I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughFor those tools that can be hung on the wall I use nails. You
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I
have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my
work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with
a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and
find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >fasteners.
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 21:06:52 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through >>everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
For those tools that can be hung on the wall I use nails. You
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
can nail wood strips or a sheet of plywood to the wall, then
put nails in wherever they are needed. If you need to change
the pattern you can just take the nails out and put some
new ones in wherever you need them. Pegboards are a PITA.
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
For those tools that can be hung on the wall I use nails. You
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
can nail wood strips or a sheet of plywood to the wall, then
put nails in wherever they are needed. If you need to change
the pattern you can just take the nails out and put some
new ones in wherever you need them. Pegboards are a PITA.
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I >>have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my
work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with
a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >>organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and >>find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >>fasteners.
A few ideas here :
https://nextluxury.com/home-design/tool-storage-ideas/
I've often thought that a slide-out pegboard cabinet might make
good use of space. - good organization and if built with a door
it would keep the dust out. I'd have heavy duty drawer slides
rather than the cheap rollers often seen in online diy sites.
John T.
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
For those tools that can be hung on the wall I use nails. You
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
can nail wood strips or a sheet of plywood to the wall, then
put nails in wherever they are needed. If you need to change
the pattern you can just take the nails out and put some
new ones in wherever you need them. Pegboards are a PITA.
Bill
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I
have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my
work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with
a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and
find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >fasteners.
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:I think moveable benches is the best thing since ice cream. I am not
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I
have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my
work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with
a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can
organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and
find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and
fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can
get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My
track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 23:40:29 -0500, ads wrote:I some what agree with the cases, however with some items that are used occasionally I like the plastic cases. They keeps all of the
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 21:06:52 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
On 1/1/2022 2:19 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:I think moveable benches is the best thing since ice cream. I am not
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I
have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my
work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with >>> a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can
organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and >>> find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and
fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can
get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My
track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
doing production. each project is different and with a moveable bench I
can move it to get the best work flow. I use it with my table saw, as
and out feed bench. Other times it works best on the left side of the
saw other times on the right. If I am working on the car, it can be
moved to where it works best. Other times it sits in the center of the >garage, especially if I am working on the lawn tractor.
It works a as a painting stand, as it can be moved around to get the bet >approach to the piece being painted.
Mine has two storage shelves, and storage enclosed storage areas in both >ends, for planes, small clamps, wood working templates, etc.
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to >>protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 08:15:29 -0600, Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net>
wrote:
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
For those tools that can be hung on the wall I use nails. You
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
can nail wood strips or a sheet of plywood to the wall, then
put nails in wherever they are needed. If you need to change
the pattern you can just take the nails out and put some
new ones in wherever you need them. Pegboards are a PITA.
Sorry, premature posting...
I'm not sure nails are much better than pegboard. How do you hang a
set of screwdrivers, for instance? Where do you put your drill and
driver?
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
krw@notreal.com wrote in news:u8dvsgh66lfd1pj5b4fegumomr3uv7fqfj@4ax.com:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
The tools that only go to certain tools as much as possible stay near the >tool. Preferably on the tool itself but out of the way.
Fasteners go into drawer organizers. Just buy the big ones and if you
need to store multiple sizes in a drawer make it really easy to tell by
eye like 1/2", 1", and 1 1/2". That's also where you can put your little >things like plug adapters and hose washers.
Things like plumbing pipe connectors and electrical fittings can go into >plastic "shoe box" size boxes and put up on a shelf. Label them. It's
up to you if you want to put 3/4" PVC elbows with 3/4" PVC T's or put all
the elbows together and all the T's together. (I prefer to keep the
sizes together, I usually am only working on one size pipe.)
Tackle boxes can be ideal for "kitting" where you put related tools
together in one box. Kits are IMO better for once in a while tasks, not >everyday jobs.
When it comes to drawers, the most important thing to remember is that >anything over 1 layer is lost. I store my sockets and wrenches in a
drawer, it works great. I have long stopped storing my screwdrivers in
the drawer, it worked terribly.
Speaking of socket holders... A lot of holders seem to make the hole for
the socket fit snugly. You don't have to--3/4" hole will fit 4-5 sizes
of sockets with acceptable slop and if you lose and replace the socket
the new one will fit.
I've found these guys to be really nice for the bench top: >http://puckdroppersplace.us/railroad/images/forsale/small_tool_holder_sm.
jpg Screwdrivers of various sizes go in the holes and pliers and other
tools go in the slots.
One technique I've embraced is the concept of "overflow". When I have to
buy 100 or 1000 of something (like wire nuts), I put some in an easily >accessed location and the rest go into an out-of-the-way location for use >later.
The problem with storage is that there's so many good solutions that are
bad fits for your situation. Drawers are a prime example, it's easy to >overload them so you can't find anything.
Puckdropper
krw@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to >>>protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half will I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
krw@notreal.com on Fri, 31 Dec 2021 21:06:52 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through >>everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal.
All true. OTOH, shallow drawers can hold tool "sets". Wrenches
here, drill stuff there, and so forth. Chisels, carving tools.
Pegboard is one of those "beats nothing" situations. Getting it
laid out is always the big PITA, same goes for tool cabinets, tool
chests, the shop in general.
French Cleat Mania - harumph! I learned about using the
rug/linoleum edge pieces (covers the edge going from rug to floor) as >'cleats' working in a shop which installed whiteboard Enameled sheet
steel over 5/8 OSB. You did not want those falling on a kid. I've
used them to hang a tool cabinet on several walls.
I favor tool bags / rolls, they pack away better, take up less
space. Good for corralling spare batteries, accessories, and the like
for power tools - or even some hand tools. I have the auger bits for
the brace in a tool roll with the braces in a bag.
My situation is that I had to down size, compact is the main
issue. Also, getting the various tools in "one spot" to answer the
question "I know I have one (two? three?) but where is it / are they?"
As much as I'd like a "wall o' tools", with shelves, holders etc,
and all the tools right where I can reach them ... not unless I won
the lottery tonight. Oops forgot to by a ticket. Nuts.
Ideas?
Couple Bossims, regardless of what system you settle on:
If you haven't got time to put it away, what makes you think you
will have time to look for it?
Every place with its thing, every thing with its place.
Workspaces are very personal things, what tools are you most
likely to need most frequently should be easily accessible. On a hook,
set of pegs, "shelf", hanging from a string / pulley, whatever. "Works
for me" is sufficient reason. So is "It made sense at the time." B-)
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I
have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my
work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with
a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can
organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and
find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and
fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can
get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My
track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I
have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my
work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with >>> a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can
organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and >>> find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and
fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can
get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My
track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a >drawer. ;~)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always
do when you are using them.
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:56:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I >>>> have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my
work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with >>>> a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can
organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and >>>> find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >>>> fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can
get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My
track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a
drawer. ;~)
The advantage is that you can easily see when tool has gone walkabout, hopefully before it's needed.
As you said, anything below the first layer (of tools) is lost. ;-)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always
do when you are using them.
You wouldn't want anything with an edge touching anything hard. That
includes rules.
In the same vein, have you looked at the FastCap guide-rail mounting brackets? I thought they were a really good idea but on closer
inspection, the rails are stored on their business edge.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/track-rack-fastcap
Instead, I was thinking about a couple of rabbeted 2xs, the upper with
a deeper rabbet. Store on the back edge. To remove, lift and pull.
The 2xs would protect the rails from being bumped.
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:56:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I >>>> have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my
work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with >>>> a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can
organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and >>>> find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >>>> fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can
get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My
track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a
drawer. ;~)
The advantage is that you can easily see when tool has gone walkabout, hopefully before it's needed.
As you said, anything below the first layer (of tools) is lost. ;-)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always
do when you are using them.
You wouldn't want anything with an edge touching anything hard. That
includes rules.
In the same vein, have you looked at the FastCap guide-rail mounting brackets? I thought they were a really good idea but on closer
inspection, the rails are stored on their business edge.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/track-rack-fastcap
Instead, I was thinking about a couple of rabbeted 2xs, the upper with
a deeper rabbet. Store on the back edge. To remove, lift and pull.
