Maybe it would last longer than the kind you buy 12 for
$2. An
envelope opener also comes to mind. Filet knives (for fish) have
flexible blades. Good luck with your project! : )
They could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead of >>>> pin hooks.
Do they make a scroll saw which will handle a blade 1 (one) inch
front to back?
I'll have to take a look at my big scroll saw and see what I think. It
doesn't use the regular pinned scroll saw blades (it can), so it might.
Maybe with some massaging of the blade shape at the ends. I can't
think of why I would want to. Maybe if society breaks down, spares
become unobtainium, and somehow I still have electricity.
Would not a band saw blade make a scroll saw relatively pointless? I
mean are scroll saw blades so expensive that you would want to use make
one out of a band saw blade? Would a scroll saw have the oomph to
power a 1" wide blade?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 19:02:53 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 8/22/2022 5:14 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/21/2022 6:34 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 09:21:57 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 8/20/2022 3:37 PM, Bill wrote:
On 8/20/2022 6:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I >>>>>>> found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot >>>>>>> and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits >>>>>>> into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not >>>>>>> exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a >>>>>>> knife blade.
Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
You could probably fashion a blade for the end of your favorite "box >>>>>> cutter". Maybe it would last longer than the kind you buy 12 for
$2. An
envelope opener also comes to mind. Filet knives (for fish) have
flexible blades. Good luck with your project! : )
They could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead of >>>>> pin hooks.
Do they make a scroll saw which will handle a blade 1 (one) inch
front to back?
I'll have to take a look at my big scroll saw and see what I think. It
doesn't use the regular pinned scroll saw blades (it can), so it might.
Maybe with some massaging of the blade shape at the ends. I can't
think of why I would want to. Maybe if society breaks down, spares
become unobtainium, and somehow I still have electricity.
Would not a band saw blade make a scroll saw relatively pointless? I
mean are scroll saw blades so expensive that you would want to use make
one out of a band saw blade? Would a scroll saw have the oomph to
power a 1" wide blade?
Cutting out a hole is about the only thing a scroll saw can do that
you can't with a bandsaw. Unless you want to break and reweld the
blade over and over.
Jack <jbst...@comcast.net> on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 11:54:45 -0400 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 8/21/2022 2:57 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 8/20/2022 6:05 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a >>>>> knife blade.
Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
They could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked, >not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it? Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As thesaying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
When making something from scratch, do you make your own scratch?
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional
I just built.
Define worth it.
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead >>> >>> of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked, >>> >not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used >>> >a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional
I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
In the case of the cedar sectional - it is not something bought,
but made by Some One. (I made my younger brother a submarine for
Christmas when I was in the fifth grade. Years later, my Dad told me
he kept that for years, because his older brother had made it for
_him_.)
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead >>>> >>> of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old >>>> >24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked, >>>> >not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used >>>> >a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional
I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because >>we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
krw@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700 >>>(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead >>>>> >>> of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old >>>>> >24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked, >>>>> >not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used >>>>> >a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I >>>>> could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional >>>>I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because >>>we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots
of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
Whatever I built will probably have a certain amount of 1970s
aesthetic: pine boards & plywood.
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed in >rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich >><ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700 >>>(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old >>>>> >24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I >>>>> could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional >>>>I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same peopleI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots
of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're
great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old >> >>>>> >24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I >> >>>>> could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional >> >>>>I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots
of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very
cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're
great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes back
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't
remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
I used it to repurpose an old hutch as an kitchen island for my
daughter's apartment. The bead board from the top section of
the hutch was used to finish the back of the island.
https://i.imgur.com/APe7QHo.jpg
On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional >> >>>>I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots
of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very
cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're
great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes backThey're not giving anything away but it's not unreasonable for a
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't
remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
countertop, IMO. A 10'x25"x1.5" Maple top. ~$500
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-Unfinished-Maple-10-ft-L-x-25-in-D-x-1-5-in-T-Butcher-Block-Countertop-1525HDMPL-120/310601299>
Or 6'x25"x1.75" for $240
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/ultrahd-72-inch-adjustable-height-heavy-duty-wood-top-workbench/prod22651720?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_2>
And throw away the legs. ;-)
BTW, it's a really good bench. I have two but mine aren't adjustable.
I used it to repurpose an old hutch as an kitchen island for my
daughter's apartment. The bead board from the top section of
the hutch was used to finish the back of the island.
https://i.imgur.com/APe7QHo.jpg
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:01:06 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote: >>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivichThey're not giving anything away but it's not unreasonable for a
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700 >>>>>>> (PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As the >>>>>>>>> saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I >>>>>>>>> could buy for 2.50."They could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work. >>>>>>>>>>
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional >>>>>>>> I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk >>>>>>> I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale. >>>>>>> "Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots >>>>> of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very >>>> cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're
great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes back
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't
remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
countertop, IMO. A 10'x25"x1.5" Maple top. ~$500
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-Unfinished-Maple-10-ft-L-x-25-in-D-x-1-5-in-T-Butcher-Block-Countertop-1525HDMPL-120/310601299>
Or 6'x25"x1.75" for $240
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/ultrahd-72-inch-adjustable-height-heavy-duty-wood-top-workbench/prod22651720?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_2>
And throw away the legs. ;-)
BTW, it's a really good bench. I have two but mine aren't adjustable.
