• Re: Sears Table Saw Fence Upgrade

    From Leon@21:1/5 to Chris Hyndman on Sun Jan 9 15:24:01 2022
    On 1/8/2022 10:15 PM, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    T-Square Beismeyer clone. I put a Jet clone on mine about 25 years ago.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Chris Hyndman on Mon Jan 10 19:52:37 2022
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    I put a Delta T-Square on my 113.298031 10" TS.

    All I can say is "Why didn't I do it sooner?"

    P.S. If your saw is set up like mine, consider this if you ever need to
    change the arbor or arbor bearing:

    Instead of doing it the usual way as shown on YouTube (removing the
    arbor assembly, etc.) I cut a hole in the side of the cabinet and removed
    just the arbor itself.

    No need to realign anything, no heavy lifting, just a hole in the side
    of the case. I screwed a piece of plywood over the hole and now hang
    my featherboards and other accessories on it.

    I also removed the right side extension table and replaced it with a
    router table.

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 11 07:47:14 2022
    On 1/10/2022 10:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    I put a Delta T-Square on my 113.298031 10" TS.

    All I can say is "Why didn't I do it sooner?"

    P.S. If your saw is set up like mine, consider this if you ever need to change the arbor or arbor bearing:

    Instead of doing it the usual way as shown on YouTube (removing the
    arbor assembly, etc.) I cut a hole in the side of the cabinet and removed just the arbor itself.

    No need to realign anything, no heavy lifting, just a hole in the side
    of the case. I screwed a piece of plywood over the hole and now hang
    my featherboards and other accessories on it.

    I also removed the right side extension table and replaced it with a
    router table.

    Question. I have never checked the feasibility, but thought about
    changing the arbor.

    Could you flip the saw upside down and remove the base and the sides
    from the top and change the arbor that way?

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net on Tue Jan 11 08:51:36 2022
    On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 7:47:19 AM UTC-5, keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 1/10/2022 10:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    I put a Delta T-Square on my 113.298031 10" TS.

    All I can say is "Why didn't I do it sooner?"

    P.S. If your saw is set up like mine, consider this if you ever need to change the arbor or arbor bearing:

    Instead of doing it the usual way as shown on YouTube (removing the
    arbor assembly, etc.) I cut a hole in the side of the cabinet and removed just the arbor itself.

    No need to realign anything, no heavy lifting, just a hole in the side
    of the case. I screwed a piece of plywood over the hole and now hang
    my featherboards and other accessories on it.

    I also removed the right side extension table and replaced it with a
    router table.

    Question. I have never checked the feasibility, but thought about
    changing the arbor.

    Could you flip the saw upside down and remove the base and the sides
    from the top and change the arbor that way?

    Theoretically, yes. That's often how it is suggested that it be done.

    Physically, no. It's a 2 person lift and SWMBO is not capable of helping.

    I probably could have found someone to help, but for various reasons - the small size of my shop being the main one - I decided to try the through- the-side method instead. There's also a few more things that need to be dissembled to get the case off.

    Did I lessen the value of the $100 TS I bought back in the early 90's? Maybe
    to some "it has to be original" fanatic, but that's not me. The T-Square
    fence, router table extension and removable outfeed table make it not only "unoriginal" but also worth a lot more than what the basic saw was.

    Good God, was that original fence a piece of sh*t.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Chris Hyndman on Tue Jan 11 09:46:45 2022
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    Anyone beside me find it strange that we've had 2 posts about a 113.299132
    in as many days - both originating from from Homeowners Hub?

    Coincidence?

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Tue Jan 11 12:04:32 2022
    On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:46:45 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    Anyone beside me find it strange that we've had 2 posts about a 113.299132
    in as many days - both originating from from Homeowners Hub?

    Coincidence?

    Yes coincidence, given the distribution of Sears.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Tue Jan 11 18:30:21 2022
    DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    Anyone beside me find it strange that we've had 2 posts about a 113.299132
    in as many days - both originating from from Homeowners Hub?

    Coincidence?

    I dunno, you've made two posts about it in a single day. Generalizing from two to many is
    fraught.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 11 12:08:39 2022
    On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 1:04:41 PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:46:45 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    Anyone beside me find it strange that we've had 2 posts about a 113.299132 >in as many days - both originating from from Homeowners Hub?

    Coincidence?
    Yes coincidence, given the distribution of Sears.

    Normally I'd agree, but I can't find another post with that model number since 2004.
    "Given the distribution of Sears" you'd think there would a lot more.

    Then we get 2 in 2 days, both from HOH. That just doesn't seem like a coincidence
    to me. No big deal, just seems strange.

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  • From Markem618@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Tue Jan 11 14:43:55 2022
    On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:08:39 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 1:04:41 PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
    On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:46:45 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    Anyone beside me find it strange that we've had 2 posts about a 113.299132 >> >in as many days - both originating from from Homeowners Hub?