The 2xs would protect the rails from being bumped.
On 1/3/2022 10:40 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:56:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >>>>
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low >>>>>> density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I >>>>> have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my >>>>> work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with >>>>> a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >>>>> organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and >>>>> find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >>>>> fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can >>>> get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My
track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a >>> drawer. ;~)
The advantage is that you can easily see when tool has gone walkabout,
hopefully before it's needed.
As you said, anything below the first layer (of tools) is lost. ;-)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always
do when you are using them.
You wouldn't want anything with an edge touching anything hard. That
includes rules.
In the same vein, have you looked at the FastCap guide-rail mounting
brackets? I thought they were a really good idea but on closer
inspection, the rails are stored on their business edge.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/track-rack-fastcap
Instead, I was thinking about a couple of rabbeted 2xs, the upper with
a deeper rabbet. Store on the back edge. To remove, lift and pull.
The 2xs would protect the rails from being bumped.
So going back to the FastCap hangers. Mount them with the round
spinning closure on bottom. Slide the track rubber edge up into the
opposite captured end and set it on the flat of the other end and spin
the round keeper.
On 1/3/2022 10:40 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:56:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >>>>
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low >>>>>> density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I >>>>> have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my >>>>> work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with >>>>> a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >>>>> organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and >>>>> find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >>>>> fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can >>>> get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My
track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a >>> drawer. ;~)
The advantage is that you can easily see when tool has gone walkabout,
hopefully before it's needed.
As you said, anything below the first layer (of tools) is lost. ;-)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always
do when you are using them.
You wouldn't want anything with an edge touching anything hard. That
includes rules.
Yeah well, did you see the post where I mentioned that my shop did not >resemble a museum? If I was a metal worker and working with extreme >tolerances unlike wood working I would be more careful. My rules,
Bridge City, are stacked on top of each other on a magnetic bar. The
rare case where I store them outside a drawer. No issues in 20+ years.
In the same vein, have you looked at the FastCap guide-rail mounting
brackets? I thought they were a really good idea but on closer
inspection, the rails are stored on their business edge.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/track-rack-fastcap
Yes I saw those when they first came out. It seems a lot, well most of
the FastCap products are for those that don't think ahead as to how
some of the products work. I don't even like their fancy glue bottles.
I had them, the big and small, and ended up tossing them.
I simply hang mine by the holes on the ends. I think that is what the
Instead, I was thinking about a couple of rabbeted 2xs, the upper with
a deeper rabbet. Store on the back edge. To remove, lift and pull.
The 2xs would protect the rails from being bumped.
holes are for. ;~)
On 1/3/2022 10:40 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:56:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >>>>
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low >>>>>> density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I >>>>> have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my >>>>> work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with >>>>> a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >>>>> organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and >>>>> find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >>>>> fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can >>>> get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My
track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a >>> drawer. ;~)
The advantage is that you can easily see when tool has gone walkabout,
hopefully before it's needed.
As you said, anything below the first layer (of tools) is lost. ;-)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always
do when you are using them.
You wouldn't want anything with an edge touching anything hard. That
includes rules.
Yeah well, did you see the post where I mentioned that my shop did not >resemble a museum? If I was a metal worker and working with extreme >tolerances unlike wood working I would be more careful. My rules,
Bridge City, are stacked on top of each other on a magnetic bar. The
rare case where I store them outside a drawer. No issues in 20+ years.
In the same vein, have you looked at the FastCap guide-rail mounting
brackets? I thought they were a really good idea but on closer
inspection, the rails are stored on their business edge.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/track-rack-fastcap
Yes I saw those when they first came out. It seems a lot, well most of
the FastCap products are for those that don't think ahead as to how
some of the products work. I don't even like their fancy glue bottles.
I had them, the big and small, and ended up tossing them.
I simply hang mine by the holes on the ends. I think that is what the
Instead, I was thinking about a couple of rabbeted 2xs, the upper with
a deeper rabbet. Store on the back edge. To remove, lift and pull.
The 2xs would protect the rails from being bumped.
holes are for. ;~)
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:26:06 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 1/3/2022 10:40 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:56:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >>>>>
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through >>>>>>> everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>>>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There >>>>>>> seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low >>>>>>> density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>>>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I >>>>>> have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my >>>>>> work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with >>>>>> a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >>>>>> organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been >>>>>> using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and >>>>>> find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >>>>>> fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against >>>>> the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can >>>>> get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My >>>>> track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a >>>> drawer. ;~)
The advantage is that you can easily see when tool has gone walkabout,
hopefully before it's needed.
As you said, anything below the first layer (of tools) is lost. ;-)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always >>>> do when you are using them.
You wouldn't want anything with an edge touching anything hard. That
includes rules.
In the same vein, have you looked at the FastCap guide-rail mounting
brackets? I thought they were a really good idea but on closer
inspection, the rails are stored on their business edge.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/track-rack-fastcap
Instead, I was thinking about a couple of rabbeted 2xs, the upper with
a deeper rabbet. Store on the back edge. To remove, lift and pull.
The 2xs would protect the rails from being bumped.
So going back to the FastCap hangers. Mount them with the round
spinning closure on bottom. Slide the track rubber edge up into the
opposite captured end and set it on the flat of the other end and spin
the round keeper.
But then it drops down when the wheel turns, instead of sitting on the
hook until you can get the other end unloosed. It would have been
trivial to make them right, with a wider hook for the back side of the
rail.
They can be used vertically (and I might do that) but I have a 108"
rail that will be a bit of problem. It would fit between the joists
which is where it is now but in its box.
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughRather than bore you with a bunch of word descriptions. I just took a bunch of pictures. I have at least one of every type storage imaginable. Maybe this will inspire. :-)
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
On 1/3/2022 12:10 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:Just picked up a pair of these magnets for a project...I do not recommend allowing 2 of them to meet "face-to-face" outside of their plastic cages...
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:06:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 1/3/2022 10:40 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:56:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >>>
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >>>>>
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through >>>>>>> everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets. >>>>>>> Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There >>>>>>> seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low >>>>>>> density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really >>>>>>> designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I >>>>>> have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my >>>>>> work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with
a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >>>>>> organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been >>>>>> using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and
find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized >>>>>> drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >>>>>> fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against >>>>> the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can >>>>> get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My >>>>> track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a >>>> drawer. ;~)
The advantage is that you can easily see when tool has gone walkabout, >>> hopefully before it's needed.
As you said, anything below the first layer (of tools) is lost. ;-)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always >>>> do when you are using them.
You wouldn't want anything with an edge touching anything hard. That
includes rules.
Yeah well, did you see the post where I mentioned that my shop did not
resemble a museum? If I was a metal worker and working with extreme
tolerances unlike wood working I would be more careful. My rules,
Bridge City, are stacked on top of each other on a magnetic bar. The
rare case where I store them outside a drawer. No issues in 20+ years.
I'm not so worried about accuracy, rather nicks in the edge. I haveI never use the rules to draw lines so much as measure. If they get
both the aluminum and stainless Woodpeckers rules. I didn't really
like the aluminum rules so bought the stainless ones when they came
out. Magnets aren't a useful solution.
nicked, no problem. I seldom draw lines at all except short ones to
mark cut or drill locations.
When you say they're stacked on top of each other, magnets between orI use this. https://www.harborfreight.com/18-in-magnetic-tool-holder-60433.html
a rare-earth magnet then the rules stacked on it?
This is on the side of my tall stack of drawers with the fan on top. I
have this screwed to the side of the unit with 6 or so SS rules and my
Wera screwdrivers. Then my work bench is stored away, next to the
drawer unit, it is a tight spot to reach to get the rules, in or out.
So they often get stacked on top of each other.
In the same vein, have you looked at the FastCap guide-rail mounting
brackets? I thought they were a really good idea but on closer
inspection, the rails are stored on their business edge.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/track-rack-fastcap
Yes I saw those when they first came out. It seems a lot, well most of
the FastCap products are for those that don't think ahead as to how
some of the products work. I don't even like their fancy glue bottles.