They might be OK for a fairly large shop but all that emptiness underneath seems like a huge waste.
My main workbench has a full depth shelf on the bottom and half depth
shelf half way up. There's a couple of full depth, full extension drawers too.
My narrower side bench/miter saw station has a chest of drawers
underneath it. (Leon says I need to refinish that)
I used it to repurpose an old hutch as an kitchen island for my
daughter's apartment. The bead board from the top section of
the hutch was used to finish the back of the island.
https://i.imgur.com/APe7QHo.jpg
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:01:06 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:They're not giving anything away but it's not unreasonable for a
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional
I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots
of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very
cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're
great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes back
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't
remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
countertop, IMO. A 10'x25"x1.5" Maple top. ~$500
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-Unfinished-Maple-10-ft-L-x-25-in-D-x-1-5-in-T-Butcher-Block-Countertop-1525HDMPL-120/310601299>
Or 6'x25"x1.75" for $240
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/ultrahd-72-inch-adjustable-height-heavy-duty-wood-top-workbench/prod22651720?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_2>
And throw away the legs. ;-)
BTW, it's a really good bench. I have two but mine aren't adjustable.
They might be OK for a fairly large shop but all that emptiness underneath >seems like a huge waste.
My main workbench has a full depth shelf on the bottom and half depth
shelf half way up. There's a couple of full depth, full extension drawers too.
My narrower side bench/miter saw station has a chest of drawers
underneath it. (Leon says I need to refinish that)
On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 18:52:22 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:01:06 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivichThey're not giving anything away but it's not unreasonable for a
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700 >> >> >>>(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional
I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk >> >> >>>I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale. >> >> >>>"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots >> >> >of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very >> >> cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're >> >> great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes back
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't
remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
countertop, IMO. A 10'x25"x1.5" Maple top. ~$500
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-Unfinished-Maple-10-ft-L-x-25-in-D-x-1-5-in-T-Butcher-Block-Countertop-1525HDMPL-120/310601299>
Or 6'x25"x1.75" for $240
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/ultrahd-72-inch-adjustable-height-heavy-duty-wood-top-workbench/prod22651720?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_2>
And throw away the legs. ;-)
BTW, it's a really good bench. I have two but mine aren't adjustable.
They might be OK for a fairly large shop but all that emptiness underneath >seems like a huge waste.
My main workbench has a full depth shelf on the bottom and half depth
shelf half way up. There's a couple of full depth, full extension drawers too.
My narrower side bench/miter saw station has a chest of drawers
underneath it. (Leon says I need to refinish that)
It's pretty easy to install any of that under it, particularly a
shelf. It's built like a tank and as stable. I have two in my shop. I
use one with a bench vise and the other with a woodworking vise. For
the price, you can't beat them.
On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 2:31:13 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 18:52:22 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:01:06 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03It's pretty easy to install any of that under it, particularly a
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivichThey're not giving anything away but it's not unreasonable for a
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700 >> >> >> >>>(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional
I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk >> >> >> >>>I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale. >> >> >> >>>"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots >> >> >> >of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a >> >> >> >new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very >> >> >> cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're >> >> >> great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes back
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't
remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
countertop, IMO. A 10'x25"x1.5" Maple top. ~$500
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-Unfinished-Maple-10-ft-L-x-25-in-D-x-1-5-in-T-Butcher-Block-Countertop-1525HDMPL-120/310601299>
Or 6'x25"x1.75" for $240
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/ultrahd-72-inch-adjustable-height-heavy-duty-wood-top-workbench/prod22651720?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_2>
And throw away the legs. ;-)
BTW, it's a really good bench. I have two but mine aren't adjustable.
They might be OK for a fairly large shop but all that emptiness underneath >> >seems like a huge waste.
My main workbench has a full depth shelf on the bottom and half depth
shelf half way up. There's a couple of full depth, full extension drawers too.
My narrower side bench/miter saw station has a chest of drawers
underneath it. (Leon says I need to refinish that)
shelf. It's built like a tank and as stable. I have two in my shop. I
use one with a bench vise and the other with a woodworking vise. For
the price, you can't beat them.
I'm pretty sure I beat the price with my set-up.
The main bench, 96" x 32", came with the house. Made from 1950's era
2 x material. (1 3/4" x 3 3/4", 1 3/4" x 9" for the shelves, etc.) Rock solid. >Free.
The 6' solid wood chest of drawers was obtained via a Craigslist curb
alert. Rock solid. Free.
The 1 1/2" thick melamine topper for the chest of drawers came from
my dentist's office when he remodeled a quarter century ago. Rock
solid. Free.
