• Re: rail/track saw options

    From ritzannaseaton@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Alex B on Tue Aug 9 16:46:44 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-5, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost £90, the 2800mm tracks cost £77, but when I started checking the
    reviews of the track, it seems to be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap, but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the £150-£250 mark
    for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more?

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    Not sure my opinion is very useful or not. Your price range is about $200-300 USA dollars. Which is what your 150-250 British Pounds translates to. In the USA, the cheapest name brand track saw and rail is the Makita. Its around $400 USA dollars.
    There are many reviews on it saying its good. Personally, I own the Festool electric track saw. Its good too. Probably very comparable in every way to the Makita. I think the Makita is a fair bit cheaper than the Festool. DeWalt is kind of in the
    middle for price. It may be equally good too. All are electric saws. Not the battery models. I cannot and will not speak to which is more desirable, battery or electric.

    Your choice is probably not in the same category as the Festool, Makita, and DeWalt. Guessing its an after the fact copy made in a particular part of the world. It may or may not work good. It may or may not have any warranty. It kind of boils down
    to whether you want to take a risk or not. Spend less and risk the quality. Or spend more and no risk of quality.

    Comparison to cars. Pay more for a Toyota car. Quality is dripping all over it. Run almost forever. Or pay less for a Kia/Hyundai. Not as much quality, not as long lifespan. You know what you are paying for right up front. And the same philosophy
    pretty much applies to the track saws too. And how much you use the saw doesn't really apply for the track saws. I think the quality of the cut, quality of the saw and track, will be evident from day one. Whether you use it for one cut or cuts
    everyday for decades.

    Again, I do not know if your saw is good or bad quality. I do not know. You do not know. Probably no one knows. Are you willing to take a risk to save some money?

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 9 19:59:22 2022
    On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 23:15:03 +0000, Alex B <a89f5d0fde0819d4eb475773eca41137@example.com> wrote:

    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what
    is the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it
    seems to be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost 90, the 2800mm
    tracks cost 77, but when I started checking the reviews of the track,
    it seems to be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a
    lot of DYI and get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something
    that is not crap, but also not expensive. Is there something decent
    around the 150-250 mark for a saw + track of decent size or should I
    be aiming at a lot more?

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to a89f5d0fde0819d4eb475773eca41137@ex on Tue Aug 9 20:38:09 2022
    On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 23:15:03 +0000, Alex B <a89f5d0fde0819d4eb475773eca41137@example.com> wrote:

    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost 90, the 2800mm tracks cost 77, but when I started checking the
    reviews of the track, it seems to be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap, but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the 150-250 mark
    for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more?

    You have only reviews to go on but if they're right? Are you going to
    buy another? I'd spend more up-front and get something you know will
    do the job you want.

    I have Festool, as well. There were only two available when I bought
    mine and not enough difference in price to do anything else but buy
    the Festool. Festool is about 4-5x what you're looking to pay so it's certainly not for you. The middle of the pack may be more what you're
    looking for. I don't know what brands are available to you but I'd
    think long and hard about settling for anything less than what will
    work for you for years. You _don't_ want to make this purchase again.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to a89f5d0fde0819d4eb475773eca41137@ex on Tue Aug 9 20:02:39 2022
    On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 23:15:03 +0000, Alex B <a89f5d0fde0819d4eb475773eca41137@example.com> wrote:

    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to be a interesting DIY option.

    At your price point I think you might want to look at used tool
    market, not sure about where to look as I am in the US. Pawnshops
    though are usually a good place to look.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Alex B on Wed Aug 10 11:46:53 2022
    On 8/9/2022 6:15 PM, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is
    the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution  R185CCSX+ as it seems to
    be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost £90, the 2800mm tracks cost
    £77, but when I started checking the reviews of the track, it seems to
    be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and
    get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap,
    but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the £150-£250
    mark for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more?




    Check YouTube for reviews.

    BUT I do not trust reviews that are made a few weeks/months after the
    purchase. I trust reviews after the product has been used 2+ years.