I had them, the big and small, and ended up tossing them.
I simply hang mine by the holes on the ends. I think that is what the
Instead, I was thinking about a couple of rabbeted 2xs, the upper with >>> a deeper rabbet. Store on the back edge. To remove, lift and pull.
The 2xs would protect the rails from being bumped.
holes are for. ;~)
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:I noticed you have your drop cord neatly on a board.
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughRather than bore you with a bunch of word descriptions. I just took a bunch of pictures. I have at least one of every type storage imaginable. Maybe this will inspire. :-)
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gJ058xyJtsfdt
Bob
On 1/3/2022 2:34 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughRather than bore you with a bunch of word descriptions. I just took a bunch of pictures. I have at least one of every type storage imaginable. Maybe this will inspire. :-)
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gJ058xyJtsfdtI noticed you have your drop cord neatly on a board.
Bob
I wrap mine in my hand, and then hang them on a rod that sticks out form
the wall, I find this more convenient than a device to wrap them on then hang the device.
My drop cords are principally used in the yard for electric tools. To
have them wrapped on a device only make the use more complex. Once I am done, I first have to find the device which has run a way from the area
I ended up working, and then wrap the cord.
I have one short 10' cord that I leave hanging on the table saw. It is
used when the saw is rolled to far from a wall receptacle.
On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 2:09:00 PM UTC-6, keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net wrote:when I do, I uncoil what I need. It only comes off completely at Christmas for outdoor lighting.
On 1/3/2022 2:34 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >>>> I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughI noticed you have your drop cord neatly on a board.
everything and trying to organize things better.Rather than bore you with a bunch of word descriptions. I just took a bunch of pictures. I have at least one of every type storage imaginable. Maybe this will inspire. :-)
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gJ058xyJtsfdt
Bob
I wrap mine in my hand, and then hang them on a rod that sticks out form
the wall, I find this more convenient than a device to wrap them on then
hang the device.
My drop cords are principally used in the yard for electric tools. To
have them wrapped on a device only make the use more complex. Once I am
done, I first have to find the device which has run a way from the area
I ended up working, and then wrap the cord.
I have one short 10' cord that I leave hanging on the table saw. It is
used when the saw is rolled to far from a wall receptacle.
I agree with you, for the most part. However that cord in the picture is 100 feet long. I found it to be totall unmanageble being wrapped by hand. If I ever dropped it while still coiled, it would end up being a tangled mess. I rarely use the cord but
BobUnderstand. Mine or only 50' long. Every once and a while I in need
On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 2:10:11 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:I've got one of those old "laterals" as well - holds my circular saws
On 1/3/2022 12:10 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:Just picked up a pair of these magnets for a project...I do not recommend allowing 2 of them to meet "face-to-face" outside of their plastic cages...
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:06:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:I never use the rules to draw lines so much as measure. If they get
On 1/3/2022 10:40 AM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:56:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >> >>>
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >> >>>>>
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low >> >>>>>>> density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I
have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my >> >>>>>> work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with
a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >> >>>>>> organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been
using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and
find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized
drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and
fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against
the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can >> >>>>> get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My >> >>>>> track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a >> >>>> drawer. ;~)
The advantage is that you can easily see when tool has gone walkabout, >> >>> hopefully before it's needed.
As you said, anything below the first layer (of tools) is lost. ;-)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always >> >>>> do when you are using them.
You wouldn't want anything with an edge touching anything hard. That
includes rules.
Yeah well, did you see the post where I mentioned that my shop did not
resemble a museum? If I was a metal worker and working with extreme
tolerances unlike wood working I would be more careful. My rules,
Bridge City, are stacked on top of each other on a magnetic bar. The
rare case where I store them outside a drawer. No issues in 20+ years.
I'm not so worried about accuracy, rather nicks in the edge. I have
both the aluminum and stainless Woodpeckers rules. I didn't really
like the aluminum rules so bought the stainless ones when they came
out. Magnets aren't a useful solution.
nicked, no problem. I seldom draw lines at all except short ones to
mark cut or drill locations.
I use this.
When you say they're stacked on top of each other, magnets between or
a rare-earth magnet then the rules stacked on it?
https://www.harborfreight.com/18-in-magnetic-tool-holder-60433.html
This is on the side of my tall stack of drawers with the fan on top. I
have this screwed to the side of the unit with 6 or so SS rules and my
Wera screwdrivers. Then my work bench is stored away, next to the
drawer unit, it is a tight spot to reach to get the rules, in or out.
So they often get stacked on top of each other.
In the same vein, have you looked at the FastCap guide-rail mounting
brackets? I thought they were a really good idea but on closer
inspection, the rails are stored on their business edge.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/track-rack-fastcap
Yes I saw those when they first came out. It seems a lot, well most of
the FastCap products are for those that don't think ahead as to how
some of the products work. I don't even like their fancy glue bottles.
I had them, the big and small, and ended up tossing them.
I simply hang mine by the holes on the ends. I think that is what the
Instead, I was thinking about a couple of rabbeted 2xs, the upper with >> >>> a deeper rabbet. Store on the back edge. To remove, lift and pull.
The 2xs would protect the rails from being bumped.
holes are for. ;~)
DAMHIK...
As far as tool storage, I picked up a 4' long 4 drawer lateral filing cabinet and put casters on the bottom...Drawers are deep enough to cause some integration of contents, but also allow for some bigger items...Price sure was right on CL...
On 12/31/2021 7:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
I have about 50 (48 maybe?) feet of pegboard down the back wall of my
shop. It was easy at first. They perfectly spanned the horizontal
purlins, and where above work bench height. I have another 24 feet of >pegboard on the back of a tall shelf unit, and another 22 feet along
another wall. At first all that pegboard was awesome. For the first
several years I kept things organized with space in between, but now I
have a hard time finding things on the pegboard. Its mostly full and in
some area I have to take off three things to get to the thing I need. I >think shelves with pins might have been better for most of it.
My goal now is to build a single monolithic steel top work bench 55 ish
feet long down the back wall of my shop with floor top drawers and get
all the tools off the pegboards.. I also want to get all my tool out of
the three large rollaway tool boxes that are always in the way on the
shop floor. I'll keep a couple tool carts to put tools on when I am
working on something away from the bench, and then roll the cart back to
the bench when I am done.
I'll get rid of the piece meal of work benchs and tables in the back
shop. One or two steel top benched will go outside, and the others will
go to new homes.
On 1/3/2022 12:10 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:06:32 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 1/3/2022 10:40 AM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:56:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >>>>
On 1/1/2022 1:19 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 11:51:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote: >>>>>>
On 12/31/2021 8:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through >>>>>>>> everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets. >>>>>>>> Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>>>>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There >>>>>>>> seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low >>>>>>>> density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>>>>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really >>>>>>>> designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
IMHO storing tools on peg board is a waste of valuable storage room. I >>>>>>> have 2 large tool chests. I have 2 smaller chests under my TS and my >>>>>>> work bench and lastly I have a tower stack of drawers about 5' tall with
a fan on top. Drawers can lose things but if you have enough you can >>>>>>> organize by types of tools and what they are used for. I have been >>>>>>> using this method for 30+ years and I can pretty much go to a drawer and
find what I am looking for. All of the above have 40 multi sized >>>>>>> drawers. I have a load of small drawers and those are for hardware and >>>>>>> fasteners.
Sure, I'd thought about drawers and Kaizen foam - "a place for
everything...". My "bench" is on wheels so I can push it up against >>>>>> the wall to get more space around my table saw or move it out so I can >>>>>> get on all sides of the work pieces. This helps with tracks, etc. My >>>>>> track saw is probably the most used tool I own.
Ah! Kaizen foam another waste of space, IMHO. It's like peg board in a >>>>> drawer. ;~)
The advantage is that you can easily see when tool has gone walkabout, >>>> hopefully before it's needed.
As you said, anything below the first layer (of tools) is lost. ;-)
This is no issue with tools that actually touch each other, they always >>>>> do when you are using them.
