• Fine Carpentry - 2 x 4's and Pocket Screws ;-)

    From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 26 20:09:16 2022
    My daughter and I did some simple "woodworking" today.

    She needed to move her exercise area from the 2nd floor to the basement.
    Her boyfriend told her that the dining room chandelier bounced violently
    when she did her jumping around stuff. She doesn't want the 90 year old
    lath and plaster ceiling to end up on the table.

    So, we tackled that project today.

    Blank canvas:

    https://i.imgur.com/C7HK45R.jpg

    Framing built with 2 x 4's and pocket screws throughout:

    https://i.imgur.com/tnnpo5v.jpg

    Semi-finished product, other than painting the exposed framing to match
    the walls and some type of shelf unit to hold her equipment and laptop:

    https://i.imgur.com/0qx6qpR.jpg

    I put a receptacle behind the TV and one on the left for her laptop.

    In the reflection you can see the workbench we built last year and the
    shelves we built a few months ago. 12' long, 2' deep, 7' high.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 27 16:17:32 2022
    On 2/26/2022 10:09 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    My daughter and I did some simple "woodworking" today.

    She needed to move her exercise area from the 2nd floor to the basement.
    Her boyfriend told her that the dining room chandelier bounced violently
    when she did her jumping around stuff. She doesn't want the 90 year old
    lath and plaster ceiling to end up on the table.

    So, we tackled that project today.

    Blank canvas:

    https://i.imgur.com/C7HK45R.jpg

    Framing built with 2 x 4's and pocket screws throughout:

    https://i.imgur.com/tnnpo5v.jpg

    Semi-finished product, other than painting the exposed framing to match
    the walls and some type of shelf unit to hold her equipment and laptop:

    https://i.imgur.com/0qx6qpR.jpg

    I put a receptacle behind the TV and one on the left for her laptop.

    In the reflection you can see the workbench we built last year and the shelves we built a few months ago. 12' long, 2' deep, 7' high.


    Cool!

    Questions and comments, and or comments and questions.

    I'm going to put a large mirror in my shop to double its size! What
    could go wrong with that?

    Was the arbor nut "a good size" or was it a specific size? ;~)

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Leon on Sun Feb 27 16:20:16 2022
    On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:17:43 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 10:09 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    My daughter and I did some simple "woodworking" today.

    She needed to move her exercise area from the 2nd floor to the basement. Her boyfriend told her that the dining room chandelier bounced violently when she did her jumping around stuff. She doesn't want the 90 year old lath and plaster ceiling to end up on the table.

    So, we tackled that project today.

    Blank canvas:

    https://i.imgur.com/C7HK45R.jpg

    Framing built with 2 x 4's and pocket screws throughout:

    https://i.imgur.com/tnnpo5v.jpg

    Semi-finished product, other than painting the exposed framing to match
    the walls and some type of shelf unit to hold her equipment and laptop:

    https://i.imgur.com/0qx6qpR.jpg

    I put a receptacle behind the TV and one on the left for her laptop.

    In the reflection you can see the workbench we built last year and the shelves we built a few months ago. 12' long, 2' deep, 7' high.
    Cool!

    Questions and comments, and or comments and questions.

    I'm going to put a large mirror in my shop to double its size!

    It does make the basement look much bigger. ;-)

    What could go wrong with that?

    A wayward 2 x 4? Whoops...small shop again.

    Was the arbor nut "a good size" or was it a specific size? ;~)

    Luckily I got away without needing the TS. I turned it on after
    changing the blade and I'm pretty sure the bearings are shot. I
    didn't like the sound of it at all. The BF's over for dinner tonight
    so I told him that it sounds terrible. He said it's had a rough life.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Sun Feb 27 20:30:47 2022
    On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 16:20:16 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:17:43 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 10:09 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    My daughter and I did some simple "woodworking" today.

    She needed to move her exercise area from the 2nd floor to the basement. >> > Her boyfriend told her that the dining room chandelier bounced violently >> > when she did her jumping around stuff. She doesn't want the 90 year old
    lath and plaster ceiling to end up on the table.

    So, we tackled that project today.

