One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:23:17 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
If you mean the one with the "120" on it, my guess is that it's a
spokeshave.
<https://framingnailersguide.com/spokeshave-vs-drawknife/>
On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:38:55 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:23:17 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
If you mean the one with the "120" on it, my guess is that it's a >>spokeshave.
<https://framingnailersguide.com/spokeshave-vs-drawknife/>
Lots of photos to browse online - I couldn't find one quite it ...
https://www.letoolman.com/antique---vintage-tools.html
http://www.greatplanestrading.com/OCT12/index.html#OCT12_003SY.jpg
cabinet scrapers have similar handles .. dunno.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:38:55 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:23:17 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
If you mean the one with the "120" on it, my guess is that it's a >>spokeshave.
<https://framingnailersguide.com/spokeshave-vs-drawknife/>
Lots of photos to browse online - I couldn't find one quite it ...Looks to me like PART of a tool. Looks tohave a hole for a bolt up the
https://www.letoolman.com/antique---vintage-tools.html
http://www.greatplanestrading.com/OCT12/index.html#OCT12_003SY.jpg
cabinet scrapers have similar handles .. dunno.
John T.
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for holding/grabbing
with one's hands and its rather large.
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for holding/grabbing
with one's hands and it’s rather large.
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for holding/grabbing
with one's hands and its rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's,
"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for
a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that
it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with
a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the
correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so
that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the >technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read,
and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading
it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in
planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's
book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the >"Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish
to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one
of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such
details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate
when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as >successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's,
"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for
a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that
it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with
a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
hub...@ccanoemail.ca writes:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <none...@att.net> wrote:
Hack calls it a "buzz" (aka scraper shave).On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384n...@4ax.com...There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's, >>"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that >>it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with >>a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
However, it still looks quite different from the '120' shown on
the auction site.
I think it's just as likely to be a footrest from a barbers chair;
there is really no place to mount a blade or scraper cutter.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Handplane_Book/lSVMWpzqfNgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=the+handplane+book&printsec=frontcover
pg187 shows a couple of coopering planes. Unfortunately google doesn't show the page referenced above.
hubops@ccanoemail.ca writes:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's,
"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for
a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that >>> it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with >>> a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
Hack calls it a "buzz" (aka scraper shave).
However, it still looks quite different from the '120' shown on
the auction site.
I think it's just as likely to be a footrest from a barbers chair;
there is really no place to mount a blade or scraper cutter.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Handplane_Book/lSVMWpzqfNgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=the+handplane+book&printsec=frontcover
pg187 shows a couple of coopering planes. Unfortunately google doesn't show the page referenced above.
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for holding/grabbing >>> with one's hands and it’s rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's,
"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for
a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that
it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with
a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the
correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so
that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the
technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read,
and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading
it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in
planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's
book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the
"Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish
to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one
of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such
details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate
when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as
successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
Thanks for your input, Bill.
I tried various google image search key-words including
"barrel" and "cooper" but alas google
isn't what it used-to-be ...
If you have a picture or web link of your wooden version
I'd be happy to see it.
Or even a unique word for a further web search.
More image searches turned up this wooden tool :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154923909025?hash=item24122f3fa1:g:lXUAAOSwLV5iRCZ9
John T.
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for holding/grabbing >>> with one's hands and its rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's,
"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for
a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that
it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with
a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the >>correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so
that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the >>technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read,
and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading
it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in >>planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's
book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the >>"Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish
to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one
of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such
details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate >>when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as >>successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
Thanks for your input, Bill.
I tried various google image search key-words including
"barrel" and "cooper" but alas google
isn't what it used-to-be ...
If you have a picture or web link of your wooden version
I'd be happy to see it.
Or even a unique word for a further web search.
More image searches turned up this wooden tool :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154923909025?hash=item24122f3fa1:g:lXUAAOSwLV5iRCZ9
On 4/1/2022 9:29 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for holding/grabbing >>>> with one's hands and its rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's,
"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for
a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that >>> it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with >>> a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the
correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so
that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the
technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read,
and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading
it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in
planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's
book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the >>> "Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish
to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one
of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such
details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate
when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as
successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
Thanks for your input, Bill.
I tried various google image search key-words including
"barrel" and "cooper" but alas google
isn't what it used-to-be ...
If you have a picture or web link of your wooden version
I'd be happy to see it.
Or even a unique word for a further web search.
More image searches turned up this wooden tool :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154923909025?hash=item24122f3fa1:g:lXUAAOSwLV5iRCZ9 >> John T.
John, I posted a photo (jpg) of the picture I mentioned to the
newsgroup: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
I hope that helps! I don't claim that it "settles" the matter! ; )
You be the judge.
On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 09:29:54 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:I still vote for spokeshave but they may be close cousins.
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for holding/grabbing >>>> with one's hands and its rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's, >>>"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for
a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that >>>it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with >>>a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the >>>correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so >>>that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the >>>technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read,
and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading >>>it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in >>>planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's >>>book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the >>>"Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish
to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one >>>of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such >>>details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate >>>when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as >>>successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
Thanks for your input, Bill.
I tried various google image search key-words including
"barrel" and "cooper" but alas google
isn't what it used-to-be ...
If you have a picture or web link of your wooden version
I'd be happy to see it.
Or even a unique word for a further web search.
More image searches turned up this wooden tool :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154923909025?hash=item24122f3fa1:g:lXUAAOSwLV5iRCZ9 >>
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/304413743609>
"Bill" wrote in message news:D7P1K.304748$Lbb6.100637@fx45.iad...
On 4/1/2022 9:29 AM, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for
holding/grabbing
with one's hands and it’s rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's,
"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for >>> a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that >>> it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with >>> a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the
correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so
that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the >>> technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read,
and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading
it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in
planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's
book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the >>> "Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish
to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one
of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such
details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate
when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as
successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
Thanks for your input, Bill.
I tried various google image search key-words including
"barrel" and "cooper" but alas google
isn't what it used-to-be ...
If you have a picture or web link of your wooden version
I'd be happy to see it.