You wouldn't want anything with an edge touching anything hard. That
includes rules.
Yeah well, did you see the post where I mentioned that my shop did not
resemble a museum? If I was a metal worker and working with extreme
tolerances unlike wood working I would be more careful. My rules,
Bridge City, are stacked on top of each other on a magnetic bar. The
rare case where I store them outside a drawer. No issues in 20+ years.
I'm not so worried about accuracy, rather nicks in the edge. I have
both the aluminum and stainless Woodpeckers rules. I didn't really
like the aluminum rules so bought the stainless ones when they came
out. Magnets aren't a useful solution.
I never use the rules to draw lines so much as measure. If they get
nicked, no problem. I seldom draw lines at all except short ones to
mark cut or drill locations.
When you say they're stacked on top of each other, magnets between or
a rare-earth magnet then the rules stacked on it?
I use this. >https://www.harborfreight.com/18-in-magnetic-tool-holder-60433.html
This is on the side of my tall stack of drawers with the fan on top. I
have this screwed to the side of the unit with 6 or so SS rules and my
Wera screwdrivers. Then my work bench is stored away, next to the
drawer unit, it is a tight spot to reach to get the rules, in or out.
So they often get stacked on top of each other.
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughRather than bore you with a bunch of word descriptions. I just took a bunch of pictures. I have at least one of every type storage imaginable. Maybe this will inspire. :-)
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gJ058xyJtsfdt
On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 2:09:00 PM UTC-6, keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net wrote:when I do, I uncoil what I need. It only comes off completely at Christmas for outdoor lighting.
On 1/3/2022 2:34 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughI noticed you have your drop cord neatly on a board.
everything and trying to organize things better.Rather than bore you with a bunch of word descriptions. I just took a bunch of pictures. I have at least one of every type storage imaginable. Maybe this will inspire. :-)
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gJ058xyJtsfdt
Bob
I wrap mine in my hand, and then hang them on a rod that sticks out form
the wall, I find this more convenient than a device to wrap them on then
hang the device.
My drop cords are principally used in the yard for electric tools. To
have them wrapped on a device only make the use more complex. Once I am
done, I first have to find the device which has run a way from the area
I ended up working, and then wrap the cord.
I have one short 10' cord that I leave hanging on the table saw. It is
used when the saw is rolled to far from a wall receptacle.
I agree with you, for the most part. However that cord in the picture is 100 feet long. I found it to be totall unmanageble being wrapped by hand. If I ever dropped it while still coiled, it would end up being a tangled mess. I rarely use the cord but
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
krw@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold >>>>the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to >>>>protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever >>>>works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool >>>gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which >>look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of >cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories" >>(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to >>think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just >wondering how others make their place(s).
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:33:18 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 12/31/2021 7:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
I have about 50 (48 maybe?) feet of pegboard down the back wall of my
shop. It was easy at first. They perfectly spanned the horizontal
purlins, and where above work bench height. I have another 24 feet of
pegboard on the back of a tall shelf unit, and another 22 feet along
another wall. At first all that pegboard was awesome. For the first
several years I kept things organized with space in between, but now I
have a hard time finding things on the pegboard. Its mostly full and in
some area I have to take off three things to get to the thing I need. I
think shelves with pins might have been better for most of it.
You sound like me. More tools than SWMBO wishes, anyway.
My goal now is to build a single monolithic steel top work bench 55 ish
feet long down the back wall of my shop with floor top drawers and get
all the tools off the pegboards.. I also want to get all my tool out of
the three large rollaway tool boxes that are always in the way on the
shop floor. I'll keep a couple tool carts to put tools on when I am
working on something away from the bench, and then roll the cart back to
the bench when I am done.
Monolithic? As in one sheet of steel?
I'll get rid of the piece meal of work benchs and tables in the back
shop. One or two steel top benched will go outside, and the others will
go to new homes.
I'm giving stuff away, as well. I gave my Craftsman RAS and 6"
jointer to a friend. He cleaned up the jointer and it looks better
than new. He probably hasn't done anything with the RAS yet but I'm
rid of it.
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:33:18 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
I'll get rid of the piece meal of work benchs and tables in the back
shop. One or two steel top benched will go outside, and the others will
go to new homes.
I'm giving stuff away, as well. I gave my Craftsman RAS and 6"
jointer to a friend. He cleaned up the jointer and it looks better
than new. He probably hasn't done anything with the RAS yet but I'm
rid of it.
krw@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
krw@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in >>>rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold >>>>>the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two >>>>>batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to >>>>>protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever >>>>>works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases >>>>looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and >>>>thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool >>>>gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which >>>look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the >>>Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of >>cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I >>guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and >>battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories" >>>(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to >>>think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a >>>half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just >>wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
On 1/3/2022 8:09 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:33:18 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 12/31/2021 7:06 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >>>> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >>>> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
I have about 50 (48 maybe?) feet of pegboard down the back wall of my
shop. It was easy at first. They perfectly spanned the horizontal
purlins, and where above work bench height. I have another 24 feet of
pegboard on the back of a tall shelf unit, and another 22 feet along
another wall. At first all that pegboard was awesome. For the first
several years I kept things organized with space in between, but now I
have a hard time finding things on the pegboard. Its mostly full and in >>> some area I have to take off three things to get to the thing I need. I >>> think shelves with pins might have been better for most of it.
You sound like me. More tools than SWMBO wishes, anyway.
*** I was a contractor for 23 years and I have a lot of stuff left from
that I never use now. Hate to get rd of it because everybody wants
something for nothing. Costs me more in time than the average Internet >sleuth will pay for it. When I quit contracting I threw tens of
thousands of dollars worth of electronics in the dumpster just to get it
out of my shop because it was cheaper to throw it away than to give it
away. People want you to work way to hard to sell them something at a
huge discount. Even free is a pain in the ass. Half the time somebody
says they want something and then asks you to hold/store it for them. >Assholes. I wanted it the hell out of my shop. Not to be obligated to
some freeloader for the rest of my life. Anyway, I have tools (and >materials) for lots of different stuff. Now I am a machinist, part time >fabricator, and once in a great while hobby wood worker.
My goal now is to build a single monolithic steel top work bench 55 ish
feet long down the back wall of my shop with floor top drawers and get
all the tools off the pegboards.. I also want to get all my tool out of >>> the three large rollaway tool boxes that are always in the way on the
shop floor. I'll keep a couple tool carts to put tools on when I am
working on something away from the bench, and then roll the cart back to >>> the bench when I am done.
Monolithic? As in one sheet of steel?
*** Welded and ground every 8 feet. I am considering making it in 8
foot sections that slide and pin together, but I really like the one top >idea. One top will gain me a full bank of drawers over its length.
Sectional will make it easier to sell when my wife pulls by dead carcass
out of a machine.
I'll get rid of the piece meal of work benchs and tables in the back
shop. One or two steel top benched will go outside, and the others will >>> go to new homes.
I'm giving stuff away, as well. I gave my Craftsman RAS and 6"
jointer to a friend. He cleaned up the jointer and it looks better
than new. He probably hasn't done anything with the RAS yet but I'm
rid of it.
*** I've got a Delta RAS nobody seems to want for more than my time to
deal with them. Every time I'm about ready to scrap it out for parts
just to get it out of my way though I wind up using it for something.
Its hardly got any time on it. Only reason I have worn out any blades
is because it sometimes got used to cut aluminum bar stock. Not so much
now that I have a couple horizontal band saws to do that.
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
krw@notreal.com on Fri, 31 Dec 2021 21:06:52 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through >>>everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low >>>density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal.
All true. OTOH, shallow drawers can hold tool "sets". Wrenches >>here, drill stuff there, and so forth. Chisels, carving tools.
Wrenches work. I'd rather have chisels separated more and where
they're visible. I saw an interesting holder where they were stored
pointy end up. The handles were in a cup made with a forstner bit and
the blade stuck to a rare-earth magnet. Interesting but I dunno.
