• Re: Hook vacuum to a dimmer switch?

    From Damon Knutson@21:1/5 to Kevin on Wed Jan 5 13:48:21 2022
    On Tuesday, January 6, 2004 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-8, Kevin wrote:
    Hi all,
    Would it be safe to run a FEIN vac (the small one 920watts) off a
    dimmer switch so I can further quiet it down when I'm working in
    stealth mode (3 month old and 3 year old sleeping upstairs). I will
    be building a vac box in the future, but the dimmer would be a $3
    quick solution for now.
    I don't want to screw up the motor via trial and error, so am asking
    anyone's thoughts before I do this. Thanks.
    -Kevin
    I have a MIELE housevac and sure wish they made a shop vac.

    I can tell you that I plugged a vaccuum into a switched outlet one time. I had no idea that the outlet was controlled by that dimmer switch. After a few minutes, either the cord or the switch caught fire (I don't recall which as it was a while ago).
    Dimmer was prolly set to low.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to damon4earth@gmail.com on Wed Jan 5 19:35:33 2022
    On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:48:21 -0800 (PST), Damon Knutson
    <damon4earth@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 6, 2004 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-8, Kevin wrote:
    Hi all,
    Would it be safe to run a FEIN vac (the small one 920watts) off a
    dimmer switch so I can further quiet it down when I'm working in
    stealth mode (3 month old and 3 year old sleeping upstairs). I will
    be building a vac box in the future, but the dimmer would be a $3
    quick solution for now.
    I don't want to screw up the motor via trial and error, so am asking
    anyone's thoughts before I do this. Thanks.
    -Kevin
    I have a MIELE housevac and sure wish they made a shop vac.

    I can tell you that I plugged a vaccuum into a switched outlet one time. I had no idea that the outlet was controlled by that dimmer switch. After a few minutes, either the cord or the switch caught fire (I don't recall which as it was a while ago).
    Dimmer was prolly set to low.

    Don't worry, the kids are sixteen and nineteen. Waking them up is the
    first step in getting them out of the house. Put them to work making
    the noise.

    Even better. Go away!

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  • From Clare Snyder@21:1/5 to damon4earth@gmail.com on Thu Jan 6 21:47:40 2022
    On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:48:21 -0800 (PST), Damon Knutson
    <damon4earth@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 6, 2004 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-8, Kevin wrote:
    Hi all,
    Would it be safe to run a FEIN vac (the small one 920watts) off a
    dimmer switch so I can further quiet it down when I'm working in
    stealth mode (3 month old and 3 year old sleeping upstairs). I will
    be building a vac box in the future, but the dimmer would be a $3
    quick solution for now.
    I don't want to screw up the motor via trial and error, so am asking
    anyone's thoughts before I do this. Thanks.
    -Kevin
    I have a MIELE housevac and sure wish they made a shop vac.

    I can tell you that I plugged a vaccuum into a switched outlet one time. I had no idea that the outlet was controlled by that dimmer switch. After a few minutes, either the cord or the switch caught fire (I don't recall which as it was a while ago).
    Dimmer was prolly set to low.
    Id it is a brushed motor it will run on a dimmer. If it is an
    induction motor or anything other than a brushed motor it will not.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Clare Snyder on Fri Jan 7 10:18:04 2022
    On 1/6/2022 8:47 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:48:21 -0800 (PST), Damon Knutson <damon4earth@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 6, 2004 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-8, Kevin wrote:
    Hi all,
    Would it be safe to run a FEIN vac (the small one 920watts) off a
    dimmer switch so I can further quiet it down when I'm working in
    stealth mode (3 month old and 3 year old sleeping upstairs). I will
    be building a vac box in the future, but the dimmer would be a $3
    quick solution for now.
    I don't want to screw up the motor via trial and error, so am asking
    anyone's thoughts before I do this. Thanks.
    -Kevin
    I have a MIELE housevac and sure wish they made a shop vac.

    I can tell you that I plugged a vaccuum into a switched outlet one time. I had no idea that the outlet was controlled by that dimmer switch. After a few minutes, either the cord or the switch caught fire (I don't recall which as it was a while ago).
    Dimmer was prolly set to low.
    Id it is a brushed motor it will run on a dimmer. If it is an
    induction motor or anything other than a brushed motor it will not.


    FWIW I have a speed control in line switch on my router table. I used
    it for my single speed Bosch.

    I how have a variable speed router in that table and I run it through
    the same switch.

    BUT I have to turn the variable speed controller full on on the inline
    switch otherwise the router runs like crap, regardless of the speed
    setting on the router.

    I suspect that the VS on the router wants to see the correct voltage
    coming in to work properly.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to Leon on Fri Jan 7 16:45:58 2022
    On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 10:18:04 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

    On 1/6/2022 8:47 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:48:21 -0800 (PST), Damon Knutson
    <damon4earth@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, January 6, 2004 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-8, Kevin wrote:
    Hi all,
    Would it be safe to run a FEIN vac (the small one 920watts) off a
    dimmer switch so I can further quiet it down when I'm working in
    stealth mode (3 month old and 3 year old sleeping upstairs). I will
    be building a vac box in the future, but the dimmer would be a $3
    quick solution for now.
    I don't want to screw up the motor via trial and error, so am asking
    anyone's thoughts before I do this. Thanks.
    -Kevin
    I have a MIELE housevac and sure wish they made a shop vac.

    I can tell you that I plugged a vaccuum into a switched outlet one time. I had no idea that the outlet was controlled by that dimmer switch. After a few minutes, either the cord or the switch caught fire (I don't recall which as it was a while ago).
    Dimmer was prolly set to low.
    Id it is a brushed motor it will run on a dimmer. If it is an
    induction motor or anything other than a brushed motor it will not.


    FWIW I have a speed control in line switch on my router table. I used
    it for my single speed Bosch.

    I how have a variable speed router in that table and I run it through
    the same switch.

    BUT I have to turn the variable speed controller full on on the inline
    switch otherwise the router runs like crap, regardless of the speed
    setting on the router.

    I suspect that the VS on the router wants to see the correct voltage
    coming in to work properly.

    Sorta. You have two voltage controllers in series. The second
    doesn't like the waveform of the first. These controllers work by
    altering the sine wave by clipping it.

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