Or even a unique word for a further web search.
John, I posted a photo (jpg) of the picture I mentioned to the
newsgroup: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
I hope that helps! I don't claim that it "settles" the matter! ; )
You be the judge.
More image searches turned up this wooden tool :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154923909025?hash=item24122f3fa1:g:lXUAAOSwLV5iRCZ9 >>
John T.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the notion that the item
is intended for use with the hands. The majority of the antique tools
I've used (original and reproduction -- I worked at an 18th century
living history museum and have used many of more recent vintage) were generally more ergonomically shaped than this item. This thing doesn't
appear to be comfortably graspable. The hatch pattern suggests to me
that it was designed to prevent feet from slipping. Assuming the plane
iron on the right is 2" wide that makes this thing about a foot long. It appears to have indexing humps on the bottom (note the two bumps on the
close side in front of the hole) and a hole through which I can imaging
a bolt/rod/hook of some sort with a washer and wing nut holding it in
place.
Regarding coopers' tools. The vast majority of those I've seen were
wooden. A notable exception is those of a local cooperage that has made custom machines to perform tasks formerly done with hand tools. From hearing the cooper at a couple presentations, and having discussions
with him, I got the impression he did a lot of research into historical cooperage tools and had acquired a significant assortment of them. I've
sent a copy of the photo off to the owner and asked his opinion.
I've had people give me boxes of tools that belonged to their
grandfathers' that went back to the early 1900s. It was not uncommon to
find completely unrelated items in those boxes. Automotive parts, farm implement parts, etc. That leaves me wondering if this is a tool at all!
I'll keep poking around with Google and see if anything jumps out.
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384nlv1itsglbi8su68i6@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for holding/grabbing >>> with one's hands and it’s rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's,
"The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for
a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that
it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with
a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the
correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so
that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the
technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read,
and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading
it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in
planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's
book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the
"Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish
to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one
of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such
details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate
when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as
successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
Thanks for your input, Bill.
I tried various google image search key-words including
"barrel" and "cooper" but alas google
isn't what it used-to-be ...
If you have a picture or web link of your wooden version
I'd be happy to see it.
Or even a unique word for a further web search.
More image searches turned up this wooden tool :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154923909025?hash=item24122f3fa1:g:lXUAAOSwLV5iRCZ9
John T.
On 4/4/2022 1:17 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message news:D7P1K.304748$Lbb6....@fx45.iad...
On 4/1/2022 9:29 AM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <none...@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384n...@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for
holding/grabbing
with one's hands and it’s rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's, >>> "The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for >>> a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that >>> it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with >>> a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the >>> correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so >>> that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the >>> technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read, >>> and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading >>> it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in >>> planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's
book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the >>> "Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish >>> to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one >>> of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such
details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate >>> when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as
successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
Thanks for your input, Bill.
I tried various google image search key-words including
"barrel" and "cooper" but alas google
isn't what it used-to-be ...
If you have a picture or web link of your wooden version
I'd be happy to see it.
Or even a unique word for a further web search.
John, I posted a photo (jpg) of the picture I mentioned to the
newsgroup: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
I hope that helps! I don't claim that it "settles" the matter! ; )
You be the judge.
More image searches turned up this wooden tool :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154923909025?hash=item24122f3fa1:g:lXUAAOSwLV5iRCZ9
John T.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the notion that the item
is intended for use with the hands. The majority of the antique tools
I've used (original and reproduction -- I worked at an 18th century
living history museum and have used many of more recent vintage) were generally more ergonomically shaped than this item. This thing doesn't appear to be comfortably graspable. The hatch pattern suggests to me
that it was designed to prevent feet from slipping. Assuming the plane iron on the right is 2" wide that makes this thing about a foot long. It appears to have indexing humps on the bottom (note the two bumps on the close side in front of the hole) and a hole through which I can imaging
a bolt/rod/hook of some sort with a washer and wing nut holding it in place.
Regarding coopers' tools. The vast majority of those I've seen were wooden. A notable exception is those of a local cooperage that has made custom machines to perform tasks formerly done with hand tools. From hearing the cooper at a couple presentations, and having discussions
with him, I got the impression he did a lot of research into historical cooperage tools and had acquired a significant assortment of them. I've sent a copy of the photo off to the owner and asked his opinion.
I've had people give me boxes of tools that belonged to their grandfathers' that went back to the early 1900s. It was not uncommon to find completely unrelated items in those boxes. Automotive parts, farm implement parts, etc. That leaves me wondering if this is a tool at all!
I'll keep poking around with Google and see if anything jumps out.
Thank you for your further contribution..interesting stuff.
I had a hard time grasping why there would be "120" on it, were it not
for it being a tool... But it *does" look like a footrest too (I've
searched images including tractors and barber chairs!--maybe a dentists chair? :D ).
On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 2:06:45 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
On 4/4/2022 1:17 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message news:D7P1K.304748$Lbb6....@fx45.iad...Thank you for your further contribution..interesting stuff.
On 4/1/2022 9:29 AM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <none...@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384n...@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for
holding/grabbing
with one's hands and it’s rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's, >>>>> "The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for >>>>> a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that >>>>> it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with >>>>> a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the >>>>> correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so >>>>> that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the >>>>> technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read, >>>>> and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading >>>>> it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in >>>>> planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's >>>>> book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the >>>>> "Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish >>>>> to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one >>>>> of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such
details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate >>>>> when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as >>>>> successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
Thanks for your input, Bill.
I tried various google image search key-words including
"barrel" and "cooper" but alas google
isn't what it used-to-be ...
If you have a picture or web link of your wooden version
I'd be happy to see it.
Or even a unique word for a further web search.
John, I posted a photo (jpg) of the picture I mentioned to the
newsgroup: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
I hope that helps! I don't claim that it "settles" the matter! ; )
You be the judge.