    Blank canvas:

    https://i.imgur.com/C7HK45R.jpg

    Framing built with 2 x 4's and pocket screws throughout:

    https://i.imgur.com/tnnpo5v.jpg

    Semi-finished product, other than painting the exposed framing to match
    the walls and some type of shelf unit to hold her equipment and laptop:

    https://i.imgur.com/0qx6qpR.jpg

    I put a receptacle behind the TV and one on the left for her laptop.

    In the reflection you can see the workbench we built last year and the
    shelves we built a few months ago. 12' long, 2' deep, 7' high.
    Cool!

    Questions and comments, and or comments and questions.

    I'm going to put a large mirror in my shop to double its size!

    It does make the basement look much bigger. ;-)

    Ooohh! Danger, Will Robinson! Since this is a workout area, that
    sounds a lot like "Does this dress make my ass look bigger?"

    What could go wrong with that?

    A wayward 2 x 4? Whoops...small shop again.

    Was the arbor nut "a good size" or was it a specific size? ;~)

    Luckily I got away without needing the TS. I turned it on after
    changing the blade and I'm pretty sure the bearings are shot. I
    didn't like the sound of it at all. The BF's over for dinner tonight
    so I told him that it sounds terrible. He said it's had a rough life.

    Apparently.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 4 00:28:49 2022
    On 2/26/2022 23:09, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    My daughter and I did some simple "woodworking" today.

    She needed to move her exercise area from the 2nd floor to the basement.
    Her boyfriend told her that the dining room chandelier bounced violently
    when she did her jumping around stuff. She doesn't want the 90 year old
    lath and plaster ceiling to end up on the table.

    So, we tackled that project today.

    Blank canvas:

    https://i.imgur.com/C7HK45R.jpg

    Framing built with 2 x 4's and pocket screws throughout:

    https://i.imgur.com/tnnpo5v.jpg

    Semi-finished product, other than painting the exposed framing to match
    the walls and some type of shelf unit to hold her equipment and laptop:

    https://i.imgur.com/0qx6qpR.jpg

    I put a receptacle behind the TV and one on the left for her laptop.

    In the reflection you can see the workbench we built last year and the shelves we built a few months ago. 12' long, 2' deep, 7' high.


    Nice! I noticed the same thing, before I moved out of Mom's house
    several years ago. When she would do exercise videos in her bedroom,
    above the dining room of our circa 1917 house, the chandelier would
    "bounce", and I even saw the ceiling vibrate. Not good at all, for 100
    year old plaster keys, especially on a ceiling, with gravity working
    against it. I convinced her to switch to the living room for work-outs.

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 4 07:55:24 2022
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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net on Fri Mar 4 06:49:23 2022
    On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 7:55:32 AM UTC-5, keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 3/4/2022 12:28 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 23:09, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    My daughter and I did some simple "woodworking" today.

    She needed to move her exercise area from the 2nd floor to the basement. >> Her boyfriend told her that the dining room chandelier bounced violently >> when she did her jumping around stuff. She doesn't want the 90 year old
    lath and plaster ceiling to end up on the table.

    So, we tackled that project today.

    Blank canvas:

    https://i.imgur.com/C7HK45R.jpg

    Framing built with 2 x 4's and pocket screws throughout:

    https://i.imgur.com/tnnpo5v.jpg

    Semi-finished product, other than painting the exposed framing to match
    the walls and some type of shelf unit to hold her equipment and laptop:

    https://i.imgur.com/0qx6qpR.jpg

    I put a receptacle behind the TV and one on the left for her laptop.

    In the reflection you can see the workbench we built last year and the
    shelves we built a few months ago. 12' long, 2' deep, 7' high.


    Nice! I noticed the same thing, before I moved out of Mom's house
    several years ago. When she would do exercise videos in her bedroom,
    above the dining room of our circa 1917 house, the chandelier would "bounce", and I even saw the ceiling vibrate. Not good at all, for 100 year old plaster keys, especially on a ceiling, with gravity working against it. I convinced her to switch to the living room for work-outs.
    I believe even new house will bounce it you do your exercise in a
    frequency the resonates with the house.

    When I was in high school a modern (1968) brick and steel building, we learned that if the class bounced on our chairs, together we could make
    the building vibrate. The teacher on the floor below us loved it.