But! If I ever need to set up a new shop, I'll certainly consider the ones >that you suggested.
On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 16:06:29 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 2:31:13 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 18:52:22 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:01:06 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:It's pretty easy to install any of that under it, particularly a
On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03They might be OK for a fairly large shop but all that emptiness underneath
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:They're not giving anything away but it's not unreasonable for a
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People >> >> >> talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As the >> >> >> >>>>> saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something IThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work. >> >> >> >>>>> >
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional
I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because >> >> >> >>>we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots
of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of >> >> >> >traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the >> >> >> stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're
great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes back
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't
remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
countertop, IMO. A 10'x25"x1.5" Maple top. ~$500
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-Unfinished-Maple-10-ft-L-x-25-in-D-x-1-5-in-T-Butcher-Block-Countertop-1525HDMPL-120/310601299>
Or 6'x25"x1.75" for $240
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/ultrahd-72-inch-adjustable-height-heavy-duty-wood-top-workbench/prod22651720?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_2>
And throw away the legs. ;-)
BTW, it's a really good bench. I have two but mine aren't adjustable. >> >
seems like a huge waste.
My main workbench has a full depth shelf on the bottom and half depth
shelf half way up. There's a couple of full depth, full extension drawers too.
My narrower side bench/miter saw station has a chest of drawers
underneath it. (Leon says I need to refinish that)
shelf. It's built like a tank and as stable. I have two in my shop. I
use one with a bench vise and the other with a woodworking vise. For
the price, you can't beat them.
I'm pretty sure I beat the price with my set-up.
The main bench, 96" x 32", came with the house. Made from 1950's era
2 x material. (1 3/4" x 3 3/4", 1 3/4" x 9" for the shelves, etc.) Rock solid.
Free.
The 6' solid wood chest of drawers was obtained via a Craigslist curb >alert. Rock solid. Free.
The 1 1/2" thick melamine topper for the chest of drawers came from
my dentist's office when he remodeled a quarter century ago. Rock
solid. Free.
But! If I ever need to set up a new shop, I'll certainly consider the ones >that you suggested.You mean that I can't talk you into replacing all that with a
Sjöbergs?
On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03Not sure if you have any around you, but keep an eye out for a Lumber Liquidators...I have seen butcher block tops at a reasonable cost, (full transparency, a pre Covid...)
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional >> >>>>I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots
of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very
cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're
great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes backThey're not giving anything away but it's not unreasonable for a
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't
remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
countertop, IMO. A 10'x25"x1.5" Maple top. ~$500
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-Unfinished-Maple-10-ft-L-x-25-in-D-x-1-5-in-T-Butcher-Block-Countertop-1525HDMPL-120/310601299>
Or 6'x25"x1.75" for $240
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/ultrahd-72-inch-adjustable-height-heavy-duty-wood-top-workbench/prod22651720?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_2>
And throw away the legs. ;-)
BTW, it's a really good bench. I have two but mine aren't adjustable.
I used it to repurpose an old hutch as an kitchen island for my
daughter's apartment. The bead board from the top section of
the hutch was used to finish the back of the island.
https://i.imgur.com/APe7QHo.jpg
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:01:06 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03Not sure if you have any around you, but keep an eye out for a Lumber Liquidators...I have seen butcher block tops at a reasonable cost, (full transparency, a pre Covid...)
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:They're not giving anything away but it's not unreasonable for a
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional
I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots
of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very
cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're
great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes back
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't
remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
countertop, IMO. A 10'x25"x1.5" Maple top. ~$500
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-Unfinished-Maple-10-ft-L-x-25-in-D-x-1-5-in-T-Butcher-Block-Countertop-1525HDMPL-120/310601299>
Or 6'x25"x1.75" for $240
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/ultrahd-72-inch-adjustable-height-heavy-duty-wood-top-workbench/prod22651720?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_2>
And throw away the legs. ;-)
BTW, it's a really good bench. I have two but mine aren't adjustable.
I used it to repurpose an old hutch as an kitchen island for my
daughter's apartment. The bead board from the top section of
the hutch was used to finish the back of the island.
https://i.imgur.com/APe7QHo.jpg
I would stay away from IKEA, I don't think I have the space to assemble a wood counter ;)
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:01:06 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 2:22:05 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:43:44 -0400 typed inI've seen that too. I don't know what anyone sees in IKEA. People
rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:30:51 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:49:56 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
Like so many things: is "making it yourself" worth it? As theThey could be used in a decent pro scroll saw that has clamps instead
of pin hooks.
1" blade is pretty big for a scroll saw blade. I did this with my old
24" Delta/Rockwell scroll saw and 3/16th" BS blade, and while it worked,
not as well as a scroll saw blade and basically was not worth it. I used
a rough, 3 tooth skip blade, not the best for scroll work.
I'd go for the scraper blade myself, but there again, is it really worth it?
saying goes "I'm going to spend 29.95 on supplies to make something I
could buy for 2.50."