More image searches turned up this wooden tool :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154923909025?hash=item24122f3fa1:g:lXUAAOSwLV5iRCZ9
John T.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the notion that the item
is intended for use with the hands. The majority of the antique tools
I've used (original and reproduction -- I worked at an 18th century
living history museum and have used many of more recent vintage) were
generally more ergonomically shaped than this item. This thing doesn't
appear to be comfortably graspable. The hatch pattern suggests to me
that it was designed to prevent feet from slipping. Assuming the plane
iron on the right is 2" wide that makes this thing about a foot long. It >>> appears to have indexing humps on the bottom (note the two bumps on the
close side in front of the hole) and a hole through which I can imaging
a bolt/rod/hook of some sort with a washer and wing nut holding it in
place.
Regarding coopers' tools. The vast majority of those I've seen were
wooden. A notable exception is those of a local cooperage that has made
custom machines to perform tasks formerly done with hand tools. From
hearing the cooper at a couple presentations, and having discussions
with him, I got the impression he did a lot of research into historical
cooperage tools and had acquired a significant assortment of them. I've
sent a copy of the photo off to the owner and asked his opinion.
I've had people give me boxes of tools that belonged to their
grandfathers' that went back to the early 1900s. It was not uncommon to
find completely unrelated items in those boxes. Automotive parts, farm
implement parts, etc. That leaves me wondering if this is a tool at all! >>>
I'll keep poking around with Google and see if anything jumps out.
I had a hard time grasping why there would be "120" on it, were it not
for it being a tool... But it *does" look like a footrest too (I've
searched images including tractors and barber chairs!--maybe a dentists
chair? :D ).
As I mentioned earlier: Salon chairs have T shaped footrests, as opposed to barber's chairs that almost exclusively have full, flat surfaced footrests.
A salon chair, albeit a somewhat modern one:
https://i.imgur.com/TnurQjR.png
On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 2:06:45 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
On 4/4/2022 1:17 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message news:D7P1K.304748$Lbb6....@fx45.iad...Thank you for your further contribution..interesting stuff.
On 4/1/2022 9:29 AM, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 01:05:16 -0400, Bill <none...@att.net> wrote:
On 3/31/2022 1:24 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
wrote in message news:7bm84hpoc4ir4384n...@4ax.com...
One unusual looking plane - looks like a plane .. :-)
that I've never seen before ...
https://greatwestteam.hibid.com/lot/116724704/hand-planes-/?ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
That looks like a foot rest... it's not shaped well for
holding/grabbing
with one's hands and it’s rather large.
There is a picture of a wooden version on page 210 of Garrett Hack's, >>>>> "The Handplane Book" (1999). It appears that the tool was designed for >>>>> a cooper (barrel making). My "wild guess" is that the "120" implies that >>>>> it is for shaping the outside of the barrel staves and that it cuts with >>>>> a curve having a 12" radius. I could be mistaken.
On a related note, I have seen a remarkable tool used for gauging the >>>>> correct angle on the sides of the staves (as a function of radius) so >>>>> that all of the staves fit together perfectly. Don't underestimate the >>>>> technology of barrel or bucket making! : )
The book above was one of the first books on woodworking that I read, >>>>> and it cost me quite a few dollars (hundreds) after I finished reading >>>>> it. For the uninitiated, it wouldn't take much to push an interest in >>>>> planes into the thousands! If you like "molding planes", Bickford's >>>>> book, "Moldings in Practice" was interesting, but being published by the >>>>> "Lost Art Press", it is sort of pricey for what it is. But if you wish >>>>> to dwell on the nuances of the molding on fine furniture, it may be one >>>>> of the few options. However, As Leon has pointed out before, such
details can get in the way of getting any work done! I sort of salivate >>>>> when I examine antique fine furniture, but I am not anywhere near as >>>>> successful in getting as much woodworking done as Leon does!
Thanks for your input, Bill.
I tried various google image search key-words including
"barrel" and "cooper" but alas google
isn't what it used-to-be ...
If you have a picture or web link of your wooden version
I'd be happy to see it.
Or even a unique word for a further web search.
John, I posted a photo (jpg) of the picture I mentioned to the
newsgroup: alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
I hope that helps! I don't claim that it "settles" the matter! ; )
You be the judge.
More image searches turned up this wooden tool :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154923909025?hash=item24122f3fa1:g:lXUAAOSwLV5iRCZ9
John T.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the notion that the item
is intended for use with the hands. The majority of the antique tools
I've used (original and reproduction -- I worked at an 18th century
living history museum and have used many of more recent vintage) were
generally more ergonomically shaped than this item. This thing doesn't
appear to be comfortably graspable. The hatch pattern suggests to me
that it was designed to prevent feet from slipping. Assuming the plane
iron on the right is 2" wide that makes this thing about a foot long. It >>> appears to have indexing humps on the bottom (note the two bumps on the
close side in front of the hole) and a hole through which I can imaging
a bolt/rod/hook of some sort with a washer and wing nut holding it in
place.
Regarding coopers' tools. The vast majority of those I've seen were
wooden. A notable exception is those of a local cooperage that has made
custom machines to perform tasks formerly done with hand tools. From
hearing the cooper at a couple presentations, and having discussions
with him, I got the impression he did a lot of research into historical
cooperage tools and had acquired a significant assortment of them. I've
sent a copy of the photo off to the owner and asked his opinion.
I've had people give me boxes of tools that belonged to their
grandfathers' that went back to the early 1900s. It was not uncommon to
find completely unrelated items in those boxes. Automotive parts, farm
implement parts, etc. That leaves me wondering if this is a tool at all! >>>
I'll keep poking around with Google and see if anything jumps out.
I had a hard time grasping why there would be "120" on it, were it not
for it being a tool... But it *does" look like a footrest too (I've
searched images including tractors and barber chairs!--maybe a dentists
chair? :D ).
As I mentioned earlier: Salon chairs have T shaped footrests, as opposed to barber's chairs that almost exclusively have full, flat surfaced footrests.
A salon chair, albeit a somewhat modern one:
https://i.imgur.com/TnurQjR.png
Well that is a thought but the handle to my dad's old lawn mower had looked >like that too.
I have to suspect that a piece of furniture and or a lawn mower handle
would have an identifying 120 molded in.
