• Re: What is it? - I mean...Why is it?

    From hubops@ccanoemail.ca@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Tue Jan 25 12:32:08 2022
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:19:11 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the
    inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over >the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf


    .. any excuse for a patent ?
    I once found a "What is it" that turned out to be an ice pick -
    there are many dozens of ice pick "designs" & therefore patents !

    This is what I usually grab for a sliver :

    https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/home/personal-care/tweezers/10434-sliver-gripper-tweezers?item=86K9401

    They are pointy-enough to do a little shallow excavating,
    but sometimes a needle is required.
    John T.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 25 09:19:11 2022
    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the
    inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over
    the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf

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  • From hubops@ccanoemail.ca@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Tue Jan 25 13:03:04 2022
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:48:55 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 12:30:10 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:19:11 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the
    inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over >> >the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf
    .. any excuse for a patent ?
    I once found a "What is it" that turned out to be an ice pick -
    there are many dozens of ice pick "designs" & therefore patents !

    This is what I usually grab for a sliver :

    https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/home/personal-care/tweezers/10434-sliver-gripper-tweezers?item=86K9401

    They are pointy-enough to do a little shallow excavating,
    but sometimes a needle is required.
    John T.

    This pin has dug out many a splinter. Many years' worth. That's just a small sample of
    the holes in the drywall behind my workbench. It's one tool that *always* get put back
    where it belongs. ;-)

    https://i.imgur.com/DiCjpzg.jpg



    I find the sewing pins a bit too bendy - I keep a sewing needle
    with the tweezers - but it's not easy to hang-on-to ..
    ... perhaps there's an idea for a new patented invention -
    a handy dandy easy-to-hold needle holder !
    .. one that old calloused & arthritic fingers can grip.
    John T.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to hub...@ccanoemail.ca on Tue Jan 25 09:48:55 2022
    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 12:30:10 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:19:11 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the >inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over >the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf
    .. any excuse for a patent ?
    I once found a "What is it" that turned out to be an ice pick -
    there are many dozens of ice pick "designs" & therefore patents !

    This is what I usually grab for a sliver :

    https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/home/personal-care/tweezers/10434-sliver-gripper-tweezers?item=86K9401

    They are pointy-enough to do a little shallow excavating,
    but sometimes a needle is required.
    John T.

    This pin has dug out many a splinter. Many years' worth. That's just a small sample of
    the holes in the drywall behind my workbench. It's one tool that *always* get put back
    where it belongs. ;-)

    https://i.imgur.com/DiCjpzg.jpg

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  • From Brian Welch@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Tue Jan 25 10:35:41 2022
    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 1:17:31 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    hub...@ccanoemail.ca writes:
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:48:55 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

    This pin has dug out many a splinter. Many years' worth. That's just a small sample of
    the holes in the drywall behind my workbench. It's one tool that *always* get put back
    where it belongs. ;-)

    https://i.imgur.com/DiCjpzg.jpg



    I find the sewing pins a bit too bendy - I keep a sewing needle
    with the tweezers - but it's not easy to hang-on-to ..
    ... perhaps there's an idea for a new patented invention -
    a handy dandy easy-to-hold needle holder !
    .. one that old calloused & arthritic fingers can grip.
    John T.

    A dowel, a 1/16" drill bit and a bit of epoxy.

    a like new utility knife blade works best for me...pick it out with the sharp blade, or cut along side if it doesn't cooperate with the point...
    Of course there is always ichthammol for the feint of heart...

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to hubops@ccanoemail.ca on Tue Jan 25 18:17:27 2022
    hubops@ccanoemail.ca writes:
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:48:55 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    This pin has dug out many a splinter. Many years' worth. That's just a small sample of
    the holes in the drywall behind my workbench. It's one tool that *always* get put back
    where it belongs. ;-)

    https://i.imgur.com/DiCjpzg.jpg



    I find the sewing pins a bit too bendy - I keep a sewing needle
    with the tweezers - but it's not easy to hang-on-to ..
    ... perhaps there's an idea for a new patented invention -
    a handy dandy easy-to-hold needle holder !
    .. one that old calloused & arthritic fingers can grip.
    John T.