Or $1900 on something you could buy for $900, like the cedar sectional
I just built.
Define worth it.
Exactly. Hobbyists have an ability to make Fine Product because
we're not trying to get product out the door in order to meet
overhead.
And it's something we do to entertain ourselves.
Yes, I would really like to just go buy the computer / study desk
I want and be done with it. But I do not see what I want for sale.
"Add it to the list".
And what I do see looks like it came from Ikea.
Yep. Or Walmart (side note: it is funny to see the same people
whining about a new Walmart is a big box store which will bring lots
of traffic, and sells stuff made overseas just swoon when told of a
new Ikea, which is another big box store which will bring lots of
traffic, and sells stuff made overseas.)
talk about how cheap it is to completely transform their kitchen, very >> cheaply with IKEA cabinets. Wha?? The first sink overflow and the
stuff is gone. With all of the plastic in it, it'll dry out in a
decade and they get to do it all over again.
The one thing I did find there was butcher block countertops. They're
great for bench tops. I see them now at Home Depot now, too, so
there's no need to trek into the big city and deal with the IKEA
checkout mess.
I bought a 4' length of butcher block counter top at Lowes backThey're not giving anything away but it's not unreasonable for a countertop, IMO. A 10'x25"x1.5" Maple top. ~$500
in 2017. A 4' x 2' slab, sealed in plastic. They had 6' and 8'too.
I just looked it up the 4' piece and it's almost $200 now. I don't >remember what I paid, but it was nowhere near $200. I'm
thinking way less than $100. $60 comes to mind.
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/HARDWOOD-REFLECTIONS-Unfinished-Maple-10-ft-L-x-25-in-D-x-1-5-in-T-Butcher-Block-Countertop-1525HDMPL-120/310601299>
Or 6'x25"x1.75" for $240
<https://www.samsclub.com/p/ultrahd-72-inch-adjustable-height-heavy-duty-wood-top-workbench/prod22651720?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_2>
And throw away the legs. ;-)
BTW, it's a really good bench. I have two but mine aren't adjustable.
I used it to repurpose an old hutch as an kitchen island for my >daughter's apartment. The bead board from the top section of
the hutch was used to finish the back of the island.
Not sure if you have any around you, but keep an eye out for a Lumber Liquidators...I have seen butcher block tops at a reasonable cost, (full transparency, a pre Covid...)https://i.imgur.com/APe7QHo.jpg
I would stay away from IKEA, I don't think I have the space to assemble a wood counter ;)
Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
knife blade.
Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 6:06:49 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote:projects.
Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
knife blade.
Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
I'm late to this... was off doing another one of my expedition bicycle trips. ;~)
Anyhow, broken bandsaw blades make good stock for shop made scratch stocks. These can be used for making decorative beads on furniture, guns, etc. An associate of mine uses one to make a trench into which contrasting wood can be inserted on small
If you aren't familiar with them Woodcraft sells a fancy one by Hock.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/hock-scratch-stock?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnP-ZBhDiARIsAH3FSRdE8V7uDs05dQKfyMxMKBuG5Hs6ZhMZDnDi1QJCnubNjPgR0St0_VcaAuC1EALw_wcB
John Grossbohlin <gros...@gmail.com> on Fri, 7 Oct 2022 08:10:13projects.
-0700 (PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 6:06:49 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote: >> Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
knife blade.
Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
I'm late to this... was off doing another one of my expedition bicycle trips. ;~)
Anyhow, broken bandsaw blades make good stock for shop made scratch stocks. These can be used for making decorative beads on furniture, guns, etc. An associate of mine uses one to make a trench into which contrasting wood can be inserted on small
If you aren't familiar with them Woodcraft sells a fancy one by Hock.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/hock-scratch-stock?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnP-ZBhDiARIsAH3FSRdE8V7uDs05dQKfyMxMKBuG5Hs6ZhMZDnDi1QJCnubNjPgR0St0_VcaAuC1EALw_wcBLooks cool.
Now to make my own.
There is an old saying about how when one is young, one has time,
but no money; but when one is older one has the money, but no time. I
seem to be in a paradox, I have little time. and little money. Hmmm
... maybe I'm just middle age.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."
Now to make my own.
There is an old saying about how when one is young, one has time,
but no money; but when one is older one has the money, but no time. I
seem to be in a paradox, I have little time. and little money. Hmmm
... maybe I'm just middle age.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."
...and when you retire you'll be so busy you'll wonder how you ever had time for a job. At least that has been my experience... kids, grandkids, elder care, maintenance on aging homes.... all this in the face of diminished capacity...
On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:18:53 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote:projects.
John Grossbohlin <gros...@gmail.com> on Fri, 7 Oct 2022 08:10:13
-0700 (PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 6:06:49 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote: >> >> Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
knife blade.
Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
I'm late to this... was off doing another one of my expedition bicycle trips. ;~)
Anyhow, broken bandsaw blades make good stock for shop made scratch stocks. These can be used for making decorative beads on furniture, guns, etc. An associate of mine uses one to make a trench into which contrasting wood can be inserted on small
Looks cool.