Back to the barber chair, I recall a foot rest with a flat metal side, for >your feet, and it would flip to offer a padded side to rest your legs when >you were tipped back for a shave.
"Leon" wrote in message news:uaCdnZhsBshW1NH_nZ2dnUU7-eHNnZ2d@giganews.com...
Well that is a thought but the handle to my dad's old lawn mower had
looked like that too.
I have to suspect that a piece of furniture and or a lawn mower handle
would have an identifying 120 molded in.
Back to the barber chair, I recall a foot rest with a flat metal side,
for your feet, and it would flip to offer a padded side to rest your
legs when you were tipped back for a shave.
It seems kind of short to be a lawn mower handle.
On 4/6/2022 9:42 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message
news:uaCdnZhsBshW1NH_nZ2dnUU7-eHNnZ2d@giganews.com...
Well that is a thought but the handle to my dad's old lawn mower had
looked like that too.
I have to suspect that a piece of furniture and or a lawn mower handle
would have an identifying 120 molded in.
It seems kind of short to be a lawn mower handle.
Think the top of the tubes that connect to the mower deck.
On 4/6/2022 9:42 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message
news:uaCdnZhsBshW1NH_nZ2dnUU7-eHNnZ2d@giganews.com...
Well that is a thought but the handle to my dad's old lawn mower had
looked like that too.
I have to suspect that a piece of furniture and or a lawn mower handle
would have an identifying 120 molded in.
It seems kind of short to be a lawn mower handle.
Think the top of the tubes that connect to the mower deck.
"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message >news:I9idnR5lXL4IVND_nZ2dnUU7-ePNnZ2d@earthlink.com...
"Leon" wrote in message >news:-JidnVZsVaHHKdD_nZ2dnUU7-dWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
On 4/6/2022 9:42 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message
news:uaCdnZhsBshW1NH_nZ2dnUU7-eHNnZ2d@giganews.com...
Well that is a thought but the handle to my dad's old lawn mower had
looked like that too.
I have to suspect that a piece of furniture and or a lawn mower handle
would have an identifying 120 molded in.
It seems kind of short to be a lawn mower handle.
Think the top of the tubes that connect to the mower deck.
Yes, the part you'd hold on to. It is only about a foot wide which would >make mowing unwieldy as your hands would be close together... Outside of the >very small push reel mowers I've never seen one that narrow and most are one >piece with the riser tubing. I'd be interested in seeing more antiques as >obviously I've never seen all the offerings of the past!
I didn't finish my thought... Or, they had wooden handles!
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:36:08 AM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :=20
=20
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station= >/?cpage=3D8&ipp=3D100&q=3D&ref=3Dcatalog=20
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John T.
A lot of time and effort was put into building that cabinet. It alone is= probably worth the $150 CA. Looks like a good assortment of tools and a=
ccessories and that's a plus. IMO, bench top saws are not so appealing, s= >o I would think the saw is the weakest amenity.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:36:08 AM UTC-4, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
Rambling comments...
The cabinet is rough - both roughly built and well used - but looks pretty sturdy.
Other than the cheap drawer slides on the big drawer, the others appear to be wood
on wood. Of course that's easy enough to upgrade. I think it would take a lot of time
and work to get that cabinet into "finish carpentry" shape. That router table definitely
needs a new top, insert and probably router. Certainly doable.
Tools are questionable. It might be hard to find parts for the table saw. I did a quick
search and while the King Canada website has a page full of "Buy Online" vendor choices,
the half-dozen I tried don't show anything for a KC-10RC table saw. Since it's labeled
as Taiwanese, it may be a "generic saw" with parts available if you can find a different
but matching model, if you get my drift. But it is at least at 1/4 century old, so tracking
down parts/part numbers might be troublesome.
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced. >> What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more >> useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 7:36:08 AM UTC-4, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote: >> just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
Rambling comments...
The cabinet is rough - both roughly built and well used - but looks pretty sturdy.
Other than the cheap drawer slides on the big drawer, the others appear to be wood
on wood. Of course that's easy enough to upgrade. I think it would take a lot of time
and work to get that cabinet into "finish carpentry" shape. That router table definitely
needs a new top, insert and probably router. Certainly doable.
Tools are questionable. It might be hard to find parts for the table saw. I did a quickI think you are being quite critical.
search and while the King Canada website has a page full of "Buy Online" vendor choices,
the half-dozen I tried don't show anything for a KC-10RC table saw. Since it's labeled
as Taiwanese, it may be a "generic saw" with parts available if you can find a different
but matching model, if you get my drift. But it is at least at 1/4 century old, so tracking
down parts/part numbers might be troublesome.
For a portable workstation, it's
more than sufficient for finish carpentry and even fine furniture.
I know a fellow that does extremely fine woodworking with an old
delta 34-670 (that I sold him when I bought my JTAS-10 back in 1996).
I had replaced one of the stamped wings with a laminate router table
with insert befores selling.
He replaced the fence a couple years ago with a
biesmeyer clone. Recently he used it when doing some volunteer work
cleaning up the interior of an old Victorian to be used as a women's shelter, doing some fine finish carpentry.
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced. What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalogI think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:36:08 AM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:pictures. Except this one looks a lot older. The cast iron wings look nicer, sort of, than my sheet metal wings on my saw. I say sort of because it is nice that mine are solid, while these cast iron have lots of holes in them. I would not be surprised if
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.My OPINION. OPINION. OPINION.
It looks old and rough and well used over the years. I have zero experience with used prices for tools so cannot make any comments about what it would sell for. I have a 1992 or 93 Delta Contractor saw. Similar or the same as the saw shown in the
Personally, I would not BUY, PAY, for this table saw, router table, sander. If I owned it already or was given it, I would fix it up and put it in the outbuildings for rough use. I see it kind of as a project. Analogy: 1970s-80s Monte Carlo, CutlassSupreme, Riviera. Cool cars, I thought. I'd love to have one to drive around. Be cool. If you found, bought several super cheap, and could do your own mechanic work, it would be fun to make a new, good one. Relive your youth and be cool again. But it
Rationally, I can't imagine why anyone would want this saw. Its rough now. It will take a lot of work to make useful. And ten times that to make it functional and pretty and something you are proud of owning. I think you could use your time and moneyin better ways.