    Remember the Tacoma Narrows Bridge that self destructed

    True, but "bouncing" isn't the main issue. The main issue is the damage that the bouncing and jarring does to 90 - 100+ YO plaster and lath ceilings.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net on Fri Mar 4 13:53:52 2022
    On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 07:55:24 -0500, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 3/4/2022 12:28 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 23:09, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    My daughter and I did some simple "woodworking" today.

    She needed to move her exercise area from the 2nd floor to the basement. >>> Her boyfriend told her that the dining room chandelier bounced violently >>> when she did her jumping around stuff. She doesn't want the 90 year old
    lath and plaster ceiling to end up on the table.

    So, we tackled that project today.

    Blank canvas:

    https://i.imgur.com/C7HK45R.jpg

    Framing built with 2 x 4's and pocket screws throughout:

    https://i.imgur.com/tnnpo5v.jpg

    Semi-finished product, other than painting the exposed framing to match
    the walls and some type of shelf unit to hold her equipment and laptop:

    https://i.imgur.com/0qx6qpR.jpg

    I put a receptacle behind the TV and one on the left for her laptop.

    In the reflection you can see the workbench we built last year and the
    shelves we built a few months ago. 12' long, 2' deep, 7' high.


    Nice! I noticed the same thing, before I moved out of Mom's house
    several years ago. When she would do exercise videos in her bedroom,
    above the dining room of our circa 1917 house, the chandelier would
    "bounce", and I even saw the ceiling vibrate. Not good at all, for 100
    year old plaster keys, especially on a ceiling, with gravity working
    against it. I convinced her to switch to the living room for work-outs.

    I believe even new house will bounce it you do your exercise in a
    frequency the resonates with the house.

    When I was in high school a modern (1968) brick and steel building, we >learned that if the class bounced on our chairs, together we could make
    the building vibrate. The teacher on the floor below us loved it.

    Remember the Tacoma Narrows Bridge that self destructed

    There are multiple cases of stadium seating collapsing and countless
    decks collapsing due to dynamic, or worse, resonant loads. The "wave"
    can be a killer.

    Before the Tacoma Narrows bridge collapse, resonance and aerodynamics
    wasn't in the purview of civil engineers. Building a bridge that will
    stand isn't a big problem. The Romans did it a couple of thousand
    years ago. Building a bridge to "barely" stand requires engineering.
    These engineers didn't understand the complete problem and pushed the
    design past, the then, current knowledge.

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net on Sat Mar 5 00:18:20 2022
    On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 07:55:24 -0500, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 3/4/2022 12:28 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 23:09, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    My daughter and I did some simple "woodworking" today.

    She needed to move her exercise area from the 2nd floor to the basement. >>> Her boyfriend told her that the dining room chandelier bounced violently >>> when she did her jumping around stuff. She doesn't want the 90 year old
    lath and plaster ceiling to end up on the table.

    So, we tackled that project today.

    Blank canvas:

    https://i.imgur.com/C7HK45R.jpg

    Framing built with 2 x 4's and pocket screws throughout:

    https://i.imgur.com/tnnpo5v.jpg

    Semi-finished product, other than painting the exposed framing to match
    the walls and some type of shelf unit to hold her equipment and laptop:

    https://i.imgur.com/0qx6qpR.jpg

    I put a receptacle behind the TV and one on the left for her laptop.

    In the reflection you can see the workbench we built last year and the
    shelves we built a few months ago. 12' long, 2' deep, 7' high.


    Nice!  I noticed the same thing, before I moved out of Mom's house
    several years ago.  When she would do exercise videos in her bedroom,
    above the dining room of our circa 1917 house, the chandelier would
    "bounce", and I even saw the ceiling vibrate.  Not good at all, for 100
    year old plaster keys, especially on a ceiling, with gravity working
    against it.  I convinced her to switch to the living room for work-outs.

    I believe even new house will bounce it you do your exercise in a
    frequency the resonates with the house.

    When I was in high school a modern (1968) brick and steel building, we >learned that if the class bounced on our chairs, together we could make
    the building vibrate. The teacher on the floor below us loved it.

    Remember the Tacoma Narrows Bridge that self destructed

    When I was working at Enormous Aerospace there was a very petite young
    woman whose stride apparently was right at the resonant frequency of
    the floor in our building--when she walked anywhere the whole building
    could feel it.

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