Is anybody there?
On 11/27/2021 3:29 AM, ck wrote:
Is anybody there?
No we are all at home.
Is anybody there?
"ck"Â wrote in message news:61a1fa68$0$6456$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
Is anybody there?
Was busy cleaning my shop and putting "stuff" away from my renovation, natural edge walnut slab window stool project, snowblower repairs, and
other projects that I hadn't made time for previously.
I found a new shop tool that I fully endorse. It's ZEP sweeping
compound. https://www.homedepot.com/p/ZEP-50-lbs-Sweeping-Compound-HDSWEEP50/202056504
The sweeping compound keeps the dust from becoming airborne. It also
attracts dust and seems to pull it out of the concrete surface. It
offers a light scrubbing action when pushed around with a wide broom
that removed some of the shop grime from the floor too. It got fire extinguisher "dust" off the concrete that had escaped sweeping and
vacuuming in the past--somehow or other my son accidently discharged a
fire extinguisher that was in a box of stuff he had stored in my basement.
It worked so good in the shop and basement that I used it in the rooms
I'm renovating... I addition to the construction dust I have an English Setter so little white hairs were everywhere too. It all came up and the
dog hair accumulated on the broom instead of taking off into the air.
Wonderful product!
Is anybody there?
On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 4:29:15 AM UTC-5, ck wrote:
Is anybody there?
I was there, but now I'm on my way to not there.
I didn't feel like driving 10 hours in the rain and snow, so I got a room
for the night, halfway between there and not there.
My son and his GF bought a house there. Nice place. Too bad there
is a 10 hour drive from not there. I'd like to spend more time there.
Is anybody there?
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 20:13:45 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 4:29:15 AM UTC-5, ck wrote:
Is anybody there?
I was there, but now I'm on my way to not there.
I didn't feel like driving 10 hours in the rain and snow, so I got a room >for the night, halfway between there and not there.
My son and his GF bought a house there. Nice place. Too bad thereSmart kid. It's good to get away from the parents for a time. 10H is
is a 10 hour drive from not there. I'd like to spend more time there.
perhaps a bit much. Our first place was at least twice that.
Remember the national 55mph speed limit? CB radios and RADAR detectors? ;-)
I didn't pick up my new truck from not there, either. Four month
order cycle. Could be worse but having SWMBO chaffering me around
wasn't fun (but could drive anyway).
On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 11:56:40 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 20:13:45 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 4:29:15 AM UTC-5, ck wrote:Smart kid. It's good to get away from the parents for a time. 10H is
Is anybody there?
I was there, but now I'm on my way to not there.
I didn't feel like driving 10 hours in the rain and snow, so I got a room >> >for the night, halfway between there and not there.
My son and his GF bought a house there. Nice place. Too bad there
is a 10 hour drive from not there. I'd like to spend more time there.
perhaps a bit much. Our first place was at least twice that.
They've been away from the 'rents for a while. 9 years I think.
First it was 2500 miles away. Only drove there once, sort of. Flew 2300 miles >to Son #2's house, then drove 8 hours over 2 days (sight seeing) to Son #1's >place.
Then it was a 6 hour drive, but only for 1 year. Drove that twice. That's easy.
Now it's 10 hours. Maybe I'll drive it in spring/summer, but driving in the snow
and rain @ 31° really sucks.
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Remember the national 55mph speed limit? CB radios and RADAR detectors? ;-)
I like the stretches of 70 MPH limits from this trip. I always add 9 MPH, don't even
slow down when I see the po-po.
Son #2 spends time with his truck in the dunes of NV and CA. They still use CB's when
there's no cell coverage.
I didn't pick up my new truck from not there, either. Four month
order cycle. Could be worse but having SWMBO chaffering me around
wasn't fun (but could drive anyway).
ck<ck@none.none> wrote in news:61a1fa68$0$6456$426a74cc@news.free.fr:
Is anybody there?
Yeah... Got to do some "woodworking" if you can call it that. The tree has decided our drainpipe is the way to be, so now I have to either find a plumber or an electric root cutting auger. I'm very tempted to go the root cutting auger way. The last guy was excellent but it cost nearly $2000 for the camera, auger, and removing roots every 3' along the pipe.
Puckdropper
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Is anybody there?
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this
year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a >minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast?
I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
On 11/27/2021 2:29 AM, ck wrote:
Is anybody there?
I started out 2021 very strong, on schedule, with lots of work, and a
little working capital to smooth over any bumps. A death in the family,
a brain surgery in the family, elderly relatives that needed extra care
and took it as opening for demanding care for months, a couple jobs that
went badly, and 2021 may well be my most hated year in business since I started my first business back in the 1980s. I feel like I've been
treading water. The reality is it could have been a very good year. The work has been there, and its profitable work.
I've been working seven days a week trying to get back on level ground,
but when you have a bad day you can't just leave it for somebody else to clean up your mess when you are self employed. Yesterday working late I managed to destroy 11 work pieces simultaneously on three different machines. I have stacks of parts that just need a little hand finishing
to ship I never even got to.
Personal projects? Not flipping likely. Not any time soon. I have a whiteboard in the back of the shop with a list of necessary personal and
shop projects. They are prioritized with numbers from 1-10 with 10
being urgent. Lots of 9s on there, but the only one labeled 10 is clean
up the shop. The list hasn't changed in months until Thanksgiving day
when I finally moved my construction tool cart of of the house and back
to the shop after installing a shop made stainless surround behind the stove. That was NOT on my list. It was on my wife's list. Getting the tool cart back was an 8 on my to do list. A new (earlier this year)
milling machine in the shop really needed its own tool cart. I was very happy to cross that off my list, then right below it add a new one.
Empty tool cart. Still I felt good about it. Friday I got a couple
small jobs done in the shop. Saturday was about the same. Sunday was
on track to be a banner day bringing me a lot closer to being on
schedule until it wasn't.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became >>> an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this
year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a
year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of >>> a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became >>> an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the >>> same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this
year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a >> minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than theThe guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became >>> an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this
year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a
year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 11:35:49 AM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
Free breakfast hasn't been an issue for me recently. I stayed at a cheap Comfort Inn in New England, a nice Marriott in the Great Lakes Region
(twice) and booked a Hilton (Home2 Suites) in the mid-west for my
daughter. All had free breakfast, although the breakfast offerings at the Comfort Inn left a lot to be desired. I was traveling alone, so I went cheap. SWMBO wouldn't have approved of my choice and I wouldn't have blamed
her. What a dump.