If you aren't familiar with them Woodcraft sells a fancy one by Hock.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/hock-scratch-stock?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnP-ZBhDiARIsAH3FSRdE8V7uDs05dQKfyMxMKBuG5Hs6ZhMZDnDi1QJCnubNjPgR0St0_VcaAuC1EALw_wcB
Now to make my own.
There is an old saying about how when one is young, one has time,
but no money; but when one is older one has the money, but no time. I
seem to be in a paradox, I have little time. and little money. Hmmm
... maybe I'm just middle age.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."
...and when you retire you'll be so busy you'll wonder how you ever had time for a job. At least that has been my experience... kids, grandkids, elder care, maintenance on aging homes.... all this in the face of diminished capacity...
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 16:20:11 -0700 (PDT), John Grossbohlin <gros...@gmail.com> wrote:projects.
On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:18:53 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote: >> John Grossbohlin <gros...@gmail.com> on Fri, 7 Oct 2022 08:10:13
-0700 (PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 6:06:49 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
knife blade.
Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
I'm late to this... was off doing another one of my expedition bicycle trips. ;~)
Anyhow, broken bandsaw blades make good stock for shop made scratch stocks. These can be used for making decorative beads on furniture, guns, etc. An associate of mine uses one to make a trench into which contrasting wood can be inserted on small
Looks cool.
If you aren't familiar with them Woodcraft sells a fancy one by Hock.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/hock-scratch-stock?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnP-ZBhDiARIsAH3FSRdE8V7uDs05dQKfyMxMKBuG5Hs6ZhMZDnDi1QJCnubNjPgR0St0_VcaAuC1EALw_wcB
Now to make my own.
There is an old saying about how when one is young, one has time,
but no money; but when one is older one has the money, but no time. I
seem to be in a paradox, I have little time. and little money. Hmmm
... maybe I'm just middle age.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."
...and when you retire you'll be so busy you'll wonder how you ever had time for a job. At least that has been my experience... kids, grandkids, elder care, maintenance on aging homes.... all this in the face of diminished capacity...You forgot, going to the gym, then to the doctor, so you don't have to
see ever more doctors.
I told my wife that I'm collecting "ists", so far I have a
cardiologist, electro-physiologist, two orthopedists, a
rheumatologist, a neurologist, and an endocrinologist on hold.
My wife replied that there is one I can't have, a gynecologist. I told
her that these days, who knows???
On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 10:36:16 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:projects.
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 16:20:11 -0700 (PDT), John Grossbohlin
<gros...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:18:53 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote: >> >> John Grossbohlin <gros...@gmail.com> on Fri, 7 Oct 2022 08:10:13
-0700 (PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 6:06:49 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Greetings all
Whilst cleaning out yet another box/container marked "Stuff" I
found that I have two "bits" of 1 inch band saw blade, about a foot
and a half in length. Having seen videos on how to turn spade bits
into router irons, I have two questions:
1) "What was I thinking?"
2) what can be done with a piece of band saw blade? It is not
exactly stiff enough for use in plane, although it might work for a
knife blade.
Any ideas for "alternative" uses?
I'm late to this... was off doing another one of my expedition bicycle trips. ;~)
Anyhow, broken bandsaw blades make good stock for shop made scratch stocks. These can be used for making decorative beads on furniture, guns, etc. An associate of mine uses one to make a trench into which contrasting wood can be inserted on small
You forgot, going to the gym, then to the doctor, so you don't have toLooks cool.
If you aren't familiar with them Woodcraft sells a fancy one by Hock.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/hock-scratch-stock?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnP-ZBhDiARIsAH3FSRdE8V7uDs05dQKfyMxMKBuG5Hs6ZhMZDnDi1QJCnubNjPgR0St0_VcaAuC1EALw_wcB
Now to make my own.
There is an old saying about how when one is young, one has time,
but no money; but when one is older one has the money, but no time. I
seem to be in a paradox, I have little time. and little money. Hmmm
... maybe I'm just middle age.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."
...and when you retire you'll be so busy you'll wonder how you ever had time for a job. At least that has been my experience... kids, grandkids, elder care, maintenance on aging homes.... all this in the face of diminished capacity...
see ever more doctors.
I told my wife that I'm collecting "ists", so far I have a
cardiologist, electro-physiologist, two orthopedists, a
rheumatologist, a neurologist, and an endocrinologist on hold.
My wife replied that there is one I can't have, a gynecologist. I told
her that these days, who knows???
You can tell your wife that she is wrong, if you dare.
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/health/2013/12/10/you-were-wondering-can-a-gynecologist-see-men/3924725/
On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 18:58:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
I'm surprised most of those things aren't treated by urologists. OTOH,
I thought a gynecologist might get involved in breast cancer but I
guess that's in the purview of oncologists. The edges of some of these
things gets fuzzy.