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?
I have a 30+ year old Ryobi reciprocating saw that just won't die, preventing me from
getting new one. ;-)
I've tried a few more recent Ryobi tools, including a cordless set, that I thought sucked.
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - -
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced. >>> What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more >>> useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for
it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?
I have a 30+ year old Ryobi reciprocating saw that just won't die, preventing me from
getting new one. ;-)
I've tried a few more recent Ryobi tools, including a cordless set, that I thought sucked.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:Ryobi USED to build almost bullet-proof stuff. Just like Black and
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?
I have a 30+ year old Ryobi reciprocating saw that just won't die, preventing me from
getting new one. ;-)
I've tried a few more recent Ryobi tools, including a cordless set, that I thought sucked.
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:32:02 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?
I have a 30+ year old Ryobi reciprocating saw that just won't die, preventing me from
getting new one. ;-)
I've tried a few more recent Ryobi tools, including a cordless set, that I thought sucked.
Without first-hand knowledge - I''ll say yes - based on -
- a trusted old co-worker circa mid-late 1980's -
who would rave about his little bench-top Ryobi planer -
- back when they were a new thang ..
.. this was a guy who built a round house - literally.
.. just for the challenge.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:24:47 PM UTC-4, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote: >> On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:36:08 AM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote: >> > just for curiosity / comments :pictures. Except this one looks a lot older. The cast iron wings look nicer, sort of, than my sheet metal wings on my saw. I say sort of because it is nice that mine are solid, while these cast iron have lots of holes in them. I would not be surprised if
My OPINION. OPINION. OPINION.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
It looks old and rough and well used over the years. I have zero experience with used prices for tools so cannot make any comments about what it would sell for. I have a 1992 or 93 Delta Contractor saw. Similar or the same as the saw shown in the
pick it up and place it on top of the router table. I use my big 4x24 Makita belt sander in a homemade jig or in my Record vice. So the belt sander contraption would be good to have I guess if you did not already own a belt sander. As for the quality ofthe cabinets, they are functional I guess. No high quality was put into them. Functional shop cabinets. Fine OK. I built cabinets under my side table on my saw. Functional, cheap, painted white. No fine carpentry.
Supreme, Riviera. Cool cars, I thought. I'd love to have one to drive around. Be cool. If you found, bought several super cheap, and could do your own mechanic work, it would be fun to make a new, good one. Relive your youth and be cool again. But it
Personally, I would not BUY, PAY, for this table saw, router table, sander. If I owned it already or was given it, I would fix it up and put it in the outbuildings for rough use. I see it kind of as a project. Analogy: 1970s-80s Monte Carlo, Cutlass
in better ways.
Rationally, I can't imagine why anyone would want this saw. Its rough now. It will take a lot of work to make useful. And ten times that to make it functional and pretty and something you are proud of owning. I think you could use your time and money
re: Table saw/Router table combos.
In a semi-perfect world, combos wouldn't be needed. For folks like me with small shops, the
combo is infinitely better than the other option: bench top/portable router tables.
BTDT. They S-U-C-K.
My solution: - Table saw, router table and "jointer" combo. I have a separate fence for the
router table that has a port for dust collection.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpg
As far as the belt sander on the auction item, zoom in. It's hinged to the main cabinet, which
tells me that it swings up and I'll bet that there are hinged legs that hold it up.
Never mind, here you go - a close up of the hinges.
https://i.imgur.com/Bkewt8S.jpg
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:32:02 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?
Not sure about all of them but the router is a beast. The only other
Ryobi I had from that time was a circular saw. It's been replaced
several times so I guess it wasn't so great. I don't remember my
problem with it though.
just for curiosity / comments :I'd say someone got a killer deal!!!
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:24:47 PM UTC-4, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:pictures. Except this one looks a lot older. The cast iron wings look nicer, sort of, than my sheet metal wings on my saw. I say sort of because it is nice that mine are solid, while these cast iron have lots of holes in them. I would not be surprised if
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:36:08 AM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.My OPINION. OPINION. OPINION.
It looks old and rough and well used over the years. I have zero experience with used prices for tools so cannot make any comments about what it would sell for. I have a 1992 or 93 Delta Contractor saw. Similar or the same as the saw shown in the
Supreme, Riviera. Cool cars, I thought. I'd love to have one to drive around. Be cool. If you found, bought several super cheap, and could do your own mechanic work, it would be fun to make a new, good one. Relive your youth and be cool again. But itPersonally, I would not BUY, PAY, for this table saw, router table, sander. If I owned it already or was given it, I would fix it up and put it in the outbuildings for rough use. I see it kind of as a project. Analogy: 1970s-80s Monte Carlo, Cutlass
in better ways.Rationally, I can't imagine why anyone would want this saw. Its rough now. It will take a lot of work to make useful. And ten times that to make it functional and pretty and something you are proud of owning. I think you could use your time and money
re: Table saw/Router table combos.
In a semi-perfect world, combos wouldn't be needed. For folks like me with small shops, the
combo is infinitely better than the other option: bench top/portable router tables.
BTDT. They S-U-C-K.
My solution: - Table saw, router table and "jointer" combo. I have a separate fence for the
router table that has a port for dust collection.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpg
As far as the belt sander on the auction item, zoom in. It's hinged to the main cabinet, which
tells me that it swings up and I'll bet that there are hinged legs that hold it up.
Never mind, here you go - a close up of the hinges.
https://i.imgur.com/Bkewt8S.jpg
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 5:57:43 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:pictures. Except this one looks a lot older. The cast iron wings look nicer, sort of, than my sheet metal wings on my saw. I say sort of because it is nice that mine are solid, while these cast iron have lots of holes in them. I would not be surprised if
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:24:47 PM UTC-4, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:36:08 AM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.My OPINION. OPINION. OPINION.