If I want to complain about something, it would be the Pet Fees. Both the Marriott and the Hilton list their properties as "Pet Friendly" and then charge $100 and $75 respectively for bringing a pet. When you are only staying one night, that's one heck of an upcharge.
I booked the Marriott directly through the property and talked them into reducing the fee to $50 for each single night stay. However, when I checked in for the second stay, I was politely informed that as of January 1st, they would no longer be discounting the fee. I don't have plans to stop there again any time soon, but I'd really like to test that claim.
As far as the Hilton, I had to book that through their (offshore, I suspect) reservations desk. They couldn't discount the Pet Fee, but when I threatened to reserve elsewhere, they took $25 off the room rate to essentially get the Pet Fee down to $50.
On 11/29/2021 13:47, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed >>>> at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of >>>> a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became >>>> an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the >>>> same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this
year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a >>> minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a
year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of >> >>> a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became >> >>> an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the >> >>> same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this
year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a >> >> minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a
year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop >offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you >have 94 empty rooms.
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed >>>>> at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of >>>>> a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became >>>>> an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the >>>>> same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this
year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a >>>> minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a
year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you have 94 empty rooms.
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed >>>>> at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of >>>>> a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became >>>>> an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the >>>>> same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the >>>>> waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this >>>> year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a >>>> minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a >>> year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you
have 94 empty rooms.
This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either.
You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to
you to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either.
On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August. >>>
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed >>>>>>> at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of >>>>>>> a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became >>>>>>> an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the >>>>>>> same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the >>>>>>> waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this >>>>>> year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a >>>>>> minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a >>>>> year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple >>>>> of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop >>> offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you
have 94 empty rooms.
You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to
you to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
What daily routines are you referring to, specifically ones that you would
do at a hotel?
In my recent experience, the amount of cleaning varies. Some offer new
towels every 3 days, things like that. Extra house cleaning is often an option,
you just have to ask. IIRC that began way before Covid, especially the towels.
It's all about "water conservation", so they say.
It's been years since I did anything that even resembled an "extended stay" at
a hotel, so cleaning has not been issue for me. Usually it's just 1 or 2 nights.
I've taken longer vacations but in most cases we move around, like 2 nights here, 2 nights there, etc. In addition, we tend to use Airbnb more than hotels
for anything longer than 2 nights. They don't get cleaned every day either, never did.
Bottom line, I don't think I've stayed anywhere that required me to "clean" my
room during my stay. I don't clean my own bathroom or change the sheets
every few days, so why would I do it at a hotel? In fact, even back in the days
where daily cleaning was routine, I usually hung the Do Not Disturb tag on the
door anyway. I never needed anyone to clean for me every day and I didn't have
to worry about "neatening up" before they came in. Basically, I didn't want them
in my room during my stay.
On 11/30/2021 9:49 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote: >>>> On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either. >> You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed >>>>>>> at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the >>>>>>> waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this >>>>>> year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the >>>>> North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a >>>>> year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple >>>>> of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often >>>>> mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop >>> offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you
have 94 empty rooms.
you to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
What daily routines are you referring to, specifically ones that you would do at a hotel?Until relatively recently beds were made, bathroom towels were replaced, floor vacuumed, trash cans emptied, daily.
This may not be important to you but If I am paying for this service I
expect this service, or a discount.
In my recent experience, the amount of cleaning varies. Some offer new towels every 3 days, things like that. Extra house cleaning is often an option,
you just have to ask. IIRC that began way before Covid, especially the towels.
It's all about "water conservation", so they say.
It's been years since I did anything that even resembled an "extended stay" at
a hotel, so cleaning has not been issue for me. Usually it's just 1 or 2 nights.
I've taken longer vacations but in most cases we move around, like 2 nights here, 2 nights there, etc. In addition, we tend to use Airbnb more than hotels
for anything longer than 2 nights. They don't get cleaned every day either, never did.
Bottom line, I don't think I've stayed anywhere that required me to "clean" my
room during my stay. I don't clean my own bathroom or change the sheets every few days, so why would I do it at a hotel? In fact, even back in the days
where daily cleaning was routine, I usually hung the Do Not Disturb tag on the
door anyway. I never needed anyone to clean for me every day and I didn't have
to worry about "neatening up" before they came in. Basically, I didn't want them
in my room during my stay.
As far as a discount, I almost always ask for a discount when booking a room. Not because they aren't cleaning it daily, but just because I hate paying full price.
It never hurts to ask, and in all three cases this past week, a discount was applied.
On 11/30/2021 12:14 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
As far as a discount, I almost always ask for a discount when booking a room.
Not because they aren't cleaning it daily, but just because I hate paying full price.
It never hurts to ask, and in all three cases this past week, a discount was applied.
I typically "inquire/negotiate" from a cell phone, even while sitting in
the parking lot of the motel I'm calling. I have also got significant >discounts in the lobby by saying "that's more than I expected to pay--I
may go compare to some of the other motels down the road first..". To
which I was asked, "Well, what did you expect to pay?" And I got that
rate ($70). As she was writing it up, I needed to remind her that I
meant **including** taxes and fees--the final price! ; )
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either.
On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >> >> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed >> >>>>> at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the >> >>>>> same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this
year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a >> >>> year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop >> > offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you
have 94 empty rooms.
You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to
you to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
What daily routines are you referring to, specifically ones that you would
do at a hotel?
In my recent experience, the amount of cleaning varies. Some offer new
towels every 3 days, things like that. Extra house cleaning is often an option,
you just have to ask. IIRC that began way before Covid, especially the towels. >It's all about "water conservation", so they say.
It's been years since I did anything that even resembled an "extended stay" at >a hotel, so cleaning has not been issue for me. Usually it's just 1 or 2 nights.