I keep my bits in the index box they come in. I want to know the
expensive bits from the expendables (throw-aways). There are a lot of
drill accessories that aren't so small.
Pegboard is one of those "beats nothing" situations. Getting it
laid out is always the big PITA, same goes for tool cabinets, tool
chests, the shop in general.
Yeah but the first step is how to store them. The main problem with
pegboard is the hooks falling off the board when hanging the tool. My
plan was the Wall Control boards but the matching, proprietary, hooks
are quite expensive. THey'll take standard hooks but the boards are
thin (steel) and it seems it would make the falling hook problem
worse.
French Cleat Mania - harumph! I learned about using the
rug/linoleum edge pieces (covers the edge going from rug to floor) as >>'cleats' working in a shop which installed whiteboard Enameled sheet
steel over 5/8 OSB. You did not want those falling on a kid. I've
used them to hang a tool cabinet on several walls.
I have nothing against cletes. I plan to hang the wall cabinets on
cletes but a wall of them, floor to ceiling to hang individual tools?
I favor tool bags / rolls, they pack away better, take up less
space. Good for corralling spare batteries, accessories, and the like
for power tools - or even some hand tools. I have the auger bits for
the brace in a tool roll with the braces in a bag.
IME, tools always spill out of the top of the rolls.
My situation is that I had to down size, compact is the main
issue. Also, getting the various tools in "one spot" to answer the >>question "I know I have one (two? three?) but where is it / are they?"
Been there and, in reality, that's my motivation now. I'm now retired >(official yesterday) so have some time. ;-)
As much as I'd like a "wall o' tools", with shelves, holders etc,
and all the tools right where I can reach them ... not unless I won
the lottery tonight. Oops forgot to by a ticket. Nuts.
I have the space but not necessarily enough where I want it.
Ideas?
Couple Bossims, regardless of what system you settle on:
If you haven't got time to put it away, what makes you think you
will have time to look for it?
Every place with its thing, every thing with its place.
Exactly. I have cabinets with drawers full of tools but woodworking
tools are mixed in (separate drawers) with construction and even
concrete chisels and such.
--
Workspaces are very personal things, what tools are you most
likely to need most frequently should be easily accessible. On a hook,
set of pegs, "shelf", hanging from a string / pulley, whatever. "Works
for me" is sufficient reason. So is "It made sense at the time." B-)
;-)
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 12:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Daviswhen I do, I uncoil what I need. It only comes off completely at Christmas for outdoor lighting.
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 2:09:00 PM UTC-6, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
On 1/3/2022 2:34 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:I noticed you have your drop cord neatly on a board.
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughRather than bore you with a bunch of word descriptions. I just took a bunch of pictures. I have at least one of every type storage imaginable. Maybe this will inspire. :-)
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >> >> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >> >> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gJ058xyJtsfdt
Bob
I wrap mine in my hand, and then hang them on a rod that sticks out form >> the wall, I find this more convenient than a device to wrap them on then >> hang the device.
My drop cords are principally used in the yard for electric tools. To
have them wrapped on a device only make the use more complex. Once I am >> done, I first have to find the device which has run a way from the area >> I ended up working, and then wrap the cord.
I have one short 10' cord that I leave hanging on the table saw. It is
used when the saw is rolled to far from a wall receptacle.
I agree with you, for the most part. However that cord in the picture is 100 feet long. I found it to be totall unmanageble being wrapped by hand. If I ever dropped it while still coiled, it would end up being a tangled mess. I rarely use the cord but
I find that laying them out straight, then coiling them up allowing
the opposite end to turn gets rid of the twist and mess if a loop is dropped.
I have tens of extension cords all stretched out in the yard now. I
do use ladders (for the lack of a better description) and spools to
put them away because they won't be used for another year.
On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 10:23:19 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:but when I do, I uncoil what I need. It only comes off completely at Christmas for outdoor lighting.
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 12:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 2:09:00 PM UTC-6, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
On 1/3/2022 2:34 PM, Bob Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:I noticed you have your drop cord neatly on a board.
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughRather than bore you with a bunch of word descriptions. I just took a bunch of pictures. I have at least one of every type storage imaginable. Maybe this will inspire. :-)
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools >> >> >> go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam >> >> >> on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gJ058xyJtsfdt
Bob
I wrap mine in my hand, and then hang them on a rod that sticks out form >> >> the wall, I find this more convenient than a device to wrap them on then >> >> hang the device.
My drop cords are principally used in the yard for electric tools. To
have them wrapped on a device only make the use more complex. Once I am >> >> done, I first have to find the device which has run a way from the area >> >> I ended up working, and then wrap the cord.
I have one short 10' cord that I leave hanging on the table saw. It is
used when the saw is rolled to far from a wall receptacle.
I agree with you, for the most part. However that cord in the picture is 100 feet long. I found it to be totall unmanageble being wrapped by hand. If I ever dropped it while still coiled, it would end up being a tangled mess. I rarely use the cord
I find that laying them out straight, then coiling them up allowing
the opposite end to turn gets rid of the twist and mess if a loop is
dropped.
I have tens of extension cords all stretched out in the yard now. I
do use ladders (for the lack of a better description) and spools to
put them away because they won't be used for another year.
I use the over-under method shown below, although I use a bigger loop.
I start with the plug end in my left hand. After the cord is coiled, I hang it neatly on a
hook. When it's time to use it, I hold the plug end in my left hand and throw the rest
of the cord straight out in front of me. No knots, no tangles, no twists.
It's how the audio guys do it and it works for extension cords just as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r97maG3VXzA
It feels a little awkward at first, but after a while it becomes second nature.
Knowing which end you started the coil with and holding that same end when >you throw the cord is key. That's why I always start with the plug.
Most of my cords have Velcro cord straps "permanently" attached to keep the >coil neat and easy to handle/move around.
https://www.amazon.com/VELCRO-Brand-Reusable-Fastening-Organizing/dp/B001E1Y5O6
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
krw@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich >>><phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
krw@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in >>>>rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold >>>>>>the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two >>>>>>batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to >>>>>>protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever >>>>>>works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases >>>>>looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and >>>>>thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten >>>>>around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool >>>>>gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which >>>>look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are >>>>useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the >>>>Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of >>>cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I >>>guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and >>>battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases >>>>on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories" >>>>(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in >>>>the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to >>>>think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a >>>>half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for >>>>this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just >>>wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do >>you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
Wow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else.
I'd hoped for some insight--
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of >cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 11:34:41 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going throughRather than bore you with a bunch of word descriptions. I just took a bunch of pictures. I have at least one of every type storage imaginable. Maybe this will inspire. :-)
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gJ058xyJtsfdtLooks like the ad hoc storage option
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed in >rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich >><ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in >>>rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold >>>>>the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two >>>>>batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to >>>>>protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever >>>>>works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases >>>>looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and >>>>thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten >>>>around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool >>>>gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which >>>look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are >>>useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the >>>Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of >>cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I >>guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags >>aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and >>battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories" >>>(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in >>>the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to >>>think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I >>>have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a >>>half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for >>>this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just >>wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What doWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to move stuff
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I frequently
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to move stuff
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I frequently
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davisslap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to move stuff
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold >> >>>>>the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to >> >>>>>protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool >> >>>>gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of >> >>cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I >> >>guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories" >> >>>(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in >> >>>the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a >> >>>half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I frequently
Now there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard
over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that?
There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind
it. The lower cleats would get in the way.
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never
have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets
with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the
YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools.
I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that.
On Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:30:34 GMT, Puckdropper <email@example.com>
wrote:
I've found these guys to be really nice for the bench top: >>http://puckdroppersplace.us/railroad/images/forsale/small_tool_holder_s
m. jpg Screwdrivers of various sizes go in the holes and pliers and
other tools go in the slots.
Those look handy. Do you make them or buy them? And if buy, where?
krw@notreal.com wrote in news:u8dvsgh66lfd1pj5b4fegumomr3uv7fqfj@4ax.com:
I was wondering what people do to store tools. I'm going through
everything and trying to organize things better.