    A dowel, a 1/16" drill bit and a bit of epoxy.

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  • From hubops@ccanoemail.ca@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 25 14:11:31 2022
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:17:27 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    hubops@ccanoemail.ca writes:
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:48:55 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    This pin has dug out many a splinter. Many years' worth. That's just a small sample of
    the holes in the drywall behind my workbench. It's one tool that *always* get put back
    where it belongs. ;-)

    https://i.imgur.com/DiCjpzg.jpg



    I find the sewing pins a bit too bendy - I keep a sewing needle
    with the tweezers - but it's not easy to hang-on-to ..
    ... perhaps there's an idea for a new patented invention -
    a handy dandy easy-to-hold needle holder !
    .. one that old calloused & arthritic fingers can grip.
    John T.


    A dowel, a 1/16" drill bit and a bit of epoxy.


    Ta-da !

    https://imgur.com/a/wvMGCnm

    I was - just this morning - looking for axle pegs
    for the grand-daughter's school project -
    .. so I knew exactly where to get one. :-)
    John T.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to hubops@ccanoemail.ca on Tue Jan 25 14:12:33 2022
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:32:08 -0500, hubops@ccanoemail.ca wrote:

    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:19:11 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the >>inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over >>the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf


    .. any excuse for a patent ?
    I once found a "What is it" that turned out to be an ice pick -
    there are many dozens of ice pick "designs" & therefore patents !

    This is what I usually grab for a sliver :

    https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/home/personal-care/tweezers/10434-sliver-gripper-tweezers?item=86K9401

    They are pointy-enough to do a little shallow excavating,
    but sometimes a needle is required.

    That's what immediately came into my mind. I use a very sharp pair of tweezers, ones like I used to pick up 10x20mil resistors last month.
    ;-)

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 25 13:16:25 2022
    On 1/25/2022 11:19 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the
    inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf


    Handy to carry in your pocket. Have you ever carried regular tweeters
    in your pocket?

    I needed a pair some time back when I got a narley splinter from a piece
    of Ipe at the limber yard.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to hub...@ccanoemail.ca on Tue Jan 25 11:31:54 2022
    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 1:01:03 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:48:55 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 12:30:10 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:19:11 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the
    inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over
    the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf
    .. any excuse for a patent ?
    I once found a "What is it" that turned out to be an ice pick -
    there are many dozens of ice pick "designs" & therefore patents !

    This is what I usually grab for a sliver :

    https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/home/personal-care/tweezers/10434-sliver-gripper-tweezers?item=86K9401

    They are pointy-enough to do a little shallow excavating,
    but sometimes a needle is required.
    John T.

    This pin has dug out many a splinter. Many years' worth. That's just a small sample of
    the holes in the drywall behind my workbench. It's one tool that *always* get put back
    where it belongs. ;-)

    https://i.imgur.com/DiCjpzg.jpg


    I find the sewing pins a bit too bendy - I keep a sewing needle
    with the tweezers - but it's not easy to hang-on-to ..
    ... perhaps there's an idea for a new patented invention -
    a handy dandy easy-to-hold needle holder !
    .. one that old calloused & arthritic fingers can grip.
    John T.

    That's what this patent is for:

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf

    There are other tweezer patents with built-in needles. The problem I see
    is that if you damage the needle, you may have reduced the item to a pair
    of tweezers that simply weighs more than many others. ;-)

    My paternal grandfather used to invent things like the tweezers I
    posted the pictures of. I found those in a box of my dad's things
    but it turns out that they aren't one of Grandpa's patents. Grandpa
    had a patent for a laboratory-quality check-valve, a nut-cracker and
    pick set, a handle for removing cupcake pans from the oven and
    few others.