    Coincidence?
    Yes coincidence, given the distribution of Sears.

    Normally I'd agree, but I can't find another post with that model number since 2004.
    "Given the distribution of Sears" you'd think there would a lot more.

    Then we get 2 in 2 days, both from HOH. That just doesn't seem like a coincidence
    to me. No big deal, just seems strange.

    !2 inch tablesaws are not that common true. As far as the fellow with
    the motor problem Emerson would be the folks to check with for a
    replacement, if Emerson does not have it you are SOL.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Tue Jan 11 22:15:06 2022
    On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:46:45 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    Anyone beside me find it strange that we've had 2 posts about a 113.299132
    in as many days - both originating from from Homeowners Hub?

    Coincidence?

    No. Intentional. There is nothing worthwhile coming from the
    Homoaners Hub.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Tue Jan 11 22:14:00 2022
    On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:51:36 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 7:47:19 AM UTC-5, keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On 1/10/2022 10:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    I put a Delta T-Square on my 113.298031 10" TS.

    All I can say is "Why didn't I do it sooner?"

    P.S. If your saw is set up like mine, consider this if you ever need to
    change the arbor or arbor bearing:

    Instead of doing it the usual way as shown on YouTube (removing the
    arbor assembly, etc.) I cut a hole in the side of the cabinet and removed >> > just the arbor itself.

    No need to realign anything, no heavy lifting, just a hole in the side
    of the case. I screwed a piece of plywood over the hole and now hang
    my featherboards and other accessories on it.

    I also removed the right side extension table and replaced it with a
    router table.

    Question. I have never checked the feasibility, but thought about
    changing the arbor.

    Could you flip the saw upside down and remove the base and the sides
    from the top and change the arbor that way?

    Theoretically, yes. That's often how it is suggested that it be done.

    Physically, no. It's a 2 person lift and SWMBO is not capable of helping.

    I have that issue too. I rigged a chain and an electric hoist to help
    with such things. Flipping it over would be a bit tricky. I moved
    lifts on my drill press's Bora to the front (swapped all four
    corners). The chain hoist came really handy again.

    I probably could have found someone to help, but for various reasons - the >small size of my shop being the main one - I decided to try the through- >the-side method instead. There's also a few more things that need to be >dissembled to get the case off.

    Did I lessen the value of the $100 TS I bought back in the early 90's? Maybe >to some "it has to be original" fanatic, but that's not me. The T-Square >fence, router table extension and removable outfeed table make it not only >"unoriginal" but also worth a lot more than what the basic saw was.

    Good God, was that original fence a piece of sh*t.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to krw@notreal.com on Wed Jan 12 14:56:09 2022
    krw@notreal.com writes:
    On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:46:45 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    Anyone beside me find it strange that we've had 2 posts about a 113.299132 >>in as many days - both originating from from Homeowners Hub?

    Coincidence?

    No. Intentional. There is nothing worthwhile coming from the
    Homoaners Hub.

    The most likely case is that the individual posted, didn't
    see the post (USENET propogation delays) and reposted
    with a different subject.

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  • From DerbyDad03@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Wed Jan 12 07:56:35 2022
    On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 9:56:15 AM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    k...@notreal.com writes:
    On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:46:45 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
    <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:15:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Hyndman wrote:
    I have Sears 113.299132 12# table saw. I'm wanting to upgrade the fence system. Any suggestions?


    Anyone beside me find it strange that we've had 2 posts about a 113.299132 >>in as many days - both originating from from Homeowners Hub?

    Coincidence?

    No. Intentional. There is nothing worthwhile coming from the
    Homoaners Hub.
    The most likely case is that the individual posted, didn't
    see the post (USENET propogation delays) and reposted
    with a different subject.

    That's the least likely case.

    This thread is related to a fence upgrade, the other was about the motor.
    In addition, the posts came from 2 different usernames on 2 different days.

    Different usernames, different days, completely different content. It's pretty hard to attribute that to an "propagation delay" issue.

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  • From Puckdropper@21:1/5 to teamarrows@eznet.net on Fri Jan 14 06:54:39 2022
    DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote in news:1fa579fb-afae-4c8c-aaff-d410bb162a0cn@googlegroups.com:


    That's the least likely case.

    This thread is related to a fence upgrade, the other was about the
    motor. In addition, the posts came from 2 different usernames on 2
    different days.

    Different usernames, different days, completely different content.
    It's pretty hard to attribute that to an "propagation delay" issue.


    Chances are Google/Bing/AltaVista/Juno/AskJeeves/Yahoo picked up the
    model number from a crawl (of Homeowners Hub?) and sent guy #2 who
    happened to be looking at the same thing our way.

    Puckdropper

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