I'd been considering pegboard, drawers, and overhead cabinets.
Watching YouTube (I know, I know), the phrase "drawers are where tools
go to die" seems to be prevalent. Pegboards can be a PITA. There
seems to be a French cleat mania but they seem to have a pretty low
density of tools (large wall space needed). I've also seen Kaizen foam
on walls but it would seem to be hard to clean and it's really
designed to be horizontal. Ideas?
The tools that only go to certain tools as much as possible stay near the >tool. Preferably on the tool itself but out of the way.
Fasteners go into drawer organizers. Just buy the big ones and if you
need to store multiple sizes in a drawer make it really easy to tell by
eye like 1/2", 1", and 1 1/2". That's also where you can put your little >things like plug adapters and hose washers.
Things like plumbing pipe connectors and electrical fittings can go into >plastic "shoe box" size boxes and put up on a shelf. Label them. It's
up to you if you want to put 3/4" PVC elbows with 3/4" PVC T's or put all
the elbows together and all the T's together. (I prefer to keep the
sizes together, I usually am only working on one size pipe.)
Tackle boxes can be ideal for "kitting" where you put related tools
together in one box. Kits are IMO better for once in a while tasks, not >everyday jobs.
When it comes to drawers, the most important thing to remember is that >anything over 1 layer is lost. I store my sockets and wrenches in a
drawer, it works great. I have long stopped storing my screwdrivers in
the drawer, it worked terribly.
Speaking of socket holders... A lot of holders seem to make the hole for
the socket fit snugly. You don't have to--3/4" hole will fit 4-5 sizes
of sockets with acceptable slop and if you lose and replace the socket
the new one will fit.
I've found these guys to be really nice for the bench top:
http://puckdroppersplace.us/railroad/images/forsale/small_tool_holder_sm.
jpg
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:45:19 AM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to move stuff
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold >> >> >>>>>the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to >> >> >>>>>protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool >> >> >>>>gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of >> >> >>cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I >> >> >>guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories" >> >> >>>(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in >> >> >>>the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a >> >> >>>half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I frequently
to "drop on" to a cleat and fit snugly. My example is a small piece but I've used this approach for hanging a full sheet of 1/4" pegboard. For that I attached it with four 4' wide cleats. I attached the top one first and hung the pegboard. Then I slidNow there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard
over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that?
There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind
it. The lower cleats would get in the way.
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never
have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets
with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the
YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools.
I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that.
Pictures: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGKQPy6GcwCQt
You have to get very creative to get the most out of cleats and pegboard. As always, if it takes a lot of words to describe, I just make more pictures. There are three pictures in this group that show the use of wood spacer strips to allow a pegboard
I tend to make custom shelves and mounts for various things to hang on the cleats. The pictures show the examples of everything that I mounted with cleats. Its really handy to be able to move things around to take maximum advantage of the wall space.
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 12:57:40 -0800 (PST), Bob Davisslap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to move stuff
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:45:19 AM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever >> >> >>>>>works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases >> >> >>>>looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and >> >> >>>>thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten >> >> >>>>around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which >> >> >>>look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep >> >> >>>the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags >> >> >>aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and >> >> >>battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases >> >> >>>on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works >> >> >>>well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to >> >> >>>think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I >> >> >>>have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for >> >> >>>this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just >> >> >>wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area. >> >> >Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the >> >> above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall >> >> of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of >> >> cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I frequently
to "drop on" to a cleat and fit snugly. My example is a small piece but I've used this approach for hanging a full sheet of 1/4" pegboard. For that I attached it with four 4' wide cleats. I attached the top one first and hung the pegboard. Then I slidNow there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard
over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that?
There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind
it. The lower cleats would get in the way.
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never
have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets
with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the
YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools.
I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that.
Pictures: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGKQPy6GcwCQt
You have to get very creative to get the most out of cleats and pegboard. As always, if it takes a lot of words to describe, I just make more pictures. There are three pictures in this group that show the use of wood spacer strips to allow a pegboard
Now there is an idea I hadn't thought of. That makes cleats a more attractive alternative. No commitment. Push the decision down the
road.
I tend to make custom shelves and mounts for various things to hang on the cleats. The pictures show the examples of everything that I mounted with cleats. Its really handy to be able to move things around to take maximum advantage of the wall space.That looks like a good argument for cleats. Along with the pegboard,
I may go that way, particularly since I really don't know how things
should be organized yet.
If you decide to do pegboard, PLEASE use Triton Durahook products for hooks and racks. Don't wince at the cost. All other pegboard hook products are junk by comparison. These are securely attached by screws that thread into the pegboard hole. Youcan easily hang a battery powered tool on one hook and it will not shake, rattle, wiggle, or give way. If you need to move them, just unscrew and screw it into another hole.
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:53:45 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:frequently slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 12:57:40 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:45:19 AM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever >> >> >> >>>>>works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases >> >> >> >>>>looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and >> >> >> >>>>thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten >> >> >> >>>>around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which >> >> >> >>>look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep >> >> >> >>>the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags >> >> >> >>aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and >> >> >> >>battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases >> >> >> >>>on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works >> >> >> >>>well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to >> >> >> >>>think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I >> >> >> >>>have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for >> >> >> >>>this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just >> >> >> >>wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area. >> >> >> >Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the >> >> >> above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall >> >> >> of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of >> >> >> cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I
to "drop on" to a cleat and fit snugly. My example is a small piece but I've used this approach for hanging a full sheet of 1/4" pegboard. For that I attached it with four 4' wide cleats. I attached the top one first and hung the pegboard. Then I slidNow there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard
over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that?
There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind
it. The lower cleats would get in the way.
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never
have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets
with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the
YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools.
I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that.
Pictures: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGKQPy6GcwCQt
You have to get very creative to get the most out of cleats and pegboard. As always, if it takes a lot of words to describe, I just make more pictures. There are three pictures in this group that show the use of wood spacer strips to allow a pegboard
can easily hang a battery powered tool on one hook and it will not shake, rattle, wiggle, or give way. If you need to move them, just unscrew and screw it into another hole.Now there is an idea I hadn't thought of. That makes cleats a more
attractive alternative. No commitment. Push the decision down the
road.
I tend to make custom shelves and mounts for various things to hang on the cleats. The pictures show the examples of everything that I mounted with cleats. Its really handy to be able to move things around to take maximum advantage of the wall space.That looks like a good argument for cleats. Along with the pegboard,
I may go that way, particularly since I really don't know how things
should be organized yet.
If you decide to do pegboard, PLEASE use Triton Durahook products for hooks and racks. Don't wince at the cost. All other pegboard hook products are junk by comparison. These are securely attached by screws that thread into the pegboard hole. You
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:20:42 -0800 (PST), Bob Davisfrequently slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:53:45 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 12:57:40 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:45:19 AM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a >> >> >> bench.
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are >> >> >> >>>useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do >> >> >> >you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage >> >> >> >space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to >> >> >> >move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given >> >> >> but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to >> >> >> where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I >> >> >> really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight >> >> >> into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I
pegboard to "drop on" to a cleat and fit snugly. My example is a small piece but I've used this approach for hanging a full sheet of 1/4" pegboard. For that I attached it with four 4' wide cleats. I attached the top one first and hung the pegboard. ThenNow there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard >> >> over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that?
There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind
it. The lower cleats would get in the way.
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never >> >> have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets >> >> with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the
YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools. >> >> I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that.
Pictures: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGKQPy6GcwCQt
You have to get very creative to get the most out of cleats and pegboard. As always, if it takes a lot of words to describe, I just make more pictures. There are three pictures in this group that show the use of wood spacer strips to allow a
space.Now there is an idea I hadn't thought of. That makes cleats a more
attractive alternative. No commitment. Push the decision down the
road.