I've taken longer vacations but in most cases we move around, like 2 nights >here, 2 nights there, etc. In addition, we tend to use Airbnb more than hotels >for anything longer than 2 nights. They don't get cleaned every day either, >never did.
Bottom line, I don't think I've stayed anywhere that required me to "clean" my >room during my stay. I don't clean my own bathroom or change the sheets
every few days, so why would I do it at a hotel? In fact, even back in the days
where daily cleaning was routine, I usually hung the Do Not Disturb tag on the >door anyway. I never needed anyone to clean for me every day and I didn't have >to worry about "neatening up" before they came in. Basically, I didn't want them
in my room during my stay.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 07:49:18 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either. >> You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to
On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the >> >>>>> waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this >> >>>> year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a >> >>> year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple >> >>> of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop >> > offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you
have 94 empty rooms.
you to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
What daily routines are you referring to, specifically ones that you would >do at a hotel?
In my recent experience, the amount of cleaning varies. Some offer new >towels every 3 days, things like that. Extra house cleaning is often an option,Most of the hotels where I've stayed for more than one night, say
you just have to ask. IIRC that began way before Covid, especially the towels.
It's all about "water conservation", so they say.
something like "throw dirty towels on the floor or to save water, hang
them on the bar". They've all had daily housekeeping, AFAIK. Room
service in only the top tier hotels ($200 and up).
It's been years since I did anything that even resembled an "extended stay" atThe beach rentals we've done get cleaned between renters. The owners
a hotel, so cleaning has not been issue for me. Usually it's just 1 or 2 nights.
I've taken longer vacations but in most cases we move around, like 2 nights >here, 2 nights there, etc. In addition, we tend to use Airbnb more than hotels
for anything longer than 2 nights. They don't get cleaned every day either, >never did.
treat it like a long-term lease (privacy and all that).
Bottom line, I don't think I've stayed anywhere that required me to "clean" myThe above beach units have to be cleaned by the outgoing renters to
room during my stay. I don't clean my own bathroom or change the sheets >every few days, so why would I do it at a hotel? In fact, even back in the days
where daily cleaning was routine, I usually hung the Do Not Disturb tag on the
door anyway. I never needed anyone to clean for me every day and I didn't have
to worry about "neatening up" before they came in. Basically, I didn't want them
in my room during my stay.
some degree ("broom clean", garbage out, dishes in the DW, used
bedding on the floor. It seems that they only schedule a half day
between rentals so there isn't much time to scrub it top to bottom.
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 1:36:55 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 07:49:18 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:Most of the hotels where I've stayed for more than one night, say
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote: >> >> >> On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either. >> >> You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the >> >> >>>>> waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this >> >> >>>> year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the >> >> >>> North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a
year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple >> >> >>> of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often >> >> >>> mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop
offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you
have 94 empty rooms.
you to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
What daily routines are you referring to, specifically ones that you would >> >do at a hotel?
In my recent experience, the amount of cleaning varies. Some offer new
towels every 3 days, things like that. Extra house cleaning is often an option,
you just have to ask. IIRC that began way before Covid, especially the towels.
It's all about "water conservation", so they say.
something like "throw dirty towels on the floor or to save water, hang
them on the bar". They've all had daily housekeeping, AFAIK. Room
service in only the top tier hotels ($200 and up).
It's been years since I did anything that even resembled an "extended stay" atThe beach rentals we've done get cleaned between renters. The owners
a hotel, so cleaning has not been issue for me. Usually it's just 1 or 2 nights.
I've taken longer vacations but in most cases we move around, like 2 nights >> >here, 2 nights there, etc. In addition, we tend to use Airbnb more than hotels
for anything longer than 2 nights. They don't get cleaned every day either, >> >never did.
treat it like a long-term lease (privacy and all that).
Bottom line, I don't think I've stayed anywhere that required me to "clean" myThe above beach units have to be cleaned by the outgoing renters to
room during my stay. I don't clean my own bathroom or change the sheets
every few days, so why would I do it at a hotel? In fact, even back in the days
where daily cleaning was routine, I usually hung the Do Not Disturb tag on the
door anyway. I never needed anyone to clean for me every day and I didn't have
to worry about "neatening up" before they came in. Basically, I didn't want them
in my room during my stay.
some degree ("broom clean", garbage out, dishes in the DW, used
bedding on the floor. It seems that they only schedule a half day
between rentals so there isn't much time to scrub it top to bottom.
I've experienced varying levels of "cleaning requirements at Airbnb's.
Some are pretty lenient, some make me question why I am even paying
a cleaning fee.
I have a family member that owns 2 Airbnb houses in a tourist area. He
is usually booked back to back. He does a lot of his own cleaning but
has a service available if needed. He scrambles, but he gets it done.
He's only had one "squatter". He got to the house at 10 to clean and there >was no one there, but all their stuff was. Open suitcases, personal items >everywhere, even the dog. He called them and they said they were stuck
at a repair shop getting their RV fixed. Luckily he had the night open, so
he extended their stay.
Next day, 10 AM, same thing. Open suitcases, personal items everywhere,
even the dog. Except this time they aren't answering their phone. He left >messages through every means possible that if they weren't back by 1:00,
he was going to move all their stuff into the garage and call Animal Control >to come get the dog.
At 1:00, he started moving their stuff so he could clean. He's a dog owner, >so he didn't call Animal Control just yet. Soft hearted guy. After all, the dog
didn't do anything wrong.
Around 2:00, they finally rolled up in their RV. Apparently, the elderly Mom >was all apologetic about the delay, but the son was a real A-hole. "Don't >blame me, they took too long to fix the da*m RV", etc. Never provided a
good reason for not responding to all of the contact attempts.
In the end, they were gone before the next guests arrived so it all worked >out. At least he got paid for his trouble since he obviously charged them
for the extra night, which would have been open.
Overall, he doing great with the Airbnb business. He's hoping to show
enough income this year to qualify for a mortgage on a 3rd house to
Airbnb.
Is anybody there?
On 11/27/2021 4:29 AM, ck wrote:
Is anybody there?
I, for one, am _not_ here. The last time I looked I was over there but that >was almost an hour ago...
