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  • Re: Woodpeckers does it again

    From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to k...@notreal.com on Thu Apr 28 09:47:15 2022
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:27:33 AM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.

    I have never understood the value of a drill guide at any price. I use one of these when my drill press cannot do the job.

    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J3ZYEJQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Bob

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 28 12:27:26 2022
    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Thu Apr 28 12:09:33 2022
    On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 12:27:26 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:


    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.

    "But it was on sale"

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to wrobertdavis@gmail.com on Thu Apr 28 13:34:10 2022
    On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT), Bob Davis
    <wrobertdavis@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:27:33 AM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.

    I have never understood the value of a drill guide at any price. I use one of these when my drill press cannot do the job.

    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J3ZYEJQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I have a couple of those but they have problems. I like to see where
    I'm drilling. No, the registration marks on the side aren't enough.
    Forstner bits don't work well with them and the drill size is pretty
    limited.

    The drill guide you referenced is really good for drilling pipe,
    though.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to wrober...@gmail.com on Thu Apr 28 16:51:18 2022
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-4, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:27:33 AM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a 1/2HP motor.
    I have never understood the value of a drill guide at any price. I use one of these when my drill press cannot do the job.

    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J3ZYEJQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Bob

    That won't work for most forstner bits or hole saws.

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  • From Bill@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Thu Apr 28 21:52:36 2022
    On 4/28/2022 12:27 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.

    When I was grownin' up, my dad told me that "There's no problem so small
    that you can't throw a lot of money at it..".

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  • From ritzannaseaton@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 28 21:28:10 2022
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:51:20 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-4, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:27:33 AM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a 1/2HP motor.
    I have never understood the value of a drill guide at any price. I use one of these when my drill press cannot do the job.

    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J3ZYEJQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Bob
    That won't work for most forstner bits or hole saws.

    But would the Woodpecker's drill guide work for forstner or hole saws either? Both of those have center points sticking out a little bit and make contact with the wood before the outer edges of the forstner or hole saw contacts the wood. That center
    point guides, centers, the bit on the wood. I do not think its really possible to use forstner or hole saws at an angle.

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  • From 10x@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Fri Apr 29 08:00:32 2022
    On Apr 28, 2022, krw@notreal.com wrote
    (in article<10gl6h9n8kakavremvq2eldnd97kfsou9i@4ax.com>):


    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.

    Holy $hit $600 + tax & Shipping!

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to russellseaton1@yahoo.com on Fri Apr 29 06:00:05 2022
    On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:28:13 AM UTC-4, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:51:20 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-4, wrober...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:27:33 AM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a 1/2HP motor.
    I have never understood the value of a drill guide at any price. I use one of these when my drill press cannot do the job.

    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J3ZYEJQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Bob
    That won't work for most forstner bits or hole saws.
    But would the Woodpecker's drill guide work for forstner or hole saws either? Both of those have center points sticking out a little bit and make contact with the wood before the outer edges of the forstner or hole saw contacts the wood. That center
    point guides, centers, the bit on the wood. I do not think its really possible to use forstner or hole saws at an angle.

    Use the bit to drill a straight hole in a block of wood and then cut that block at the required angle. The block will guide the forstner or hole saw bit at that
    angle.

    Similarly, a flat guide can be used to enlarge holes where there is no way to center a forstner or hole saw bit. e.g. turning a 2.5" hole in to a 4" hole. BTDT

    Will it work in every situation? No, but to address your comment, it is certainly
    possible to use most bits at an angle.

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  • From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to k...@notreal.com on Fri Apr 29 08:42:23 2022
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 12:34:17 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT), Bob Davis
    <wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:27:33 AM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.

    I have never understood the value of a drill guide at any price. I use one of these when my drill press cannot do the job.

    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J3ZYEJQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    I have a couple of those but they have problems. I like to see where
    I'm drilling. No, the registration marks on the side aren't enough.
    Forstner bits don't work well with them and the drill size is pretty
    limited.

    The drill guide you referenced is really good for drilling pipe,
    though.

    The registration marks work very well for me. I draw long crosshair pencil lines that are visible at all 4 registration marks. I use two clamps to hold it in place.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Fri Apr 29 14:08:59 2022
    On 4/28/2022 11:27 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.


    The price will drop when the Biden administration forgives student debt
    and the designers at woodpeckers don't need as much money.

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  • From John McGaw@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Fri Apr 29 15:27:21 2022
    On 4/28/2022 12:27 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.

    Somehow it seems that, with a few practice runs, I could do the same thing freehand using my Wixey gauge and my Fisch brad point bits with the
    extra-long points. I could certainly get it right within a few degrees
    which is good enough for any woodworking I've experienced.

    --
    Noli sinere pessimi nequissimique te tristificare!

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Fri Apr 29 14:19:14 2022
    On 4/28/2022 11:27 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:

    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.



    This is a LATE April Fools day tool, right? I have never never never
    ever had an issue with using the point of the bit for alignment. But
    waIt !!!! Look for the automatic pencil/pen tool to help you sign
    your name in just the right place in your checkbook.

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  • From Bob Davis@21:1/5 to Leon on Mon May 2 07:47:03 2022
    'On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 2:19:23 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 4/28/2022 11:27 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:

    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a 1/2HP motor.
    This is a LATE April Fools day tool, right? I have never never never
    ever had an issue with using the point of the bit for alignment. But
    waIt !!!! Look for the automatic pencil/pen tool to help you sign
    your name in just the right place in your checkbook.

    I believe the gist of the discussion was about devices that control the angle of the drill bit, not the precise positioning of the hole.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Bob Davis on Tue May 3 16:29:05 2022
    On 5/2/2022 9:47 AM, Bob Davis wrote:
    'On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 2:19:23 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 4/28/2022 11:27 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:

    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a
    1/2HP motor.
    This is a LATE April Fools day tool, right? I have never never never
    ever had an issue with using the point of the bit for alignment. But
    waIt !!!! Look for the automatic pencil/pen tool to help you sign
    your name in just the right place in your checkbook.

    I believe the gist of the discussion was about devices that control the angle of the drill bit, not the precise positioning of the hole.



    Yes! However for 1/3 the cost, The Rockler version.

    https://www.rockler.com/rockler-portable-drill-guide

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  • From Jack@21:1/5 to Leon on Sat May 7 10:36:25 2022
    On 5/3/2022 5:29 PM, Leon wrote:
    On 5/2/2022 9:47 AM, Bob Davis wrote:
    'On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 2:19:23 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 4/28/2022 11:27 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:

    <https://www.woodpeck.com/autoangle-drill-guide.html>

    Nice tool but for that price it ought to stand on the floor and have a >>>> 1/2HP motor.
    This is a LATE April Fools day tool, right? I have never never never
    ever had an issue with using the point of the bit for alignment. But
    waIt !!!! Look for the automatic pencil/pen tool to help you sign
    your name in just the right place in your checkbook.

    I believe the gist of the discussion was about devices that control
    the angle of the drill bit, not the precise positioning of the hole.



    Yes!  However for 1/3 the cost, The Rockler version.

    https://www.rockler.com/rockler-portable-drill-guide
    What happened, your oil well[s] dry up?

    For 1/16th the cost, the Home Depot version.
    https://tinyurl.com/bde4u4s9

    I don't own any of them, but threatened myself more than once to get one
    to drill precisely straight holes w/o dragging my 200lb drill press to
    the work.

    The Rockler price is silly, the Woodpecker price is insane.

    I'm not very good at drilling precisely straight holes freehand but
    would never pay the big bucks, never did own my own oil well.

    --
    Jack
    Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.

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