I tend to make custom shelves and mounts for various things to hang on the cleats. The pictures show the examples of everything that I mounted with cleats. Its really handy to be able to move things around to take maximum advantage of the wall
easily hang a battery powered tool on one hook and it will not shake, rattle, wiggle, or give way. If you need to move them, just unscrew and screw it into another hole.That looks like a good argument for cleats. Along with the pegboard,
I may go that way, particularly since I really don't know how things
should be organized yet.
If you decide to do pegboard, PLEASE use Triton Durahook products for hooks and racks. Don't wince at the cost. All other pegboard hook products are junk by comparison. These are securely attached by screws that thread into the pegboard hole. You can
I'll look into them but I plan on using steel pegboard. I have a pile
of HDF but I really don't like it.
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:frequently slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:20:42 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:53:45 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 12:57:40 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:45:19 AM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a >> >> >> bench.
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in >> >> >> >>>rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two >> >> >> >>>>>batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are >> >> >> >>>useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the >> >> >> >>>Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to >> >> >> where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I
pegboard to "drop on" to a cleat and fit snugly. My example is a small piece but I've used this approach for hanging a full sheet of 1/4" pegboard. For that I attached it with four 4' wide cleats. I attached the top one first and hung the pegboard. ThenNow there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard >> >> over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that? >> >> There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind >> >> it. The lower cleats would get in the way.
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never
have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets >> >> with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the
YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools.
I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that.
Pictures: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGKQPy6GcwCQt
You have to get very creative to get the most out of cleats and pegboard. As always, if it takes a lot of words to describe, I just make more pictures. There are three pictures in this group that show the use of wood spacer strips to allow a
space.Now there is an idea I hadn't thought of. That makes cleats a more
attractive alternative. No commitment. Push the decision down the
road.
I tend to make custom shelves and mounts for various things to hang on the cleats. The pictures show the examples of everything that I mounted with cleats. Its really handy to be able to move things around to take maximum advantage of the wall
can easily hang a battery powered tool on one hook and it will not shake, rattle, wiggle, or give way. If you need to move them, just unscrew and screw it into another hole.That looks like a good argument for cleats. Along with the pegboard,
I may go that way, particularly since I really don't know how things
should be organized yet.
If you decide to do pegboard, PLEASE use Triton Durahook products for hooks and racks. Don't wince at the cost. All other pegboard hook products are junk by comparison. These are securely attached by screws that thread into the pegboard hole. You
full sized sheets that my neighbor pulled down from his garage and threw in the trash.I'll look into them but I plan on using steel pegboard. I have a pileWhat don't you like about HDF? What advantage do you see in using steel? I considered steel at some point, but found the Triton fasteners worked so well in HDF that I abandoned the steel idea. As a matter of fact, all my pegboard came from a pile of
of HDF but I really don't like it.
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:frequently slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:20:42 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:53:45 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 12:57:40 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:45:19 AM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a >> >> >> >> bench.
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two
batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are >> >> >> >> >>>useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the
Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved.
Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do >> >> >> >> >you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage >> >> >> >> >space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to >> >> >> >> >move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given >> >> >> >> but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to >> >> >> >> where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I >> >> >> >> really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight >> >> >> >> into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I
pegboard to "drop on" to a cleat and fit snugly. My example is a small piece but I've used this approach for hanging a full sheet of 1/4" pegboard. For that I attached it with four 4' wide cleats. I attached the top one first and hung the pegboard. ThenNow there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard >> >> >> over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that?
There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind
it. The lower cleats would get in the way.
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never >> >> >> have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets >> >> >> with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the
YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools. >> >> >> I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that.
Pictures: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGKQPy6GcwCQt
You have to get very creative to get the most out of cleats and pegboard. As always, if it takes a lot of words to describe, I just make more pictures. There are three pictures in this group that show the use of wood spacer strips to allow a
space.Now there is an idea I hadn't thought of. That makes cleats a more
attractive alternative. No commitment. Push the decision down the
road.
I tend to make custom shelves and mounts for various things to hang on the cleats. The pictures show the examples of everything that I mounted with cleats. Its really handy to be able to move things around to take maximum advantage of the wall
easily hang a battery powered tool on one hook and it will not shake, rattle, wiggle, or give way. If you need to move them, just unscrew and screw it into another hole.That looks like a good argument for cleats. Along with the pegboard,
I may go that way, particularly since I really don't know how things
should be organized yet.
If you decide to do pegboard, PLEASE use Triton Durahook products for hooks and racks. Don't wince at the cost. All other pegboard hook products are junk by comparison. These are securely attached by screws that thread into the pegboard hole. You can
full sized sheets that my neighbor pulled down from his garage and threw in the trash.I'll look into them but I plan on using steel pegboard. I have a pile
of HDF but I really don't like it.
What don't you like about HDF? What advantage do you see in using steel? I considered steel at some point, but found the Triton fasteners worked so well in HDF that I abandoned the steel idea. As a matter of fact, all my pegboard came from a pile of
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 09:00:39 -0800 (PST), Bob Davisfrequently slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:20:42 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:53:45 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 12:57:40 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:45:19 AM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in >> >> >> >> >>>rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two >> >> >> >> >>>>>batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the >> >> >> >> >>>Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack casesRight, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved. >> >> >> >> >>
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I
pegboard to "drop on" to a cleat and fit snugly. My example is a small piece but I've used this approach for hanging a full sheet of 1/4" pegboard. For that I attached it with four 4' wide cleats. I attached the top one first and hung the pegboard. ThenNow there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard
over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that? >> >> >> There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind >> >> >> it. The lower cleats would get in the way.
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never
have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets
with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the
YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools.
I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that.
Pictures: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGKQPy6GcwCQt
You have to get very creative to get the most out of cleats and pegboard. As always, if it takes a lot of words to describe, I just make more pictures. There are three pictures in this group that show the use of wood spacer strips to allow a
space.Now there is an idea I hadn't thought of. That makes cleats a more
attractive alternative. No commitment. Push the decision down the
road.
I tend to make custom shelves and mounts for various things to hang on the cleats. The pictures show the examples of everything that I mounted with cleats. Its really handy to be able to move things around to take maximum advantage of the wall
can easily hang a battery powered tool on one hook and it will not shake, rattle, wiggle, or give way. If you need to move them, just unscrew and screw it into another hole.That looks like a good argument for cleats. Along with the pegboard, >> >> I may go that way, particularly since I really don't know how things >> >> should be organized yet.
If you decide to do pegboard, PLEASE use Triton Durahook products for hooks and racks. Don't wince at the cost. All other pegboard hook products are junk by comparison. These are securely attached by screws that thread into the pegboard hole. You
full sized sheets that my neighbor pulled down from his garage and threw in the trash.I'll look into them but I plan on using steel pegboard. I have a pile
of HDF but I really don't like it.
What don't you like about HDF? What advantage do you see in using steel? I considered steel at some point, but found the Triton fasteners worked so well in HDF that I abandoned the steel idea. As a matter of fact, all my pegboard came from a pile of
Strength. It takes more support in the middle. Hooks can't be placed
where the supports are. I've always had hooks fall out. A RPITA.
It looks like hell after a few months.
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 3:41:52 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:frequently slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 09:00:39 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:20:42 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:53:45 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 12:57:40 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:45:19 AM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed inWow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a
rec.woodworking the following:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in >> >> >> >> >> >>>rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases
looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and
thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten
around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which
look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are
useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the >> >> >> >> >> >>>Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags
aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack casesRight, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works
well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to
think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved. >> >> >> >> >> >>
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do
you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage
space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to
move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area.
Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
bench.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given
but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to
where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I
really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight
into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I
pegboard to "drop on" to a cleat and fit snugly. My example is a small piece but I've used this approach for hanging a full sheet of 1/4" pegboard. For that I attached it with four 4' wide cleats. I attached the top one first and hung the pegboard. ThenNow there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard
over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that? >> >> >> >> There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind >> >> >> >> it. The lower cleats would get in the way.
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never
have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets
with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the
YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools.
I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that.