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  • From Radey Shouman@21:1/5 to hubops@ccanoemail.ca on Tue Jan 25 14:36:08 2022
    hubops@ccanoemail.ca writes:

    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:48:55 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 12:30:10 PM UTC-5, hub...@ccanoemail.ca wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:19:11 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the
    inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over >>> >the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf
    .. any excuse for a patent ?
    I once found a "What is it" that turned out to be an ice pick -
    there are many dozens of ice pick "designs" & therefore patents !

    This is what I usually grab for a sliver :

    https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/home/personal-care/tweezers/10434-sliver-gripper-tweezers?item=86K9401

    They are pointy-enough to do a little shallow excavating,
    but sometimes a needle is required.
    John T.

    This pin has dug out many a splinter. Many years' worth. That's just
    a small sample of
    the holes in the drywall behind my workbench. It's one tool that
    *always* get put back
    where it belongs. ;-)

    https://i.imgur.com/DiCjpzg.jpg



    I find the sewing pins a bit too bendy - I keep a sewing needle
    with the tweezers - but it's not easy to hang-on-to ..
    ... perhaps there's an idea for a new patented invention -
    a handy dandy easy-to-hold needle holder !
    .. one that old calloused & arthritic fingers can grip.
    John T.

    A pin vise works great. https://www.mcmaster.com/pin-vises/

    I also remember from years ago that student dissecting kits included a
    sharp needle on a stick.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Leon on Tue Jan 25 11:39:28 2022
    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 2:16:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 1/25/2022 11:19 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf
    Handy to carry in your pocket. Have you ever carried regular tweeters
    in your pocket?

    That was one of the reasons that I mentioned in my OP, but...

    I needed a pair some time back when I got a narley splinter from a piece
    of Ipe at the limber yard.

    If you had that pair "some time back", would they have been in your pocket
    when you needed them?

    It's great that they are handy to carry around, but would you?

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 25 15:13:56 2022
    On 1/25/2022 1:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 2:16:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 1/25/2022 11:19 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the
    inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over >>> the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf
    Handy to carry in your pocket. Have you ever carried regular tweeters
    in your pocket?

    That was one of the reasons that I mentioned in my OP, but...

    I needed a pair some time back when I got a narley splinter from a piece
    of Ipe at the limber yard.

    If you had that pair "some time back", would they have been in your pocket when you needed them?

    It's great that they are handy to carry around, but would you?

    Good question. But most certainly I would have had a pair in my
    truck's deep dark console along with my work gloves and Kleenex, hand sanitizer, tape measure, etc. Having the pointy end covered would
    prevent me from finding them the painful way.

    Just as I grab the tape measure as a minimum, when buying wood, I might
    also grab the tweezers and put those in my pocket.

    I always carry a single lock blade pocket knife. My previous knife had
    been sharpened so much that the point no longer was inside the knife
    when closed. I had to cut/stick the end of my finger more than once to
    steer me towards a new knife. So I do carry sharp objects that are not
    always in a safe mode.

    I guess until you have the need you don't really see the need.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Tue Jan 25 15:20:13 2022
    On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 11:39:28 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 2:16:33 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
    On 1/25/2022 11:19 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    The "What is it?" is easy. It's the "Why?" that's worth a discussion.

    To make it easier to carry in your pocket or maybe just because the
    inventor wanted to have some fun?

    https://i.imgur.com/efaL5Wv.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/uXJdWOi.jpg

    Then there's this one, which sort of makes sense, even if it is a bit over >> > the top.

    https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4494543.pdf
    Handy to carry in your pocket. Have you ever carried regular tweeters
    in your pocket?

    That was one of the reasons that I mentioned in my OP, but...

    I needed a pair some time back when I got a narley splinter from a piece
    of Ipe at the limber yard.

    If you had that pair "some time back", would they have been in your pocket >when you needed them?

    It's great that they are handy to carry around, but would you?

    Tweezers are always with me, swiss army knives.

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