On 10/13/2022 12:03 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 18:58:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03I used to have an optometrist who did ophthalmology "as sort of a hobby"
I'm surprised most of those things aren't treated by urologists. OTOH,
I thought a gynecologist might get involved in breast cancer but I
guess that's in the purview of oncologists. The edges of some of these things gets fuzzy.
(I think "hobby" was his word, he said he "kept up" with it). He
billed the insurance company (and me) for his exams as though he was an ophthalmologist too. When he got to the point of being on the verge of prescribing medication for me, I informed him that I would visit a credentialed ophthalmologist before that happened. He did not refer me
to one or even suggest that I visit one either, which seems a little irresponsible to me now, in retrospect. The pressure in my eyes has
been a little high all of my life, so it doesn't alarm me as much as it alerts optometrists (it's the "changes" which are most significant, and
most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient). Like it
is was said above, the edges of some of these things can get fuzzy (no
pun intended).
On 10/13/2022 12:03 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 18:58:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
I'm surprised most of those things aren't treated by urologists. OTOH,
I thought a gynecologist might get involved in breast cancer but I
guess that's in the purview of oncologists. The edges of some of these
things gets fuzzy.
I used to have an optometrist who did ophthalmology "as sort of a hobby"
(I think "hobby" was his word, he said he "kept up" with it). He
billed the insurance company (and me) for his exams as though he was an >ophthalmologist too. When he got to the point of being on the verge of >prescribing medication for me, I informed him that I would visit a >credentialed ophthalmologist before that happened. He did not refer me
to one or even suggest that I visit one either, which seems a little >irresponsible to me now, in retrospect. The pressure in my eyes has
been a little high all of my life, so it doesn't alarm me as much as it >alerts optometrists (it's the "changes" which are most significant, and
most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient). Like it
is was said above, the edges of some of these things can get fuzzy (no
pun intended).
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:39:01 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
On 10/13/2022 12:03 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 18:58:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03I used to have an optometrist who did ophthalmology "as sort of a hobby"
I'm surprised most of those things aren't treated by urologists. OTOH,
I thought a gynecologist might get involved in breast cancer but I
guess that's in the purview of oncologists. The edges of some of these
things gets fuzzy.
(I think "hobby" was his word, he said he "kept up" with it). He
billed the insurance company (and me) for his exams as though he was an
ophthalmologist too. When he got to the point of being on the verge of
prescribing medication for me, I informed him that I would visit a
credentialed ophthalmologist before that happened. He did not refer me
to one or even suggest that I visit one either, which seems a little
irresponsible to me now, in retrospect. The pressure in my eyes has
been a little high all of my life, so it doesn't alarm me as much as it
alerts optometrists (it's the "changes" which are most significant, and
most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient). Like it
is was said above, the edges of some of these things can get fuzzy (no
pun intended).
While there is history of Glaucoma in my family, I have elevated pressures >but it's not related to Glaucoma. I have thick corneas which tend to make
the pressures read higher. (My brother has the same "issue".)
re: "most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient"
I have not found that to be the case. Every optometrist I've ever been to >have put me on a regular Glaucoma testing schedule (field of vision, etc.)
No one has said "It's just thick corneas, don't worry about it." They factor >in the few points higher due to the corneas but they don't ignore the family >history.
In a couple of weeks I'm having cataract surgery. I've reached the point where >glasses just don't work anymore. The foggy vision, the muted colors, etc. The >headlight glare from the new LED headlights is becoming a safety issue. I'm >going above and beyond the basic replacement lenses that insurance covers
in the hope of eliminating the need for glasses all together. Worst case is I'll
still need reading glasses for very fine work. I'm hoping and praying for the >best case.
The thing about going back to "sometimes needing readers" is that you are >always looking for those damn readers. Just like having multiple tape measures,
there's never a pair of readers nearby when you need them. When you need
to wear glasses 24-7, you always know where they are. ;-)
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:39:01 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
re: "most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient"
I have not found that to be the case. Every optometrist I've ever been to have put me on a regular Glaucoma testing schedule (field of vision, etc.)
No one has said "It's just thick corneas, don't worry about it."
In a couple of weeks I'm having cataract surgery. I've reached the point where
glasses just don't work anymore. The foggy vision, the muted colors, etc. The headlight glare from the new LED headlights is becoming a safety issue. I'm going above and beyond the basic replacement lenses that insurance covers
in the hope of eliminating the need for glasses all together. Worst case is I'll
still need reading glasses for very fine work. I'm hoping and praying for the best case.
On 10/13/2022 8:42 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:39:01 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
re: "most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient"
I have not found that to be the case. Every optometrist I've ever been to have put me on a regular Glaucoma testing schedule (field of vision, etc.) No one has said "It's just thick corneas, don't worry about it."Yes, I agree. They all keep records. Especially the optometrist I
mentioned. His testing was on the order of $350 per visit. He seemed to
enjoy that he had a patient that made his work slightly more interesting
for him. We would compare pictures of my retina, etc.
