I have a 15 min 1080p Go Pro movie file that was recently re-encoded to
the highest quality H.264/AVC mp4 after removing some shaking in proDAD Mercalli V4. Since this ended up being a large file (10 GB), and I also
wanted to do some editing, I imported in Sony Vegas Pro 12, then tried
to render when done as MainConcept AVC/AAC mp4. Despite my efforts to
decrease file size, like editing down to 7 minutes and decreasing
resolution from 1080 to 720p, I'm still ending up with a file around 1
GB at variable bitrate settings of 20,000,000 for maximum and average
bps. If I decrease bitrate too much, the video starts to get blocky and
looks bad to try watching. The goal is for Youtube posting at some
point, but I'd like to get the file size down under 300 MB is possible
and yet retain quality at 720p. Perhaps there's a setting I'm missing
or even a different codec, so would appreciate any suggestions as to how
to proceed. I also have access to After Effects CC.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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Bill Baxter wrote:

I have a 15 min 1080p Go Pro movie file that was recently re-encoded to
the highest quality H.264/AVC mp4 after removing some shaking in proDAD Mercalli V4. Since this ended up being a large file (10 GB), and I also wanted to do some editing, I imported in Sony Vegas Pro 12, then tried
to render when done as MainConcept AVC/AAC mp4. Despite my efforts to decrease file size, like editing down to 7 minutes and decreasing
resolution from 1080 to 720p, I'm still ending up with a file around 1
GB at variable bitrate settings of 20,000,000 for maximum and average
bps. If I decrease bitrate too much, the video starts to get blocky and looks bad to try watching. The goal is for Youtube posting at some
point, but I'd like to get the file size down under 300 MB is possible
and yet retain quality at 720p. Perhaps there's a setting I'm missing
or even a different codec, so would appreciate any suggestions as to how
to proceed. I also have access to After Effects CC.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

If you take the original camera content (shakes and all),
and use GoPro Youtube preset for rendering, what
kind of video does it produce ?

http://shop.gopro.com/softwareandapp/gopro-studio/GoPro-Studio.html#/softwareDownloadForm

See if you can discover the container, codec, and profile settings,
then do that with your third-party tools.

I would not expect Studio to work, without the GoPro connected
to the computer to validate the usage of the software. Maybe
the thing is limited to import only from the camera ? If
the program was general purpose, you could ask it to
convert your 720p smoothed footage into a Youtube ready format.

Paul

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Frameserve from Vegas to Handbrake. You'll be amazed at the great results. There's a one click method of doing this.
Go to http://vegasvideo.de/vegas-2-handbrake-en and follow the instructions. There's an extensive thread on this method with more suggestions on the Sony Vegas Pro forum.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/showmessage.asp?forumid=4&messageid=932636

Mike


On Friday, 25 December 2015 05:14:34 UTC-5, Bill Baxter wrote:

I have a 15 min 1080p Go Pro movie file that was recently re-encoded to
the highest quality H.264/AVC mp4 after removing some shaking in proDAD Mercalli V4. Since this ended up being a large file (10 GB), and I also wanted to do some editing, I imported in Sony Vegas Pro 12, then tried
to render when done as MainConcept AVC/AAC mp4. Despite my efforts to decrease file size, like editing down to 7 minutes and decreasing
resolution from 1080 to 720p, I'm still ending up with a file around 1
GB at variable bitrate settings of 20,000,000 for maximum and average
bps. If I decrease bitrate too much, the video starts to get blocky and looks bad to try watching. The goal is for Youtube posting at some
point, but I'd like to get the file size down under 300 MB is possible
and yet retain quality at 720p. Perhaps there's a setting I'm missing
or even a different codec, so would appreciate any suggestions as to how
to proceed. I also have access to After Effects CC.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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I have a 15 min 1080p Go Pro movie file that was recently re-encoded to
the highest quality H.264/AVC mp4 after removing some shaking in proDAD Mercalli V4. Since this ended up being a large file (10 GB), and I also wanted to do some editing, I imported in Sony Vegas Pro 12, then tried
to render when done as MainConcept AVC/AAC mp4. Despite my efforts to decrease file size, like editing down to 7 minutes and decreasing
resolution from 1080 to 720p, I'm still ending up with a file around 1
GB at variable bitrate settings of 20,000,000 for maximum and average
bps. If I decrease bitrate too much, the video starts to get blocky and looks bad to try watching. The goal is for Youtube posting at some
point, but I'd like to get the file size down under 300 MB is possible
and yet retain quality at 720p. Perhaps there's a setting I'm missing
or even a different codec, so would appreciate any suggestions as to how
to proceed. I also have access to After Effects CC.

You should be able to get the file size down by encoding:

Video: h.264 at 2000kbps or less, 1280x720
Audio: AAC 160kbps or less, stereo

Depending on the video, I've gone as low as 800kbps and the video still
looks good.

If your video still looks bad, you might try converting the original video using something like FreeMake or Handbrake. Some encoders just don't encode
as well as others. Also choose a two pass option if it is available.

Of course, as you lower bitrate you're throwing away more and more
information. A 800kbps video will never look as good as a 8000kbps video.

