• Another Job Progress

    From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 25 17:02:44 2021
    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have made
    some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets. They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper
    section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/



    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/

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  • From hubops@ccanoemail.ca@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 25 18:35:29 2021
    On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 17:02:44 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have made
    some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets. They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper
    section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/



    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/


    Lookin' good Leon.
    What is the finish going to be ?
    Are the upper & lower are separable ? for moving ?
    In the past, I've moved a few "wall units" that are not
    as big as your project and stairways are a challenge ..
    ... lots of cussin' & bruised walls & ceilings.
    John T.

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  • From Ed Pawlowski@21:1/5 to Leon on Sat Sep 25 23:06:10 2021
    On 9/25/2021 6:02 PM, Leon wrote:
    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have made
    some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets.  They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper
    section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/



    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/

    Nice.. What color are you going to paint it?

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to hubops@ccanoemail.ca on Sun Sep 26 13:52:43 2021
    On 9/25/2021 5:35 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 17:02:44 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have made
    some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets. They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper
    section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/



    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/


    Lookin' good Leon.

    Thank you!

    What is the finish going to be ?

    The cabinets finish, described to me by Nailshooter, "Mushroom", paint.
    He is going to spray paint the finish.

    The top ledge of the bottom cabinet and the top ledge of the top cabinet
    will be maple with a clear finish.


    Are the upper & lower are separable ?

    For transport and to be painted, and carried into the house it will be 7
    main pieces. 4 cabinets, a base, and the 2 ledge pieces.

    He plans to attach the pairs of top and bottom cabinets together
    permanently. The top cabinets and all of the maple ledges will be
    removable.

    He said he will move it into position and let the hairy legged younger
    guys do the future moving as the bottom cabinets become 1 as well as the
    top cabinets become 1.



    for moving ?
    In the past, I've moved a few "wall units" that are not
    as big as your project and stairways are a challenge ..

    Absolutely. This will actually be used as a pantry and will likely
    always be used on the first floor near the kitchen.



    ... lots of cussin' & bruised walls & ceilings.
    John T.



    My wife's sewing studio is up stairs and my son and his friend and I
    moved an almost 84"x40"x24" cabinet up there 10 years ago...
    Impossible with out using the 4 arm fork lift straps. One of us on
    the top side and two if us on bottom. Once actually on the stairs it
    was relatively easy. But we had clearance issues to actually get it in
    line to go up the stairs.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Ed Pawlowski on Sun Sep 26 13:53:53 2021
    On 9/25/2021 10:06 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    On 9/25/2021 6:02 PM, Leon wrote:
    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have
    made some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets.  They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper
    section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/



    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/

    Nice..  What color are you going to paint it?

    Thank you

    The customer, Nailshooter, will paint it "mushroom" color. Your guess
    is as good as mine. ;~)

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 26 20:26:38 2021
    On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 13:53:53 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 9/25/2021 10:06 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    On 9/25/2021 6:02 PM, Leon wrote:
    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have
    made some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets. They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper
    section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/



    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/

    Nice.. What color are you going to paint it?

    Thank you

    The customer, Nailshooter, will paint it "mushroom" color. Your guess
    is as good as mine. ;~)

    Psychedelic 'shrooms?

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 26 20:24:43 2021
    On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 13:52:43 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 9/25/2021 5:35 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 17:02:44 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have made
    some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets. They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper
    section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/



    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/


    Lookin' good Leon.

    Yes, what we've come to expect from Leon.

    Thank you!

    What is the finish going to be ?

    The cabinets finish, described to me by Nailshooter, "Mushroom", paint.
    He is going to spray paint the finish.

    The top ledge of the bottom cabinet and the top ledge of the top cabinet
    will be maple with a clear finish.


    Are the upper & lower are separable ?

    For transport and to be painted, and carried into the house it will be 7
    main pieces. 4 cabinets, a base, and the 2 ledge pieces.