It looks old and rough and well used over the years. I have zero experience with used prices for tools so cannot make any comments about what it would sell for. I have a 1992 or 93 Delta Contractor saw. Similar or the same as the saw shown in the
Cutlass Supreme, Riviera. Cool cars, I thought. I'd love to have one to drive around. Be cool. If you found, bought several super cheap, and could do your own mechanic work, it would be fun to make a new, good one. Relive your youth and be cool again.Personally, I would not BUY, PAY, for this table saw, router table, sander. If I owned it already or was given it, I would fix it up and put it in the outbuildings for rough use. I see it kind of as a project. Analogy: 1970s-80s Monte Carlo,
money in better ways.Rationally, I can't imagine why anyone would want this saw. Its rough now. It will take a lot of work to make useful. And ten times that to make it functional and pretty and something you are proud of owning. I think you could use your time and
advantageous sometimes.re: Table saw/Router table combos.
In a semi-perfect world, combos wouldn't be needed. For folks like me with small shops, the
combo is infinitely better than the other option: bench top/portable router tables.
BTDT. They S-U-C-K.
My solution: - Table saw, router table and "jointer" combo. I have a separate fence for the
router table that has a port for dust collection.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpgYour table saw/router table combination unit looks real good. I've been fortunate to never have a space issue for a shop. So I am a fan of separates. But I can see where having the back side of the table saw fence to use with the router would be
having no sander at all. But......As far as the belt sander on the auction item, zoom in. It's hinged to the main cabinet, which
tells me that it swings up and I'll bet that there are hinged legs that hold it up.
Never mind, here you go - a close up of the hinges.
https://i.imgur.com/Bkewt8S.jpgI see that now. But if you used the hinges, and presumably the folding legs underneath, wouldn't it end up about 18 inches off the floor? Kind of low. Too low. Having to get down on your knees to sand something does not sound good. It is better than
I'd say someone got a killer deal!!!
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
I'd say someone got a killer deal!!!
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:36:08 AM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :=20
=20
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station= >/?cpage=3D8&ipp=3D100&q=3D&ref=3Dcatalog=20
=20
John T.
My OPINION. OPINION. OPINION.
It looks old and rough and well used over the years. I have zero experienc= >e with used prices for tools so cannot make any comments about what it woul= >d sell for. I have a 1992 or 93 Delta Contractor saw. Similar or the same=
as the saw shown in the pictures. Except this one looks a lot older.
The pandemic forced many auctioneers to go online -
- in general I think they get better prices for stuff
but there are exceptions - like this one, I'd say.
I'm betting that a few will stick to online rather than
returning to live auction sales.
At a recent live auction, <poorly attended> I saw a
nice Roxton solid maple kitchen set sell for $ 20.
.. table, chairs, buffet/china all in great shape.
John T.
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 12:46:47 AM UTC-4, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:pictures. Except this one looks a lot older. The cast iron wings look nicer, sort of, than my sheet metal wings on my saw. I say sort of because it is nice that mine are solid, while these cast iron have lots of holes in them. I would not be surprised if
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 5:57:43 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:24:47 PM UTC-4, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:36:08 AM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.My OPINION. OPINION. OPINION.
It looks old and rough and well used over the years. I have zero experience with used prices for tools so cannot make any comments about what it would sell for. I have a 1992 or 93 Delta Contractor saw. Similar or the same as the saw shown in the
Cutlass Supreme, Riviera. Cool cars, I thought. I'd love to have one to drive around. Be cool. If you found, bought several super cheap, and could do your own mechanic work, it would be fun to make a new, good one. Relive your youth and be cool again.Personally, I would not BUY, PAY, for this table saw, router table, sander. If I owned it already or was given it, I would fix it up and put it in the outbuildings for rough use. I see it kind of as a project. Analogy: 1970s-80s Monte Carlo,
money in better ways.Rationally, I can't imagine why anyone would want this saw. Its rough now. It will take a lot of work to make useful. And ten times that to make it functional and pretty and something you are proud of owning. I think you could use your time and
advantageous sometimes.re: Table saw/Router table combos.
In a semi-perfect world, combos wouldn't be needed. For folks like me with small shops, the
combo is infinitely better than the other option: bench top/portable router tables.
BTDT. They S-U-C-K.
My solution: - Table saw, router table and "jointer" combo. I have a separate fence for the
router table that has a port for dust collection.
https://i.imgur.com/8dyS4kN.jpgYour table saw/router table combination unit looks real good. I've been fortunate to never have a space issue for a shop. So I am a fan of separates. But I can see where having the back side of the table saw fence to use with the router would be
But, as I said, I have a separate fence for the router table. One that has a dust collection port built in.having no sander at all. But......
It's actually a fence from a bench top miter table that I struggled with for a very short time before
I trashed it. I saved the fence and modified it for use with my add-on router table. I clamp it to rails
of the table saw and stick a dust collection hose up it's butt. :-)
As far as the belt sander on the auction item, zoom in. It's hinged to the main cabinet, which
tells me that it swings up and I'll bet that there are hinged legs that hold it up.
Never mind, here you go - a close up of the hinges.
https://i.imgur.com/Bkewt8S.jpgI see that now. But if you used the hinges, and presumably the folding legs underneath, wouldn't it end up about 18 inches off the floor? Kind of low. Too low. Having to get down on your knees to sand something does not sound good. It is better than
Are you serious or exaggerating? The table saw is listed at 37" high. Look at the picture. Those hinges are more than halfway up the side and the
belt sander is mounted on a bracket that would make it even higher.
I'm guessing that the sanding surface is at a very comfortable height
once horizontal. Besides, it's mounted on hinges to a wooden board.
Mount it higher if you want too. ;-)
FWIW, my benchtop belt/disc sander and my 10" disc sander are stored
under my workbench, about 4" off the floor. Yes, I have (often) gotten
down on my knees for a quick use - round some corners, etc. It sure
beats lifting it up, putting it on the bench then putting it away again
just for a 20 second sanding session.
"russell...@yahoo.com" <ritzann...@gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 6:36:08 AM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote: >> just for curiosity / comments :=20
=20/?cpage=3D8&ipp=3D100&q=3D&ref=3Dcatalog=20
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station=
=20
John T.