    But,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfj5e4e1XRU

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  • From Dan Lawson@21:1/5 to Leon on Fri Aug 26 05:06:59 2022
    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 12:47:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 8/9/2022 6:15 PM, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to
    be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost £90, the 2800mm tracks cost £77, but when I started checking the reviews of the track, it seems to
    be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and
    get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap, but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the £150-£250 mark for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more?

    Check YouTube for reviews.

    BUT I do not trust reviews that are made a few weeks/months after the purchase. I trust reviews after the product has been used 2+ years.


    But,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfj5e4e1XRU

    I bought a Grizzly track saw and it worked well (building cabinets) for the price.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to danbiosci@gmail.com on Fri Aug 26 09:39:45 2022
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:06:59 -0700 (PDT), Dan Lawson
    <danbiosci@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 12:47:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 8/9/2022 6:15 PM, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is
    the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to
    be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost 90, the 2800mm tracks cost
    77, but when I started checking the reviews of the track, it seems to
    be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and
    get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap,
    but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the 150-250
    mark for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more? >> >
    Check YouTube for reviews.

    BUT I do not trust reviews that are made a few weeks/months after the
    purchase. I trust reviews after the product has been used 2+ years.


    But,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfj5e4e1XRU

    I bought a Grizzly track saw and it worked well (building cabinets) for the price.

    It looks like Grizzly is just a Kreg retailer. Did they have their own
    at one time?

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Fri Aug 26 11:18:26 2022
    On 8/26/2022 8:39 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:06:59 -0700 (PDT), Dan Lawson
    <danbiosci@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 12:47:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 8/9/2022 6:15 PM, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is >>>> the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to >>>> be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost £90, the 2800mm tracks cost >>>> £77, but when I started checking the reviews of the track, it seems to >>>> be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and >>>> get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap, >>>> but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the £150-£250 >>>> mark for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more? >>>>
    Check YouTube for reviews.

    BUT I do not trust reviews that are made a few weeks/months after the
    purchase. I trust reviews after the product has been used 2+ years.


    But,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfj5e4e1XRU

    I bought a Grizzly track saw and it worked well (building cabinets) for the price.

    It looks like Grizzly is just a Kreg retailer. Did they have their own
    at one time?



    IIRC Grizzly had a track saw before Kreg.

    https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-6-1-4-track-saw-master-pack/t25552


    BUT apparently it now discontinued and other brands have replace the
    Grizzly brand.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Leon on Fri Aug 26 11:08:54 2022
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 12:18:35 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 8/26/2022 8:39 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:06:59 -0700 (PDT), Dan Lawson
    <danb...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 12:47:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 8/9/2022 6:15 PM, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is >>>> the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to >>>> be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost £90, the 2800mm tracks cost >>>> £77, but when I started checking the reviews of the track, it seems to >>>> be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and >>>> get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap, >>>> but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the £150-£250
    mark for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more?

    Check YouTube for reviews.

    BUT I do not trust reviews that are made a few weeks/months after the >>> purchase. I trust reviews after the product has been used 2+ years.


    But,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfj5e4e1XRU

    I bought a Grizzly track saw and it worked well (building cabinets) for the price.

    It looks like Grizzly is just a Kreg retailer. Did they have their own
    at one time?

    IIRC Grizzly had a track saw before Kreg.

    https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-6-1-4-track-saw-master-pack/t25552


    BUT apparently it now discontinued and other brands have replace the
    Grizzly brand.

    One would think (that one being me) that if they had the forethought and resources
    to update that page with "Discontinued" notices, they could have easily added a path
    to other options.

    It wouldn't even have to be product specific. Just a link that uses their own search engine would be helpful. Draw the customer in by making it simple.

    "Click _here_ for other options" where _here_ resolves to:

    https://www.grizzly.com/search?q=trac+saw

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 26 13:58:02 2022
    On 8/26/2022 1:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 12:18:35 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 8/26/2022 8:39 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:06:59 -0700 (PDT), Dan Lawson
    <danb...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 12:47:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 8/9/2022 6:15 PM, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is >>>>>> the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to >>>>>> be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost £90, the 2800mm tracks cost >>>>>> £77, but when I started checking the reviews of the track, it seems to >>>>>> be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and >>>>>> get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap, >>>>>> but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the £150-£250 >>>>>> mark for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more?