In a couple of weeks I'm having cataract surgery. I've reached the point wherePlease accept my best wishes with your surgery! Each of my parents had
glasses just don't work anymore. The foggy vision, the muted colors, etc. The
headlight glare from the new LED headlights is becoming a safety issue. I'm going above and beyond the basic replacement lenses that insurance covers in the hope of eliminating the need for glasses all together. Worst case is I'll
still need reading glasses for very fine work. I'm hoping and praying for the
best case.
it and they both had outstanding results--and that was several decades
ago. They just had to wear some particularly protective sunglasses for
a few days following the procedure.
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 10:16:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
On 10/13/2022 8:42 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:39:01 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:Yes, I agree. They all keep records. Especially the optometrist I
re: "most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient"
I have not found that to be the case. Every optometrist I've ever been to >> > have put me on a regular Glaucoma testing schedule (field of vision, etc.) >> > No one has said "It's just thick corneas, don't worry about it."
mentioned. His testing was on the order of $350 per visit. He seemed to
enjoy that he had a patient that made his work slightly more interesting
for him. We would compare pictures of my retina, etc.
Please accept my best wishes with your surgery! Each of my parents had
In a couple of weeks I'm having cataract surgery. I've reached the point where
glasses just don't work anymore. The foggy vision, the muted colors, etc. The
headlight glare from the new LED headlights is becoming a safety issue. I'm
going above and beyond the basic replacement lenses that insurance covers >> > in the hope of eliminating the need for glasses all together. Worst case is I'll
still need reading glasses for very fine work. I'm hoping and praying for the
best case.
it and they both had outstanding results--and that was several decades
ago. They just had to wear some particularly protective sunglasses for
a few days following the procedure.
LMFTFY: procedure*s*
Each eye will be done 3 weeks apart. They do one eye (the non-dominant eye), >then I go back the next day for a follow-up, then another follow-up a week later,
then the other eye 2 weeks after that., then the 2 follow-ups. About a month later,
I go back to my optometrist for a final exam and prescription for glasses if needed.
Hopefully not.
With Covid testing 3 days before each surgery session, I'm looking at 9 >appointments over about 8 weeks.
The interesting part will be the 3 weeks between surgeries. One new lens,
one old one. I've been told that they can give me a contact for the "bad" eye >or a clear lens for my current glasses. Since I wear bi-focals, I don't think >a contact will work.
I have a friend who just went through this with the same surgeon and he
went with the clear lens. He said he had a bit of double vision for the first >week but then his brain adjusted and he was fine. After the second eye
was done, he doesn't need glasses for anything, not even reading or threading >a needle.
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:09:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 10:16:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
On 10/13/2022 8:42 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:39:01 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:Yes, I agree. They all keep records. Especially the optometrist I
re: "most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient"
I have not found that to be the case. Every optometrist I've ever been to
have put me on a regular Glaucoma testing schedule (field of vision, etc.)
No one has said "It's just thick corneas, don't worry about it."
mentioned. His testing was on the order of $350 per visit. He seemed to
enjoy that he had a patient that made his work slightly more interesting >> for him. We would compare pictures of my retina, etc.
Please accept my best wishes with your surgery! Each of my parents had
In a couple of weeks I'm having cataract surgery. I've reached the point where
glasses just don't work anymore. The foggy vision, the muted colors, etc. The
headlight glare from the new LED headlights is becoming a safety issue. I'm
going above and beyond the basic replacement lenses that insurance covers
in the hope of eliminating the need for glasses all together. Worst case is I'll
still need reading glasses for very fine work. I'm hoping and praying for the
best case.
it and they both had outstanding results--and that was several decades
ago. They just had to wear some particularly protective sunglasses for
a few days following the procedure.
LMFTFY: procedure*s*
Each eye will be done 3 weeks apart. They do one eye (the non-dominant eye), >then I go back the next day for a follow-up, then another follow-up a week later,
then the other eye 2 weeks after that., then the 2 follow-ups. About a month later,
I go back to my optometrist for a final exam and prescription for glasses if needed.
Hopefully not.
With Covid testing 3 days before each surgery session, I'm looking at 9 >appointments over about 8 weeks.
The interesting part will be the 3 weeks between surgeries. One new lens, >one old one. I've been told that they can give me a contact for the "bad" eye
or a clear lens for my current glasses. Since I wear bi-focals, I don't think
a contact will work.
I have a friend who just went through this with the same surgeon and he >went with the clear lens. He said he had a bit of double vision for the firstOne of the "tricks" they use to get focus at both close and infinity
week but then his brain adjusted and he was fine. After the second eye
was done, he doesn't need glasses for anything, not even reading or threading
a needle.
is to use a different lens in each eye and let the brain figure it
out. I'm not so sure about that, though. It doesn't always work.
On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 10:52:47 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:09:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 10:16:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:One of the "tricks" they use to get focus at both close and infinity
On 10/13/2022 8:42 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:39:01 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:Yes, I agree. They all keep records. Especially the optometrist I
re: "most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient"
I have not found that to be the case. Every optometrist I've ever been to
have put me on a regular Glaucoma testing schedule (field of vision, etc.)