Pictures: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGKQPy6GcwCQt
You have to get very creative to get the most out of cleats and pegboard. As always, if it takes a lot of words to describe, I just make more pictures. There are three pictures in this group that show the use of wood spacer strips to allow a
space.Now there is an idea I hadn't thought of. That makes cleats a more
attractive alternative. No commitment. Push the decision down the
road.
I tend to make custom shelves and mounts for various things to hang on the cleats. The pictures show the examples of everything that I mounted with cleats. Its really handy to be able to move things around to take maximum advantage of the wall
can easily hang a battery powered tool on one hook and it will not shake, rattle, wiggle, or give way. If you need to move them, just unscrew and screw it into another hole.That looks like a good argument for cleats. Along with the pegboard, >> >> >> I may go that way, particularly since I really don't know how things >> >> >> should be organized yet.
If you decide to do pegboard, PLEASE use Triton Durahook products for hooks and racks. Don't wince at the cost. All other pegboard hook products are junk by comparison. These are securely attached by screws that thread into the pegboard hole. You
full sized sheets that my neighbor pulled down from his garage and threw in the trash.I'll look into them but I plan on using steel pegboard. I have a pile
of HDF but I really don't like it.
What don't you like about HDF? What advantage do you see in using steel? I considered steel at some point, but found the Triton fasteners worked so well in HDF that I abandoned the steel idea. As a matter of fact, all my pegboard came from a pile of
Strength. It takes more support in the middle. Hooks can't be placed
where the supports are. I've always had hooks fall out. A RPITA.
It looks like hell after a few months.
I just received an email for these. They look interesting.
https://www.mcfeelys.com/talon-straight-pegboard-hooks-1-3-8-in-12-pack.html
On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 3:41:52 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:frequently slap bags of parts for a project on a pegboard hook as I need it, so I won't lose it. Some things eventually get migrated from the pegboard to an organized and labeled parts cabinet or drawer. The cleats and pegboards give me the freedom to
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 09:00:39 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote: >>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 19:20:42 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:53:45 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 12:57:40 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:45:19 AM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 05:21:48 -0800 (PST), Bob Davis
<wrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-6, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:28:55 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sun, 02 Jan 2022 15:40:30 -0500 typed in >>>>>>>>>>> rec.woodworking the following:Wow! 24ft^2 for a shop sounds impossible. That sounds more like a >>>>>>>>>> bench.
On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 19:36:18 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
k...@notreal.com on Sat, 01 Jan 2022 13:53:55 -0500 typed in >>>>>>>>>>>>> rec.woodworking the following:
Depends on the tool. Reciprocating saw in a case that can also hold
the blades. Battery drill in a bag that can hold drill, two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> batteries, charger and a set of bits. Torque wrenches in a drawer to
protect them. Blades for the jigsaw hanging in pegboard. Whatever
works for your tools and your way of working.
I meant tools in the shop. I don't want to rummage through cases >>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking for the tool I want. In fact, I've gone through them and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thrown away all the blow-mold cases except a few (haven't gotten >>>>>>>>>>>>>> around to them). I've thrown away the canvas ones as soon as the tool
gets home.
IMHO, if you are rummaging through cases, you have too many which >>>>>>>>>>>>> look alike. Paint names on them. Most modern plastic cases are >>>>>>>>>>>>> useless, they hold just The Tool, and the two accessories the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Manufacturer knows you will ever need. (Which is one reason I keep
the tool bags. I can stuff em full)
All of a manufacturer's cases look alike. Most only invest in line of
cordless tools, all the cases look alike. Writing on them will work, I
guess, but as you say, the blow-mold cases are junk. The tool bags >>>>>>>>>>>> aren't much better. They're really only big enough for the tool and
battery, too.
I go to Harbor Freight and buy Yet Another One.
Cases also keep dust & stuff out/off the tool. I will stack cases >>>>>>>>>>>>> on a shelf or in a drawer (depending on size) with the "accessories"Right, a place for everything and everything in its place. I'm just
(blades, bits, routers, wrenches, tighteners and dohickeys) on or in
the same place. And label the shelf / drawer - masking tape works >>>>>>>>>>>>> well enough.
Over all, is having tools/accessories in A Spot. I do not want to >>>>>>>>>>>>> think how many hours I have shot trying to find the tools I know I
have to fix/make "this". Twenty minute project done in an hour and a
half whille I looked for the tools. Yeah, on plans and programs for
this summer was to get the shop organized. Instead I moved. >>>>>>>>>>>>
wondering how others make their place(s).
It is probably as idiosyncratic a discussion as anything. What do >>>>>>>>>>> you do most, where do you do it, have you the wall space / storage >>>>>>>>>>> space to have every tool where you can reach it with out having to >>>>>>>>>>> move anything. Like I said, I'm trying to cram into an 8 by 3 area. >>>>>>>>>>> Can't nail to the wall, its a rental.
Yes, it's a personal thing and certainly depends on the space given >>>>>>>>>> but too much space can be a problem too. Tools should be close to >>>>>>>>>> where they're going to be used, hopefully most in reach. Assuming the
above, storage options are limited. My original questions, which I >>>>>>>>>> really wanted to back into was whether people actually used the "wall
of cleats" pegboard, or something else. I'd hoped for some insight >>>>>>>>>> into the "something else". The YouTube videos are wall to wall wall of
cleats. ;-) Pegboards seem to be heresy.
I have four rows of cleats on every wall in my shop. I have hung pegboards of every shape and size with my "ad hoc" approach to storage using cleats. The pegboards became super useful when I discovered sturdy, immovable pegboard hooks. I
pegboard to "drop on" to a cleat and fit snugly. My example is a small piece but I've used this approach for hanging a full sheet of 1/4" pegboard. For that I attached it with four 4' wide cleats. I attached the top one first and hung the pegboard. ThenNow there's something that's never occurred to me. You hang pegboard >>>>>>>> over cleats? Do you frame the pegboard then add the cleat to that? >>>>>>>> There has to be a space between the pegboard and whatever is behind >>>>>>>> it. The lower cleats would get in the way.Pictures: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0gGKQPy6GcwCQt
I don't have to worry about screwing things into the wall. I'll never >>>>>>>> have to patch the wall. Like I said earlier, I plan to hang cabinets >>>>>>>> with cleats but otherwise I'm unconvinced. Maybe it's just the >>>>>>>> YouTubers but their walls seem pretty sparse, more cleats than tools. >>>>>>>> I'd have to put on track shoes if I didn't do better than that. >>>>>>>
You have to get very creative to get the most out of cleats and pegboard. As always, if it takes a lot of words to describe, I just make more pictures. There are three pictures in this group that show the use of wood spacer strips to allow a
space.Now there is an idea I hadn't thought of. That makes cleats a more >>>>>> attractive alternative. No commitment. Push the decision down the
road.
I tend to make custom shelves and mounts for various things to hang on the cleats. The pictures show the examples of everything that I mounted with cleats. Its really handy to be able to move things around to take maximum advantage of the wall
can easily hang a battery powered tool on one hook and it will not shake, rattle, wiggle, or give way. If you need to move them, just unscrew and screw it into another hole.That looks like a good argument for cleats. Along with the pegboard, >>>>>> I may go that way, particularly since I really don't know how things >>>>>> should be organized yet.
If you decide to do pegboard, PLEASE use Triton Durahook products for hooks and racks. Don't wince at the cost. All other pegboard hook products are junk by comparison. These are securely attached by screws that thread into the pegboard hole. You
full sized sheets that my neighbor pulled down from his garage and threw in the trash.I'll look into them but I plan on using steel pegboard. I have a pile
of HDF but I really don't like it.
What don't you like about HDF? What advantage do you see in using steel? I considered steel at some point, but found the Triton fasteners worked so well in HDF that I abandoned the steel idea. As a matter of fact, all my pegboard came from a pile of
Strength. It takes more support in the middle. Hooks can't be placed
where the supports are. I've always had hooks fall out. A RPITA.
It looks like hell after a few months.
I just received an email for these. They look interesting.
https://www.mcfeelys.com/talon-straight-pegboard-hooks-1-3-8-in-12-pack.html
Probably not available in California, NO CANCER warning information. ;~)
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