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 11:09:03 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 11/30/2021 9:49 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:Until relatively recently beds were made, bathroom towels were replaced,
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>>> On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either. >>>> You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed >>>>>>>>> at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the >>>>>>>>> waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this >>>>>>>> year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the >>>>>>> North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a >>>>>>> year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple >>>>>>> of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often >>>>>>> mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop >>>>> offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you
have 94 empty rooms.
you to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
What daily routines are you referring to, specifically ones that you would >>> do at a hotel?
floor vacuumed, trash cans emptied, daily.
This may not be important to you but If I am paying for this service I
expect this service, or a discount.
I think you need to change your expectations.
I consider this analogous to the purchase of ice cream. Remember when
$2.69 got you a half gallon? Now it gets you 48 oz. You are not paying for
64 oz and getting 48, you are paying for 48 and getting 48. That's the current price for the current product.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:27:38 -0500, John McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere>
wrote:
On 11/27/2021 4:29 AM, ck wrote:
Is anybody there?
I, for one, am _not_ here. The last time I looked I was over there but that >> was almost an hour ago...
He's a real nowhere man
Sitting in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
On 11/27/2021 9:43 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
Very cool! So does that sweeping compound have a color, red maybe?
Was busy cleaning my shop and putting "stuff" away from my renovation,
natural edge walnut slab window stool project, snowblower repairs, and
other projects that I hadn't made time for previously.
I found a new shop tool that I fully endorse. It's ZEP sweeping compound.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/ZEP-50-lbs-Sweeping-Compound-HDSWEEP50/202056504 >> Wonderful product!
Way back when, 60's, the small town that my grand mother lived in had 2 >grocery stores. Both within eye site of each other and my grand mother's >house. Her preferred store delivered groceries inside her home and put her >grovery bill on her tab. Boy, those were the days. Anyway the store had
red wooden floors. Red because of the red sweeping compound that was piled >up in all the corners.
On 11/30/2021 11:14 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 11:09:03 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 11/30/2021 9:49 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:Until relatively recently beds were made, bathroom towels were replaced, >> floor vacuumed, trash cans emptied, daily.
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>>> On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either. >>>> You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> >>>>>>> wrote:The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the >>>>>>>>> waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this >>>>>>>> year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the >>>>>>> North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a
year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple >>>>>>> of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often >>>>>>> mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop
offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid. >>>>>
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you
have 94 empty rooms.
you to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
What daily routines are you referring to, specifically ones that you would
do at a hotel?
This may not be important to you but If I am paying for this service I
expect this service, or a discount.
I think you need to change your expectations.
I consider this analogous to the purchase of ice cream. Remember when
$2.69 got you a half gallon? Now it gets you 48 oz. You are not paying for 64 oz and getting 48, you are paying for 48 and getting 48. That's the current price for the current product.
Did you vote for Biden? ;~)
I have already changed my expectations, does not mean I have to agree.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:32:26 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 1:36:55 PM UTC-5, k...@notreal.com wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 07:49:18 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:45:17 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:Most of the hotels where I've stayed for more than one night, say
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote: >> >> >> On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed
at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the
waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this
year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the >> >> >>> North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a
year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often >> >> >>> mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop
offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you
have 94 empty rooms.
You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to
you to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
What daily routines are you referring to, specifically ones that you would
do at a hotel?
In my recent experience, the amount of cleaning varies. Some offer new
towels every 3 days, things like that. Extra house cleaning is often an option,
you just have to ask. IIRC that began way before Covid, especially the towels.
It's all about "water conservation", so they say.
something like "throw dirty towels on the floor or to save water, hang
them on the bar". They've all had daily housekeeping, AFAIK. Room
service in only the top tier hotels ($200 and up).
It's been years since I did anything that even resembled an "extended stay" atThe beach rentals we've done get cleaned between renters. The owners
a hotel, so cleaning has not been issue for me. Usually it's just 1 or 2 nights.
I've taken longer vacations but in most cases we move around, like 2 nights
here, 2 nights there, etc. In addition, we tend to use Airbnb more than hotels
for anything longer than 2 nights. They don't get cleaned every day either,
never did.
treat it like a long-term lease (privacy and all that).
Bottom line, I don't think I've stayed anywhere that required me to "clean" myThe above beach units have to be cleaned by the outgoing renters to
room during my stay. I don't clean my own bathroom or change the sheets >> >every few days, so why would I do it at a hotel? In fact, even back in the days
where daily cleaning was routine, I usually hung the Do Not Disturb tag on the
door anyway. I never needed anyone to clean for me every day and I didn't have
to worry about "neatening up" before they came in. Basically, I didn't want them
in my room during my stay.
some degree ("broom clean", garbage out, dishes in the DW, used
bedding on the floor. It seems that they only schedule a half day
between rentals so there isn't much time to scrub it top to bottom.
I've experienced varying levels of "cleaning requirements at Airbnb's.We try to leave them as clean as they were when we got there but
Some are pretty lenient, some make me question why I am even paying
a cleaning fee.
follow the directions (dishes in the DW, not turned on is typical).
Some don't even have vacuums, others are tile throughout, which is a
good idea for a beach house.
I have a family member that owns 2 Airbnb houses in a tourist area. Hewe've stayed at have a check-out at 9:00 or 10:00 and the next
is usually booked back to back. He does a lot of his own cleaning but
has a service available if needed. He scrambles, but he gets it done. Back-to-back check-in/check-out the same hour? Most of the rentals
check-in at 5:00 on the same Saturday. Everyone gets a "full" week and
the owner doesn't miss a day's income.
He's only had one "squatter". He got to the house at 10 to clean and there >was no one there, but all their stuff was. Open suitcases, personal items >everywhere, even the dog. He called them and they said they were stuck
at a repair shop getting their RV fixed. Luckily he had the night open, so >he extended their stay.
Next day, 10 AM, same thing. Open suitcases, personal items everywhere, >even the dog. Except this time they aren't answering their phone. He left >messages through every means possible that if they weren't back by 1:00,
he was going to move all their stuff into the garage and call Animal Control >to come get the dog.