No one has said "It's just thick corneas, don't worry about it."
mentioned. His testing was on the order of $350 per visit. He seemed to >> >> enjoy that he had a patient that made his work slightly more interesting >> >> for him. We would compare pictures of my retina, etc.
Please accept my best wishes with your surgery! Each of my parents had
In a couple of weeks I'm having cataract surgery. I've reached the point where
glasses just don't work anymore. The foggy vision, the muted colors, etc. The
headlight glare from the new LED headlights is becoming a safety issue. I'm
going above and beyond the basic replacement lenses that insurance covers
in the hope of eliminating the need for glasses all together. Worst case is I'll
still need reading glasses for very fine work. I'm hoping and praying for the
best case.
it and they both had outstanding results--and that was several decades
ago. They just had to wear some particularly protective sunglasses for
a few days following the procedure.
LMFTFY: procedure*s*
Each eye will be done 3 weeks apart. They do one eye (the non-dominant eye),
then I go back the next day for a follow-up, then another follow-up a week later,
then the other eye 2 weeks after that., then the 2 follow-ups. About a month later,
I go back to my optometrist for a final exam and prescription for glasses if needed.
Hopefully not.
With Covid testing 3 days before each surgery session, I'm looking at 9
appointments over about 8 weeks.
The interesting part will be the 3 weeks between surgeries. One new lens, >> >one old one. I've been told that they can give me a contact for the "bad" eye
or a clear lens for my current glasses. Since I wear bi-focals, I don't think
a contact will work.
I have a friend who just went through this with the same surgeon and he
went with the clear lens. He said he had a bit of double vision for the first
week but then his brain adjusted and he was fine. After the second eye
was done, he doesn't need glasses for anything, not even reading or threading
a needle.
is to use a different lens in each eye and let the brain figure it
out. I'm not so sure about that, though. It doesn't always work.
They have newer technology: Multifocal lenses. They use concentric
circles for the various distances and let the brain figure it out from there.
Nothing is perfect, there are pros & cons, YMMV, yada-yada-yada.
<https://www.eyecenterrockies.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-multifocal-intraocular-lenses-iols>
On Sat, 15 Oct 2022 07:56:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 10:52:47 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:09:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 10:16:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:One of the "tricks" they use to get focus at both close and infinity
On 10/13/2022 8:42 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:39:01 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:Yes, I agree. They all keep records. Especially the optometrist I
re: "most doctors don't possess the long term view of the patient"
I have not found that to be the case. Every optometrist I've ever been to
have put me on a regular Glaucoma testing schedule (field of vision, etc.)
No one has said "It's just thick corneas, don't worry about it."
mentioned. His testing was on the order of $350 per visit. He seemed to >> >> enjoy that he had a patient that made his work slightly more interesting
for him. We would compare pictures of my retina, etc.
Please accept my best wishes with your surgery! Each of my parents had >> >> it and they both had outstanding results--and that was several decades >> >> ago. They just had to wear some particularly protective sunglasses for >> >> a few days following the procedure.
In a couple of weeks I'm having cataract surgery. I've reached the point where
glasses just don't work anymore. The foggy vision, the muted colors, etc. The
headlight glare from the new LED headlights is becoming a safety issue. I'm
going above and beyond the basic replacement lenses that insurance covers
in the hope of eliminating the need for glasses all together. Worst case is I'll
still need reading glasses for very fine work. I'm hoping and praying for the
best case.
LMFTFY: procedure*s*
Each eye will be done 3 weeks apart. They do one eye (the non-dominant eye),
then I go back the next day for a follow-up, then another follow-up a week later,
then the other eye 2 weeks after that., then the 2 follow-ups. About a month later,
I go back to my optometrist for a final exam and prescription for glasses if needed.
Hopefully not.
With Covid testing 3 days before each surgery session, I'm looking at 9 >> >appointments over about 8 weeks.
The interesting part will be the 3 weeks between surgeries. One new lens, >> >one old one. I've been told that they can give me a contact for the "bad" eye
or a clear lens for my current glasses. Since I wear bi-focals, I don't think
a contact will work.
I have a friend who just went through this with the same surgeon and he >> >went with the clear lens. He said he had a bit of double vision for the first
week but then his brain adjusted and he was fine. After the second eye
was done, he doesn't need glasses for anything, not even reading or threading
a needle.
is to use a different lens in each eye and let the brain figure it
out. I'm not so sure about that, though. It doesn't always work.
They have newer technology: Multifocal lenses. They use concentric
circles for the various distances and let the brain figure it out from there.
Nothing is perfect, there are pros & cons, YMMV, yada-yada-yada.
<https://www.eyecenterrockies.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-multifocal-intraocular-lenses-iols>It seems like the macula would only focus at infinity and anything
closer would be lower resolution. It would seem weird (not that
different lenses aren't).
They're not cheap, either. Unless I missed something, these are also
needed to correct astigmatism.
I guess I have a couple of years to worry about it.
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