• Re: Sears 113-299132 12" table saw

    From 10x@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 9 06:20:05 2022
    On Jan 8, 2022, Zenog wrote
    (in article<16c87a16d554f60d$2$2844720$4006de53@news.newsgroupdirect.com>):

    Had this saw for 25 years was working great last week was not over heating, midway in a rip cut the saw just stopped. I thought I had kneed the power switch - nope. and it wont start up. Any ideas? doubt new motor is practical. Thanks

    I had a similar incident a few years back with my mid 80’s vintage table
    saw. It turned out that the motor was literally packed with sawdust from use over the years.

    I used a shop vac and some compressed air to solve the issue. I would caution you to use a dust mask, because it is a very dirty/dusty job,

    Joe
    aka 10x

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 9 07:44:41 2022
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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net on Sun Jan 9 10:19:20 2022
    On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 07:44:41 -0500, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


    On 1/9/2022 6:20 AM, 10x wrote:
    On Jan 8, 2022, Zenog wrote
    (in article<16c87a16d554f60d$2$2844720$4006de53@news.newsgroupdirect.com>): >>
    Had this saw for 25 years was working great last week was not over heating, >>> midway in a rip cut the saw just stopped. I thought I had kneed the power >>> switch - nope. and it wont start up. Any ideas? doubt new motor is practical.
    Thanks

    I had a similar incident a few years back with my mid 80s vintage table
    saw. It turned out that the motor was literally packed with sawdust from use >> over the years.

    I used a shop vac and some compressed air to solve the issue. I would caution
    you to use a dust mask, because it is a very dirty/dusty job,

    Joe
    aka 10x


    Similar experience. While it had a lot of sawdust, there was a wood
    chip in the contacts in the start circuit for the motor. This switch
    is under the plate on the end of the motor. (Assuming your motor is
    similar to mine basically the same as yours)

    Since I had the problem with the motor, part of the clean up process is
    to vacuum he vents in the motor casing

    That's why pretty much all induction motors used for woodworking
    machines are TEFC. It's a nasty environment.

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 9 13:31:34 2022
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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Zenog on Sun Jan 9 15:15:55 2022
    On 1/8/2022 8:45 PM, Zenog wrote:
    Had this saw for 25 years was working great last week was not over
    heating, midway in a rip cut the saw just stopped. I thought I had kneed
    the power switch - nope. and it wont start up. Any ideas? doubt new
    motor is practical. Thanks




    Thermal switch on the end of the motor, or circuit breaker, or GFI.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net on Sun Jan 9 17:11:30 2022
    On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 13:31:34 -0500, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    On 1/9/2022 10:19 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 07:44:41 -0500, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


    On 1/9/2022 6:20 AM, 10x wrote:
    On Jan 8, 2022, Zenog wrote
    (in article<16c87a16d554f60d$2$2844720$4006de53@news.newsgroupdirect.com>):

    Had this saw for 25 years was working great last week was not over heating,
    midway in a rip cut the saw just stopped. I thought I had kneed the power >>>>> switch - nope. and it wont start up. Any ideas? doubt new motor is practical.
    Thanks

    I had a similar incident a few years back with my mid 80s vintage table >>>> saw. It turned out that the motor was literally packed with sawdust from use
    over the years.

    I used a shop vac and some compressed air to solve the issue. I would caution
    you to use a dust mask, because it is a very dirty/dusty job,

    Joe
    aka 10x


    Similar experience. While it had a lot of sawdust, there was a wood
    chip in the contacts in the start circuit for the motor. This switch
    is under the plate on the end of the motor. (Assuming your motor is
    similar to mine basically the same as yours)

    Since I had the problem with the motor, part of the clean up process is
    to vacuum he vents in the motor casing

    That's why pretty much all induction motors used for woodworking
    machines are TEFC. It's a nasty environment.
    My table saw was purchased new in 1969, and runs as well now as it did
    then. The table surface is clean as it was when it was new.

    That's not normal. It's a dusty environment (duh!) so modern tools
    use TEFCs. Do any tools use open frame motors anymore?

    '69 isn't exactly modern. Neither am I, though. I was driving by
    then. ;-)

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