    He plans to attach the pairs of top and bottom cabinets together
    permanently. The top cabinets and all of the maple ledges will be
    removable.

    I hope he's getting a good price. He's doing half the work. ;-)

    He said he will move it into position and let the hairy legged younger
    guys do the future moving as the bottom cabinets become 1 as well as the
    top cabinets become 1.

    I'm going to have to find some of them. My jointer is supposed to be
    here in a couple of weeks and I'd be hard-pressed to move five pounds
    with my right arm, much less 500.

    for moving ?
    In the past, I've moved a few "wall units" that are not
    as big as your project and stairways are a challenge ..

    Absolutely. This will actually be used as a pantry and will likely
    always be used on the first floor near the kitchen.

    That sure makes things simpler.


    ... lots of cussin' & bruised walls & ceilings.
    John T.



    My wife's sewing studio is up stairs and my son and his friend and I
    moved an almost 84"x40"x24" cabinet up there 10 years ago...
    Impossible with out using the 4 arm fork lift straps. One of us on
    the top side and two if us on bottom. Once actually on the stairs it
    was relatively easy. But we had clearance issues to actually get it in
    line to go up the stairs.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Mon Sep 27 09:11:30 2021
    On 9/26/2021 7:24 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 13:52:43 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 9/25/2021 5:35 PM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 17:02:44 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have made >>>> some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets. They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper
    section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/



    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/


    Lookin' good Leon.

    Yes, what we've come to expect from Leon.

    No Pressure! ;~)


    Thank you!

    What is the finish going to be ?

    The cabinets finish, described to me by Nailshooter, "Mushroom", paint.
    He is going to spray paint the finish.

    The top ledge of the bottom cabinet and the top ledge of the top cabinet
    will be maple with a clear finish.


    Are the upper & lower are separable ?

    For transport and to be painted, and carried into the house it will be 7
    main pieces. 4 cabinets, a base, and the 2 ledge pieces.

    He plans to attach the pairs of top and bottom cabinets together
    permanently. The top cabinets and all of the maple ledges will be
    removable.

    I hope he's getting a good price. He's doing half the work. ;-)

    Absolutely, about half my normal price. And it shure speeds my part. I normally begin refinishing panels before glue up. And with 2~3 coats of finish, that could add a couple of days for each unit.





    He said he will move it into position and let the hairy legged younger
    guys do the future moving as the bottom cabinets become 1 as well as the
    top cabinets become 1.

    I'm going to have to find some of them. My jointer is supposed to be
    here in a couple of weeks and I'd be hard-pressed to move five pounds
    with my right arm, much less 500.

    for moving ?
    In the past, I've moved a few "wall units" that are not
    as big as your project and stairways are a challenge ..

    Absolutely. This will actually be used as a pantry and will likely
    always be used on the first floor near the kitchen.

    That sure makes things simpler.

    It does. And the location that it is going is wide open.




    ... lots of cussin' & bruised walls & ceilings.
    John T.



    My wife's sewing studio is up stairs and my son and his friend and I
    moved an almost 84"x40"x24" cabinet up there 10 years ago...
    Impossible with out using the 4 arm fork lift straps. One of us on
    the top side and two if us on bottom. Once actually on the stairs it
    was relatively easy. But we had clearance issues to actually get it in
    line to go up the stairs.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Leon on Mon Sep 27 13:53:46 2021
    On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 9/26/2021 7:24 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 13:52:43 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 9/25/2021 5:35 PM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 17:02:44 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have made >>>> some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets. They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper
    section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/



    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/


    Lookin' good Leon.

    Yes, what we've come to expect from Leon.
    No Pressure! ;~)

    Thank you!

    What is the finish going to be ?

    The cabinets finish, described to me by Nailshooter, "Mushroom", paint.
    He is going to spray paint the finish.

    The top ledge of the bottom cabinet and the top ledge of the top cabinet >> will be maple with a clear finish.