My OPINION. OPINION. OPINION.
It looks old and rough and well used over the years. I have zero experienc= >e with used prices for tools so cannot make any comments about what it woul=The nameplate on the saw shows that it was from the 1990s, same as yours.
d sell for. I have a 1992 or 93 Delta Contractor saw. Similar or the same=
as the saw shown in the pictures. Except this one looks a lot older.
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?
I have a 30+ year old Ryobi reciprocating saw that just won't die, preventing me from
getting new one. ;-)
I've tried a few more recent Ryobi tools, including a cordless set, that I thought sucked.
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - -
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced. >>>> What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much moreuseful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for
it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture.
On 6/28/2022 5:32 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?Yes! I had the "original" bench top Ryobi AP10 planer back around
1990. It was bullet proof.
I have a 30+ year old Ryobi reciprocating saw that just won't die, preventing me from
getting new one. ;-)
I've tried a few more recent Ryobi tools, including a cordless set, that I thought sucked.
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:46:27 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 6/28/2022 5:32 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:Yes! I had the "original" bench top Ryobi AP10 planer back around
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?
1990. It was bullet proof.
My Ryobi recip saw has probably spent more time in the ground, throwing dirt in my
face, than above ground. Lots of small stumps removed, roots cut so a post hole
could be dug, etc. I've stuck it straight down in a hole, arm's length, while laying
on the ground. Rattles the heck out of your shoulder. Maybe that's why I had rotator
cuff surgery last year. ;-)
Just a few weeks ago I removed a bush from my daughter's front yard and took the stump
out with the Ryobi. Quite a few "blind" cuts were made. Yank on the stump, figure out where
it's being held in, stick the saw in the dirt and cut something. Repeat until you can finally
reach the tap root, cut it and out she comes.
Lots of cuts, all the way around...
https://i.imgur.com/oSWz3Iz.jpg
I have a 30+ year old Ryobi reciprocating saw that just won't die, preventing me from
getting new one. ;-)
I've tried a few more recent Ryobi tools, including a cordless set, that I thought sucked.
I was cleaning the shop earlier tonight. Found a Ryobi laser lever kit buried on a back shelf
under the workbench. I think my dad gave it to me quite a while back. I took it out, tried it
and it didn't work worth a shit. It's garbage night, so out it went.
On 6/29/2022 9:10 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:46:27 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 6/28/2022 5:32 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote: >>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:Yes! I had the "original" bench top Ryobi AP10 planer back around
just for curiosity / comments :I think I had that same router (RE600) in my first lift/table.
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
Were older Ryobi tools better than the Ryobi's of today?
1990. It was bullet proof.
My Ryobi recip saw has probably spent more time in the ground, throwing dirt in my
face, than above ground. Lots of small stumps removed, roots cut so a post hole
could be dug, etc. I've stuck it straight down in a hole, arm's length, while laying
on the ground. Rattles the heck out of your shoulder. Maybe that's why I had rotator
cuff surgery last year. ;-)
Just a few weeks ago I removed a bush from my daughter's front yard and took the stump
out with the Ryobi. Quite a few "blind" cuts were made. Yank on the stump, figure out where
it's being held in, stick the saw in the dirt and cut something. Repeat until you can finally
reach the tap root, cut it and out she comes.
Lots of cuts, all the way around...
https://i.imgur.com/oSWz3Iz.jpg
I have a 30+ year old Ryobi reciprocating saw that just won't die, preventing me from
getting new one. ;-)
I've tried a few more recent Ryobi tools, including a cordless set, that I thought sucked.
I was cleaning the shop earlier tonight. Found a Ryobi laser lever kit buried on a back shelfOh yeah I had one of those Ryobi laser kits, it had a suction device
under the workbench. I think my dad gave it to me quite a while back. I took it out, tried it
and it didn't work worth a shit. It's garbage night, so out it went.
and it was on clearance at HD... Not long after that it was on
clearance to the garbage can.
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - -
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for
it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture.
That would be a lot of Ryobi.
https://colorcodes.io/yellow/safety-yellow-color-codes/>
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:25:33 -0400, Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca>And for those not familiar with Canadian furniture, Roxton maple
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
I'd say someone got a killer deal!!!
The pandemic forced many auctioneers to go online -
- in general I think they get better prices for stuff
but there are exceptions - like this one, I'd say.
I'm betting that a few will stick to online rather than
returning to live auction sales.
At a recent live auction, <poorly attended> I saw a
nice Roxton solid maple kitchen set sell for $ 20.
.. table, chairs, buffet/china all in great shape.
John T.
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - -
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for
it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture.
That would be a lot of Ryobi.And about 1/100 as much Festool
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 09:07:28 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:25:33 -0400, Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> >>wrote:And for those not familiar with Canadian furniture, Roxton maple
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:36:13 -0400, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
just for curiosity / comments :
https://rockfordauctioncentre.hibid.com/lot/124577534/woodworking-station/?cpage=8&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
John T.
I'd say someone got a killer deal!!!
The pandemic forced many auctioneers to go online -
- in general I think they get better prices for stuff
but there are exceptions - like this one, I'd say.
I'm betting that a few will stick to online rather than
returning to live auction sales.
At a recent live auction, <poorly attended> I saw a
nice Roxton solid maple kitchen set sell for $ 20.
.. table, chairs, buffet/china all in great shape.
John T.
furniture is top-notch stuff - kinda like Ethan Allen in the USA.
Mafe in my childhood home town of Elmira Ontario
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 20:44:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:And about 1/100 as much Festool
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for
it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture. >>> You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - -
That would be a lot of Ryobi.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 20:44:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:And about 1/100 as much Festool
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for
it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture. >>> You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - -
That would be a lot of Ryobi.
On 6/30/2022 10:09 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 20:44:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:And about 1/100 as much Festool
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for >>>>> it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture. >>>> You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - - >>>
That would be a lot of Ryobi.
Not a Festool fan?
On 6/30/2022 10:09 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 20:44:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:And about 1/100 as much Festool
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for >>>>> it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture. >>>> You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - - >>>
That would be a lot of Ryobi.