At 1:00, he started moving their stuff so he could clean. He's a dog owner, >so he didn't call Animal Control just yet. Soft hearted guy. After all, the dog
didn't do anything wrong.
I would have charged the second day plus additional cleaning. He
doesn't need them back anyway.
Is there some service where they can
rate renters something like the sites that rank the properties?
Around 2:00, they finally rolled up in their RV. Apparently, the elderly Mom >was all apologetic about the delay, but the son was a real A-hole. "Don't >blame me, they took too long to fix the da*m RV", etc. Never provided a >good reason for not responding to all of the contact attempts.Yeah, don't need them back.
In the end, they were gone before the next guests arrived so it all worked >out. At least he got paid for his trouble since he obviously charged them >for the extra night, which would have been open.Should have been two.
Overall, he doing great with the Airbnb business. He's hoping to show >enough income this year to qualify for a mortgage on a 3rd house toDoes he have a special insurance policy that covers him for a
Airbnb.
commercial property? LLC for each, or similar? Just curious. I've
heard podcasts with the strategies for Air-B&Bs and protection from
the financial risks. It's interesting stuff but far to risky for me.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:56:52 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:Good point. "Free" breakfast is a marketing tool to "steal" customers
On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August. >>
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed >>>>>> at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some sort of >>>>>> a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it became >>>>>> an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge the >>>>>> same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the >>>>>> waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this >>>>> year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast as a >>>>> minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a >>>> year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop
offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests when you >> have 94 empty rooms.
from other hotels in the area. If there are no customers to steal or
not enough to market to, it makes sense not to do the marketing.
On 11/29/2021 3:56 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 4:18:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:This is true but most hotels are not offering daily room service either.
On 11/29/2021 13:47, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:27:27 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this
wrote:
On 11/29/2021 10:35 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/28/2021 20:20, DerbyDad03 wrote:
A warm bed and free breakfast is so much better.
Sorry to derail, but do any hotels still offer breakfast? I've stayed >>>>>> at 3-4 hotels since COVID, and every one that used to have some
sort of
a breakfast was no longer doing it, "due to COVID". I figured it
became
an industry-wide thing to dump hotel breakfast, so they can charge >>>>>> the
same for a room and save money. I miss staying at a hotel with the >>>>>> waffle iron in the lobby... that was the best part, lol.
My wife and I travel quite a bit and October last year, June of this >>>>> year the hotels that we stayed in all offered continental breakfast
as a
minimum.
Now this was in Texas , Tennessee, Mississippi,
Hampton, Hilton, and Menger.
Yeah, things are a lot more open in the South (red states) than the
North. Here, everything has been pretty much back to normal for over a >>>> year. A few cities/counties imposed a silly mask mandate for a couple
of months earlier this year but nothing spectacular now. RSV, often
mistaken for covid, is much of the problem now.
August.
Could be an Covid excuse of a different flavor:
Maybe it wasn't the "social distancing" part of Covid that made him stop
offering free grub. Maybe it was the lack of guests part of Covid.
You can't cost-effectively provide free breakfast for your 6 guests
when you
have 94 empty rooms.
You get a clean room and a made bed when you walk in. Then it up to you
to do the daily routines yourself.
Over night, not so bad, extended stay, not so good.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
On 11/29/2021 20:12, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttierOh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >> >> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Heck, I didn't even know that Chicago was a state. My, how things have >changed. :-)
On 11/29/2021 20:12, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August. >>Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:54:25 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Heck, I didn't even know that Chicago was a state. My, how things have
changed. :-)
A lot of folks around here would not mind if that was true. (southern Illinois)
On 12/2/2021 4:55 PM, Markem618 wrote:
On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:54:25 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Heck, I didn't even know that Chicago was a state. My, how things have
changed. :-)
A lot of folks around here would not mind if that was true. (southern
Illinois)
What country is Chicago in?
On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:05:59 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August. >>>Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Exact opposite? The whole state is *exactly* that. It's controlled
by Chicago but it drags the whole state into loonyville. Check their
credit rating.
On 12/2/2021 19:54, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:05:59 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Exact opposite? The whole state is *exactly* that. It's controlled
by Chicago but it drags the whole state into loonyville. Check their
credit rating.
The whole state of Illinois is a southern red state? Are you sure about >that? I can't vouch for the rest of IL, but Chicago is a very blue state.
On 11/28/2021 5:42, Puckdropper wrote:
ck<ck@none.none> wrote in
news:61a1fa68$0$6456$426a74cc@news.free.fr:
Is anybody there?
Yeah... Got to do some "woodworking" if you can call it that. The
tree has decided our drainpipe is the way to be, so now I have to
either find a plumber or an electric root cutting auger. I'm very
tempted to go the root cutting auger way. The last guy was excellent
but it cost nearly $2000 for the camera, auger, and removing roots
every 3' along the pipe.
Puckdropper
Have you tried copper sulfate down the drain? I have to have a guy
come out an auger tree roots form the sewer, sometimes 80 feet out,
because eventually the greywater starts backing up into my cellar
(thank God, typically not the toilet). Seems to happen every 2 years.
He told me last time that if it happens again, I really should pay
for the camera line inspection. It's the old terracotta pipes.
Anyway, I bought a bag of copper sulfate on eBay, and they jammed the
10 lbs of sulfate into this flat rate bubble mailer... I have no clue
how it fit, but they REALLY got their monies worth out of that little envelope from USPS... haha! I'm going to dump some directly into the clean-out in the cellar with water, and flush the rest. Supposedly if
you do it annually, it will kill all of the tree roots that get into
the pipes, without killing the tree.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote in
news:so2voi$96h$1@dont-email.me:
On 11/28/2021 5:42, Puckdropper wrote:
ck<ck@none.none> wrote in
news:61a1fa68$0$6456$426a74cc@news.free.fr:
Is anybody there?
Yeah... Got to do some "woodworking" if you can call it that. The
tree has decided our drainpipe is the way to be, so now I have to
either find a plumber or an electric root cutting auger. I'm very
tempted to go the root cutting auger way. The last guy was excellent
but it cost nearly $2000 for the camera, auger, and removing roots
every 3' along the pipe.