    Are the upper & lower are separable ?

    For transport and to be painted, and carried into the house it will be 7 >> main pieces. 4 cabinets, a base, and the 2 ledge pieces.

    He plans to attach the pairs of top and bottom cabinets together
    permanently. The top cabinets and all of the maple ledges will be
    removable.

    I hope he's getting a good price. He's doing half the work. ;-)
    Absolutely, about half my normal price. And it shure speeds my part. I normally begin refinishing panels before glue up. And with 2~3 coats of finish, that could add a couple of days for each unit.

    So what I'm hearing is that you made it harder for Nailshooter than
    you normally do for yourself. ;-)

    (Should have invited him over to finish it before glue-up and, of course,
    for a beverage or three)

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 27 18:54:00 2021
    On 9/25/2021 5:02 PM, Leon wrote:



    Ok, More!

    I figured out a way to complete a groove into a dado many years ago.
    This is particularly helpful when building cabinet face frames what have
    groves and dado's to receive the sides, tops, and bottom, panels.

    Normally this is pretty easy to do on the back of a FRONT face frame,
    you don't have to be very careful as that will likely never show.
    Because I also use back face frames that detail has to look perfect, or
    close to it.

    I actually contacted Routerman, about 11 years ago to see if he has a
    jig or suggestion to accomplish hits. He did not. Remember Routerman?

    Anyway I will share the jig that I came up with. I have literally cut hundreds of dados in face frames with this jig.

    The problem. The joint is reinforced with a Domino but to make the
    pieces quickly I batch cut the groves and then assemble. But the
    stopped grove needs to extend into the other grove.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51524024946/in/dateposted/

    The jig uses a piece of material the same width of the grove with 1/2"
    Baltic birch plywood rails attached to both sides. These rails guide
    the guide the top bearing 1/2" diameter router bit to form the dado to intersect the grove.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51524733764/in/dateposted/

    The result.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51524733724/in/dateposted/

    And now the upper 2 cabinets are assembled.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51524618177/in/dateposted/

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 27 18:56:58 2021
    On 9/27/2021 3:53 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
    On 9/26/2021 7:24 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 13:52:43 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 9/25/2021 5:35 PM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 17:02:44 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    So I presented a drawing of the job I am working on and now I have made >>>>>> some progress.


    Both bottom cabinets. They both will have 2 large drawers.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51516447796/in/dateposted/


    The face frames, front and back for both top cabinets.

    The bottom section will hold a smaller drawer and the larger upper >>>>>> section will have adjustable shelving for each upper cabinet.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51517367585/in/photostream/ >>>>>>


    And again, where this is headed.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/51487087793/in/photostream/


    Lookin' good Leon.

    Yes, what we've come to expect from Leon.
    No Pressure! ;~)

    Thank you!

    What is the finish going to be ?

    The cabinets finish, described to me by Nailshooter, "Mushroom", paint. >>>> He is going to spray paint the finish.

    The top ledge of the bottom cabinet and the top ledge of the top cabinet >>>> will be maple with a clear finish.


    Are the upper & lower are separable ?

    For transport and to be painted, and carried into the house it will be 7 >>>> main pieces. 4 cabinets, a base, and the 2 ledge pieces.

    He plans to attach the pairs of top and bottom cabinets together
    permanently. The top cabinets and all of the maple ledges will be
    removable.

    I hope he's getting a good price. He's doing half the work. ;-)
    Absolutely, about half my normal price. And it shure speeds my part. I
    normally begin refinishing panels before glue up. And with 2~3 coats of
    finish, that could add a couple of days for each unit.

    So what I'm hearing is that you made it harder for Nailshooter than
    you normally do for yourself. ;-)

    (Should have invited him over to finish it before glue-up and, of course,
    for a beverage or three)



    Yeah but! He lives 4 hours away. And he is spraying anyway., LOL

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