Not a Festool fan?That would be champaign living on a beer (or water) budget
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:58:51 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 6/30/2022 10:09 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:That would be champaign living on a beer (or water) budget
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 20:44:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:And about 1/100 as much Festool
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) >>>>> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for >>>>>> it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture. >>>>> You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - - >>>>
That would be a lot of Ryobi.
Not a Festool fan?
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 20:55:17 -0400, Clare Snyder <cl...@snyder.on.ca>
wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:58:51 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
Just a nit... That would be champagne. Champaign is a city in Illinois (where I grew up). ;-)On 6/30/2022 10:09 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:That would be champaign living on a beer (or water) budget
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 20:44:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:And about 1/100 as much Festool
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) >>>>> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - - >>>>
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for >>>>>> it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture.
That would be a lot of Ryobi.
Not a Festool fan?
On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 10:09:59 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 20:55:17 -0400, Clare Snyder <cl...@snyder.on.ca>
wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:58:51 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:Just a nit... That would be champagne. Champaign is a city in Illinois
On 6/30/2022 10:09 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:That would be champaign living on a beer (or water) budget
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 20:44:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:And about 1/100 as much Festool
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) >> >>>>> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - - >> >>>>
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> >>>>>>>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for >> >>>>>> it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture.
That would be a lot of Ryobi.
Not a Festool fan?
(where I grew up). ;-)
Where you lived. Grew up is open for debate. ;-)
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:58:51 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 6/30/2022 10:09 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:That would be champaign living on a beer (or water) budget
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 20:44:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 6/28/2022 8:30 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:And about 1/100 as much Festool
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:35:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) >>>>> wrote:
DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:43:21 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>>>>>> DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> writes:
In general, as-is it all seems OK for rough work, but it would need a lot of work to get it
ready for finish carpentry - especially if the tools need to be replaced.What kind of finish carpentry are you considering here? A SCMS is much more
useful for that type of work (mouldings, trim, etc.).
My point was that the cabinet itself needs some TLC. I never specifically said that any
of the tools *needed* to be replaced. I said it would be more work *if* the tools needed
to be replaced.
I guess that's where we differ. I find the cabinet to be perfect for >>>>>> it's purpose, there's no need to make it into a piece of fine furniture. >>>>> You do if it is going to hold $100,000 of "green tools" I guess - - - >>>>
That would be a lot of Ryobi.
Not a Festool fan?
... the proverbial :-)
https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/lot/141048097/bag-of-hammers/?cpage=3&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 12:30:47 -0500, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
The only thing dumber than that auction item is the winner.
... the proverbial :-)
https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/lot/141048097/bag-of-hammers/?cpage=3&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
On 1/4/2023 10:56 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 12:30:47 -0500, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
At least the owner has them "all in one place". I'm sort of enviousThe only thing dumber than that auction item is the winner.
... the proverbial :-)
https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/lot/141048097/bag-of-hammers/?cpage=3&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
that all of mine aren't in one place (I'm talking mallets, ball-peens, a tack hammer, claw hammers, more?).. For Christmas, I got the 14' tree-cutting/lopping tool I asked for ("Fiskars" brand, at HD). I'm sort
of looking forward to trying it out in the spring! It's not "industrial-strength", but I don't have an orchard. It actually feels stronger and heavier than I expected it to. It may lose some of that strength when it is extended from 7', we'll see.
Wishing everyone here a great 2023!!!
On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 2:18:01 AM UTC-6, Bill wrote:cutting a big heavy branch log a foot away while perched at the top of a 12 foot ladder was maybe not safe either.
On 1/4/2023 10:56 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 12:30:47 -0500, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:At least the owner has them "all in one place". I'm sort of envious
The only thing dumber than that auction item is the winner.
... the proverbial :-)
https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/lot/141048097/bag-of-hammers/?cpage=3&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
that all of mine aren't in one place (I'm talking mallets, ball-peens, a
tack hammer, claw hammers, more?).. For Christmas, I got the 14'
tree-cutting/lopping tool I asked for ("Fiskars" brand, at HD). I'm sort
of looking forward to trying it out in the spring! It's not
"industrial-strength", but I don't have an orchard. It actually feels
stronger and heavier than I expected it to. It may lose some of that
strength when it is extended from 7', we'll see.
Wishing everyone here a great 2023!!!
Had to look up your Fiskars tree pruner. Year ago I had need for something like that. Big dead branch was hanging down in the tree in the front yard. Been there for years. But the ladder was not long enough to get me close enough to cut it. And
On 1/5/2023 3:57 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:cutting a big heavy branch log a foot away while perched at the top of a 12 foot ladder was maybe not safe either.
On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 2:18:01 AM UTC-6, Bill wrote:
On 1/4/2023 10:56 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 12:30:47 -0500, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:At least the owner has them "all in one place". I'm sort of envious
The only thing dumber than that auction item is the winner.
... the proverbial :-)
https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/lot/141048097/bag-of-hammers/?cpage=3&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
that all of mine aren't in one place (I'm talking mallets, ball-peens, a >> tack hammer, claw hammers, more?).. For Christmas, I got the 14'
tree-cutting/lopping tool I asked for ("Fiskars" brand, at HD). I'm sort >> of looking forward to trying it out in the spring! It's not
"industrial-strength", but I don't have an orchard. It actually feels
stronger and heavier than I expected it to. It may lose some of that
strength when it is extended from 7', we'll see.
Wishing everyone here a great 2023!!!
Had to look up your Fiskars tree pruner. Year ago I had need for something like that. Big dead branch was hanging down in the tree in the front yard. Been there for years. But the ladder was not long enough to get me close enough to cut it. And
I mainly have tall bushes along the back fence, and they are getting so
tall I couldn't even reach the top of the fronts of them the last time. Hopefully tool will help. I also have a "Weeping Cherry" in the front
yard that I've never been able to reach the top of (in 12 yrs). So
hopefully this pruner will make spring cleanup a little more "fun".
Don't get me wrong, if she had ruled against my request, and presented
me a motorcycle instead, I would have been "cool with that"! : )
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