Puckdropper
Have you tried copper sulfate down the drain? I have to have a guy
come out an auger tree roots form the sewer, sometimes 80 feet out,
because eventually the greywater starts backing up into my cellar
(thank God, typically not the toilet). Seems to happen every 2 years.
He told me last time that if it happens again, I really should pay
for the camera line inspection. It's the old terracotta pipes.
Anyway, I bought a bag of copper sulfate on eBay, and they jammed the
10 lbs of sulfate into this flat rate bubble mailer... I have no clue
how it fit, but they REALLY got their monies worth out of that little
envelope from USPS... haha! I'm going to dump some directly into the
clean-out in the cellar with water, and flush the rest. Supposedly if
you do it annually, it will kill all of the tree roots that get into
the pipes, without killing the tree.
I've heard good things about Copper Sulfate. A plumber told me about
RootX which foams to get the roots at the top of the pipe, unlike the
Copper Sulfate. It seems to have done pretty decent...
I found one blockage and ran the snake to the end of the line. Guess
it's some new roots that didn't know that pipe wasn't where they were >supposed to be. I'll RootX things here in about 6 weeks. (It was
suggested to either do it immediately--like within 2 hours--or wait 6
weeks so the plants aren't in defensive stage.)
Puckdropper
On 12/2/2021 19:54, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:05:59 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Exact opposite? The whole state is *exactly* that. It's controlled
by Chicago but it drags the whole state into loonyville. Check their
credit rating.
The whole state of Illinois is a southern red state? Are you sure about >that? I can't vouch for the rest of IL, but Chicago is a very blue state.
On 12/2/2021 4:55 PM, Markem618 wrote:
On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:54:25 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Heck, I didn't even know that Chicago was a state. My, how things have
changed. :-)
A lot of folks around here would not mind if that was true. (southern
Illinois)
What country is Chicago in?
On Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:47:03 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 12/2/2021 19:54, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:05:59 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Exact opposite? The whole state is *exactly* that. It's controlled
by Chicago but it drags the whole state into loonyville. Check their
credit rating.
The whole state of Illinois is a southern red state? Are you sure about >>that? I can't vouch for the rest of IL, but Chicago is a very blue state.
You read what he said wrong, rural southern Illinois tend to red to
purple, urban centers blue. But krw has opinions that seems to be
about what was versus, what is about Illinois. All negative though but
it is only one persons opinion.
On Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:47:03 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 12/2/2021 19:54, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:05:59 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I >>>>>> stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier
states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated
from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Exact opposite? The whole state is *exactly* that. It's controlled
by Chicago but it drags the whole state into loonyville. Check their
credit rating.
The whole state of Illinois is a southern red state? Are you sure about
that? I can't vouch for the rest of IL, but Chicago is a very blue state.
I think I see the disconnect.
Me: "Chicago is hardly red state, anywhere in the state (can't be)."
You: "Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that."
Me: "_hardly_ a red state" (emphasis added).
{My interpretation: The whole state is the opposite of "hardly a red
state", meaning that it's "not, not a red state".}
....and the confusion continues. I think we're in violent agreement.
On Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:47:26 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:47:03 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 12/2/2021 19:54, krw@notreal.com wrote:You read what he said wrong, rural southern Illinois tend to red to
On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:05:59 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier >>>>>> states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated >>>>>> from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town, >>>>> probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Exact opposite? The whole state is *exactly* that. It's controlled
by Chicago but it drags the whole state into loonyville. Check their
credit rating.
The whole state of Illinois is a southern red state? Are you sure about >>>that? I can't vouch for the rest of IL, but Chicago is a very blue state. >>
purple, urban centers blue. But krw has opinions that seems to be
about what was versus, what is about Illinois. All negative though but
it is only one persons opinion.
"Downstate is blue/purple" isn't right either.
Wrong. Much of my family lived in IL until very recently (when they
finally escaped). My SIL has a teacher's retirement from IL and is
worried that the state bankruptcy coming will wipe it out. It's a
blue cesspool, on the order of CA. I can see the tax rates and the
state is still on the brink of bankruptcy. Yes, it all negative.
Deservedly so.
The cities "downstate" are blue. Only the wide, unpopulated spaces
between are blue.
On Fri, 03 Dec 2021 20:08:38 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:47:26 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> >>wrote:
On Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:47:03 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 12/2/2021 19:54, krw@notreal.com wrote:You read what he said wrong, rural southern Illinois tend to red to >>>purple, urban centers blue. But krw has opinions that seems to be
On Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:05:59 -0500, Michael Trew
<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:
On 11/29/2021 20:12, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier >>>>>>> states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated >>>>>>> from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town, >>>>>> probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Exact opposite? The whole state is *exactly* that. It's controlled >>>>> by Chicago but it drags the whole state into loonyville. Check their >>>>> credit rating.
The whole state of Illinois is a southern red state? Are you sure about >>>>that? I can't vouch for the rest of IL, but Chicago is a very blue state. >>>
about what was versus, what is about Illinois. All negative though but
it is only one persons opinion.
"Downstate is blue/purple" isn't right either.
Wrong. Much of my family lived in IL until very recently (when they
finally escaped). My SIL has a teacher's retirement from IL and is
worried that the state bankruptcy coming will wipe it out. It's a
blue cesspool, on the order of CA. I can see the tax rates and the
state is still on the brink of bankruptcy. Yes, it all negative. >>Deservedly so.
The cities "downstate" are blue. Only the wide, unpopulated spaces
between are blue.
The politicians of this state get the blame for the mess, does not
matter that your opinion blames the democrats, our last republican
governor sat on his hands and did nothing but drive the state further
into debt by his inaction. Big Jim and Jim Edgar both republicans just
push the debts off to the future.
We transferred my wife's SURS retirement to safer ground once she
retired.
I live here have watched our egotistical self serving government
officials feed themselves at the trough and not really give a damn.
Have not seen much better behavior in governments in the USA.
I do not pay income tax in this state, my real estate taxes will drop
by 25% this year and the multiplier is frozen.
Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote in
news:so2voi$96h$1...@dont-email.me:
On 11/28/2021 5:42, Puckdropper wrote:
ck<c...@none.none> wrote in
news:61a1fa68$0$6456$426a...@news.free.fr:
Is anybody there?
Yeah... Got to do some "woodworking" if you can call it that. The
tree has decided our drainpipe is the way to be, so now I have to
either find a plumber or an electric root cutting auger. I'm very
tempted to go the root cutting auger way. The last guy was excellent
but it cost nearly $2000 for the camera, auger, and removing roots
every 3' along the pipe.
Puckdropper
Have you tried copper sulfate down the drain? I have to have a guy
come out an auger tree roots form the sewer, sometimes 80 feet out,
because eventually the greywater starts backing up into my cellar
(thank God, typically not the toilet). Seems to happen every 2 years.
He told me last time that if it happens again, I really should pay
for the camera line inspection. It's the old terracotta pipes.
Anyway, I bought a bag of copper sulfate on eBay, and they jammed the
10 lbs of sulfate into this flat rate bubble mailer... I have no clue
how it fit, but they REALLY got their monies worth out of that little envelope from USPS... haha! I'm going to dump some directly into the clean-out in the cellar with water, and flush the rest. Supposedly if
you do it annually, it will kill all of the tree roots that get into
the pipes, without killing the tree.
I've heard good things about Copper Sulfate. A plumber told me about
RootX which foams to get the roots at the top of the pipe, unlike the
Copper Sulfate. It seems to have done pretty decent...
I found one blockage and ran the snake to the end of the line. Guess
it's some new roots that didn't know that pipe wasn't where they were supposed to be. I'll RootX things here in about 6 weeks. (It was
suggested to either do it immediately--like within 2 hours--or wait 6
weeks so the plants aren't in defensive stage.)
Puckdropper
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 08:26:43 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 12/2/2021 4:55 PM, Markem618 wrote:
On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:54:25 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>> On 11/29/2021 20:12, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town,
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier >>>>>> states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated >>>>>> from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
Heck, I didn't even know that Chicago was a state. My, how things have >>>> changed. :-)
A lot of folks around here would not mind if that was true. (southern
Illinois)
What country is Chicago in?
People's Republic of Illinois
On 12/3/2021 6:46 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 08:26:43 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 12/2/2021 4:55 PM, Markem618 wrote:
On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:54:25 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>>> On 11/29/2021 20:12, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town, >>>>>> probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier >>>>>>> states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated >>>>>>> from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Heck, I didn't even know that Chicago was a state. My, how things have >>>>> changed. :-)
A lot of folks around here would not mind if that was true. (southern
Illinois)
What country is Chicago in?
People's Republic of Illinois
That place that is Ill and inois me?
On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 09:06:03 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 12/3/2021 6:46 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 08:26:43 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
On 12/2/2021 4:55 PM, Markem618 wrote:
On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:54:25 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:
On Thursday, December 2, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/29/2021 20:12, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:18:10 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:Oh I know, it's the exact opposite of that. It was in a small town, >>>>>>> probably an hour and a half from Chicago.
The guy at the front desk gave me the "COVID" excuse at the last hotel I
stayed at, somewhere in the (distant) outskirts Chicago-area, this August.
Chicago is hardly in a Southern red state. It's one of the nuttier >>>>>>>> states. I was born and raised in IL but escaped the day I graduated >>>>>>>> from college. ...didn't even wait around to get the diploma.
Heck, I didn't even know that Chicago was a state. My, how things have >>>>>> changed. :-)
A lot of folks around here would not mind if that was true. (southern >>>>> Illinois)
What country is Chicago in?
People's Republic of Illinois
That place that is Ill and inois me?
A corny place, from top to bottom, left to right.
On Sat, 04 Dec 2021 13:11:01 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
That place that is Ill and inois me?
A corny place, from top to bottom, left to right.
Also home to a new green animal feed, yep that is right your pork,
chicken and beef will now be fed bugs!
Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> writes:
On Sat, 04 Dec 2021 13:11:01 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
That place that is Ill and inois me?
A corny place, from top to bottom, left to right.
Also home to a new green animal feed, yep that is right your pork,
chicken and beef will now be fed bugs!
Chicken have been eating bugs for millions of years, and hogs
will eat anything.
Protein is protean.
Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> writes:
On Sat, 04 Dec 2021 13:11:01 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
That place that is Ill and inois me?
A corny place, from top to bottom, left to right.
Also home to a new green animal feed, yep that is right your pork,
chicken and beef will now be fed bugs!
Chicken have been eating bugs for millions of years, and hogs
will eat anything.
Protein is protean.--
Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> writes:
On Sat, 04 Dec 2021 13:11:01 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
That place that is Ill and inois me?
A corny place, from top to bottom, left to right.
Also home to a new green animal feed, yep that is right your pork,
chicken and beef will now be fed bugs!
Chicken have been eating bugs for millions of years, and hogs
will eat anything.
Protein is protean.
Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> writes:
On Sat, 04 Dec 2021 13:11:01 -0500, krw@notreal.com wrote:
That place that is Ill and inois me?
A corny place, from top to bottom, left to right.
Also home to a new green animal feed, yep that is right your pork,
chicken and beef will now be fed bugs!
Chicken have been eating bugs for millions of years, and hogs
will eat anything.
Protein is protean.
On 12/4/2021 5:50 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Markem618 <mark...@hotmail.com> writes:
On Sat, 04 Dec 2021 13:11:01 -0500, k...@notreal.com wrote:
That place that is Ill and inois me?
A corny place, from top to bottom, left to right.
Also home to a new green animal feed, yep that is right your pork,
chicken and beef will now be fed bugs!
Chicken have been eating bugs for millions of years, and hogs
will eat anything.
Protein is protean.
LOL, Yeah, city foke!
On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 10:18:49 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/4/2021 5:50 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Markem618 <mark...@hotmail.com> writes:LOL, Yeah, city foke!
On Sat, 04 Dec 2021 13:11:01 -0500, k...@notreal.com wrote:
That place that is Ill and inois me?
A corny place, from top to bottom, left to right.
Also home to a new green animal feed, yep that is right your pork,
chicken and beef will now be fed bugs!