    Check YouTube for reviews.

    BUT I do not trust reviews that are made a few weeks/months after the >>>>> purchase. I trust reviews after the product has been used 2+ years.


    But,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfj5e4e1XRU

    I bought a Grizzly track saw and it worked well (building cabinets) for the price.

    It looks like Grizzly is just a Kreg retailer. Did they have their own
    at one time?

    IIRC Grizzly had a track saw before Kreg.

    https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-6-1-4-track-saw-master-pack/t25552 >>

    BUT apparently it now discontinued and other brands have replace the
    Grizzly brand.

    One would think (that one being me) that if they had the forethought and resources
    to update that page with "Discontinued" notices, they could have easily added a path
    to other options.

    It wouldn't even have to be product specific. Just a link that uses their own search engine would be helpful. Draw the customer in by making it simple.

    "Click _here_ for other options" where _here_ resolves to:

    https://www.grizzly.com/search?q=trac+saw



    They are not Festool. ;~)

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 26 22:51:10 2022
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:18:26 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 8/26/2022 8:39 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:06:59 -0700 (PDT), Dan Lawson
    <danbiosci@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 12:47:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 8/9/2022 6:15 PM, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is >>>>> the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to >>>>> be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost 90, the 2800mm tracks cost >>>>> 77, but when I started checking the reviews of the track, it seems to >>>>> be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and >>>>> get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap, >>>>> but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the 150-250 >>>>> mark for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more?

    Check YouTube for reviews.

    BUT I do not trust reviews that are made a few weeks/months after the
    purchase. I trust reviews after the product has been used 2+ years.


    But,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfj5e4e1XRU

    I bought a Grizzly track saw and it worked well (building cabinets) for the price.

    It looks like Grizzly is just a Kreg retailer. Did they have their own
    at one time?



    IIRC Grizzly had a track saw before Kreg.

    https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-6-1-4-track-saw-master-pack/t25552


    BUT apparently it now discontinued and other brands have replace the
    Grizzly brand.

    That looks a lot like the Kreg. Is it just a different color?

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to Alex B on Fri Aug 26 20:47:46 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-5, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost £90, the 2800mm tracks cost £77, but when I started checking the
    reviews of the track, it seems to be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap, but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the £150-£250 mark
    for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more?

    --
    For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/rail-track-saw-options-3224763-.htm

    I know only Makita. I used it tonight. I have zero complaints. It breaks down sheets with easy and accuracy. I'm sure all good ones do.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Sat Aug 27 11:10:33 2022
    On 8/26/2022 9:51 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:18:26 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 8/26/2022 8:39 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:06:59 -0700 (PDT), Dan Lawson
    <danbiosci@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 12:47:03 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 8/9/2022 6:15 PM, Alex B wrote:
    I was looking at an entry level track saw or rail saw (not sure what is >>>>>> the best name) and I was eyeing the Evolution R185CCSX+ as it seems to >>>>>> be a interesting DIY option. The saw cost £90, the 2800mm tracks cost >>>>>> £77, but when I started checking the reviews of the track, it seems to >>>>>> be crap, not accurate. As I'm planning to start doing a lot of DYI and >>>>>> get more into woodwork, I was hoping to get something that is not crap, >>>>>> but also not expensive. Is there something decent around the £150-£250 >>>>>> mark for a saw + track of decent size or should I be aiming at a lot more?

    Check YouTube for reviews.

    BUT I do not trust reviews that are made a few weeks/months after the >>>>> purchase. I trust reviews after the product has been used 2+ years.


    But,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfj5e4e1XRU

    I bought a Grizzly track saw and it worked well (building cabinets) for the price.

    It looks like Grizzly is just a Kreg retailer. Did they have their own
    at one time?



    IIRC Grizzly had a track saw before Kreg.

    https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-6-1-4-track-saw-master-pack/t25552 >>

    BUT apparently it now discontinued and other brands have replace the
    Grizzly brand.

    That looks a lot like the Kreg. Is it just a different color?

    It is a Kreg.

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