Chicken have been eating bugs for millions of years, and hogs
will eat anything.
Protein is protean.
I grew up in the city. I ate these.
https://www.teachersource.com/product/cricket--larva-licket-lollipops
Forget that second hand protein, I went straight to the source.
On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 4:50:57 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper wrote:
Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote in
news:so2voi$96h$1...@dont-email.me:
On 11/28/2021 5:42, Puckdropper wrote:
ck<c...@none.none> wrote in
news:61a1fa68$0$6456$426a...@news.free.fr:
Is anybody there?
Yeah... Got to do some "woodworking" if you can call it that. The
tree has decided our drainpipe is the way to be, so now I have to
either find a plumber or an electric root cutting auger. I'm very
tempted to go the root cutting auger way. The last guy was excellent
but it cost nearly $2000 for the camera, auger, and removing roots
every 3' along the pipe.
Puckdropper
Have you tried copper sulfate down the drain? I have to have a guy
come out an auger tree roots form the sewer, sometimes 80 feet out,
because eventually the greywater starts backing up into my cellar
(thank God, typically not the toilet). Seems to happen every 2 years.
He told me last time that if it happens again, I really should pay
for the camera line inspection. It's the old terracotta pipes.
Anyway, I bought a bag of copper sulfate on eBay, and they jammed the
10 lbs of sulfate into this flat rate bubble mailer... I have no clue
how it fit, but they REALLY got their monies worth out of that little
envelope from USPS... haha! I'm going to dump some directly into the
clean-out in the cellar with water, and flush the rest. Supposedly if
you do it annually, it will kill all of the tree roots that get into
the pipes, without killing the tree.
I've heard good things about Copper Sulfate. A plumber told me about
RootX which foams to get the roots at the top of the pipe, unlike the
Copper Sulfate. It seems to have done pretty decent...
I found one blockage and ran the snake to the end of the line. Guess
it's some new roots that didn't know that pipe wasn't where they were
supposed to be. I'll RootX things here in about 6 weeks. (It was
suggested to either do it immediately--like within 2 hours--or wait 6
weeks so the plants aren't in defensive stage.)
Puckdropper
I used to use RootX every 6 months as preventative maintenance since
I knew that roots were entering my pipe. That worked for over 5 years
and then it didn't.
I called a company that installs sleeves and also does a free scope as
part of the estimating process. He determined that the junction between
my 65 YO pipe Orangeburg pipe and the PVC that the town install about
15 years ago was letting in roots.
For $2500 he could install a 2 foot sleeve at the junction to seal it up,
but - believe it or not - he said "Call the town first. They might accept responsibility and do it for free."
I called the town, and sure enough, they knew that the junctions they
had installed were failing. About a week later I had a sleeve installed
for free.
I would have gladly paid the $2500 to the first guy, but he was nice
enough to suggest calling the town. You don't get that kind of service
too often these days.
On 12/4/2021 5:14, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 4:50:57 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper wrote:
Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote in
news:so2voi$96h$1...@dont-email.me:
On 11/28/2021 5:42, Puckdropper wrote:
ck<c...@none.none> wrote in
news:61a1fa68$0$6456$426a...@news.free.fr:
Is anybody there?
Yeah... Got to do some "woodworking" if you can call it that. The
tree has decided our drainpipe is the way to be, so now I have to
either find a plumber or an electric root cutting auger. I'm very
tempted to go the root cutting auger way. The last guy was excellent >>>> but it cost nearly $2000 for the camera, auger, and removing roots
every 3' along the pipe.
Puckdropper
Have you tried copper sulfate down the drain? I have to have a guy
come out an auger tree roots form the sewer, sometimes 80 feet out,
because eventually the greywater starts backing up into my cellar
(thank God, typically not the toilet). Seems to happen every 2 years.
He told me last time that if it happens again, I really should pay
for the camera line inspection. It's the old terracotta pipes.
Anyway, I bought a bag of copper sulfate on eBay, and they jammed the
10 lbs of sulfate into this flat rate bubble mailer... I have no clue
how it fit, but they REALLY got their monies worth out of that little
envelope from USPS... haha! I'm going to dump some directly into the
clean-out in the cellar with water, and flush the rest. Supposedly if
you do it annually, it will kill all of the tree roots that get into
the pipes, without killing the tree.
I've heard good things about Copper Sulfate. A plumber told me about
RootX which foams to get the roots at the top of the pipe, unlike the
Copper Sulfate. It seems to have done pretty decent...
I found one blockage and ran the snake to the end of the line. Guess
it's some new roots that didn't know that pipe wasn't where they were
supposed to be. I'll RootX things here in about 6 weeks. (It was
suggested to either do it immediately--like within 2 hours--or wait 6
weeks so the plants aren't in defensive stage.)
Puckdropper
I used to use RootX every 6 months as preventative maintenance since
I knew that roots were entering my pipe. That worked for over 5 years
and then it didn't.
I called a company that installs sleeves and also does a free scope as
part of the estimating process. He determined that the junction between
my 65 YO pipe Orangeburg pipe and the PVC that the town install about
15 years ago was letting in roots.
For $2500 he could install a 2 foot sleeve at the junction to seal it up, but - believe it or not - he said "Call the town first. They might accept responsibility and do it for free."
I called the town, and sure enough, they knew that the junctions they
had installed were failing. About a week later I had a sleeve installed
for free.
I would have gladly paid the $2500 to the first guy, but he was niceI'd be concerned about orangeburg pipe collapsing.
enough to suggest calling the town. You don't get that kind of service
too often these days.
On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 9:19:54 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
On 12/4/2021 5:14, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I called a company that installs sleeves and also does a free scope as
part of the estimating process. He determined that the junction between
my 65 YO pipe Orangeburg pipe and the PVC that the town install about
15 years ago was letting in roots.
I'd be concerned about orangeburg pipe collapsing.
Brain Fart Alert!
I don't know why I typed Orangeburg. My sewer lateral is transite.
My sewer has been scoped twice in the last year and both firms said
that other than the connection that the town screwed up, my pipes, from
the roof vent all the way to the town's PVC section, look really good.
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