Good luck,

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

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HerHusband wrote:

I have a 15 min 1080p Go Pro movie file that was recently re-encoded to
the highest quality H.264/AVC mp4 after removing some shaking in proDAD
Mercalli V4. Since this ended up being a large file (10 GB), and I also
wanted to do some editing, I imported in Sony Vegas Pro 12, then tried
to render when done as MainConcept AVC/AAC mp4. Despite my efforts to
decrease file size, like editing down to 7 minutes and decreasing
resolution from 1080 to 720p, I'm still ending up with a file around 1
GB at variable bitrate settings of 20,000,000 for maximum and average
bps. If I decrease bitrate too much, the video starts to get blocky and
looks bad to try watching. The goal is for Youtube posting at some
point, but I'd like to get the file size down under 300 MB is possible
and yet retain quality at 720p. Perhaps there's a setting I'm missing
or even a different codec, so would appreciate any suggestions as to how
to proceed. I also have access to After Effects CC.

You should be able to get the file size down by encoding:

Video: h.264 at 2000kbps or less, 1280x720
Audio: AAC 160kbps or less, stereo

Depending on the video, I've gone as low as 800kbps and the video still
looks good.

If your video still looks bad, you might try converting the original video using something like FreeMake or Handbrake. Some encoders just don't encode as well as others. Also choose a two pass option if it is available.

Of course, as you lower bitrate you're throwing away more and more information. A 800kbps video will never look as good as a 8000kbps video.

Good luck,

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

This is a video that was smoothed with some other software.
Perhaps the video is no longer using standard key frames
setup or something ?

I would start with the original video, and test your
profile idea first, then see if the video itself
tests good (has good behavior, even if the content
is shaky).

Then examine why the output of the steadied video
is hard to compress well.

Paul

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Bill Baxter wrote:

On 12/25/2015 05:14 AM, Bill Baxter wrote:

I have a 15 min 1080p Go Pro movie file that was recently re-encoded to
the highest quality H.264/AVC mp4 after removing some shaking in proDAD
Mercalli V4. Since this ended up being a large file (10 GB), and I also
wanted to do some editing, I imported in Sony Vegas Pro 12, then tried
to render when done as MainConcept AVC/AAC mp4. Despite my efforts to
decrease file size, like editing down to 7 minutes and decreasing
resolution from 1080 to 720p, I'm still ending up with a file around 1
GB at variable bitrate settings of 20,000,000 for maximum and average
bps. If I decrease bitrate too much, the video starts to get blocky and
looks bad to try watching. The goal is for Youtube posting at some
point, but I'd like to get the file size down under 300 MB is possible
and yet retain quality at 720p. Perhaps there's a setting I'm missing
or even a different codec, so would appreciate any suggestions as to how
to proceed. I also have access to After Effects CC.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

Thanks, guys. Although I tried Mike's suggestion for the one click
method using Handbrake, further testing didn't really show any
difference between that and just encoding Main concept at 10 Mbps. Both
720p file sizes are about the same either way, around 370 MB.

As I said previously, my eventual goal was placing the video on Youtube, which I did, but now I can't seem to find a way to embed an HD only
version of the video. For Facebook, for example, I can share the
original video link, but the small player that appears in Facebook will
only play at an awful 240p and the quality is just terrible and I need
it to default to 720p HD. I can't seem to find a way to implement this
in Facebook.

Bill

https://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=10204801664059090

"Whether or not your videos display in HD depends on the individual
settings of each person's profile. To watch videos in HD on your
News Feed, you'll need to follow these steps from your personal account:

1) Settings
2) Videos
3) Video Default Quality
4) Select HD if available
"

Retest and see if it works or not.

And you would not expect Facebook to play
a Youtube link at full res. They want
the video posted on their own site.

Paul

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On 12/25/2015 05:14 AM, Bill Baxter wrote:

I have a 15 min 1080p Go Pro movie file that was recently re-encoded to
the highest quality H.264/AVC mp4 after removing some shaking in proDAD Mercalli V4. Since this ended up being a large file (10 GB), and I also wanted to do some editing, I imported in Sony Vegas Pro 12, then tried
to render when done as MainConcept AVC/AAC mp4. Despite my efforts to decrease file size, like editing down to 7 minutes and decreasing
resolution from 1080 to 720p, I'm still ending up with a file around 1
GB at variable bitrate settings of 20,000,000 for maximum and average
bps. If I decrease bitrate too much, the video starts to get blocky and looks bad to try watching. The goal is for Youtube posting at some
point, but I'd like to get the file size down under 300 MB is possible
and yet retain quality at 720p. Perhaps there's a setting I'm missing
or even a different codec, so would appreciate any suggestions as to how
to proceed. I also have access to After Effects CC.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

Thanks, guys. Although I tried Mike's suggestion for the one click
method using Handbrake, further testing didn't really show any
difference between that and just encoding Main concept at 10 Mbps. Both
720p file sizes are about the same either way, around 370 MB.

As I said previously, my eventual goal was placing the video on Youtube,
which I did, but now I can't seem to find a way to embed an HD only
version of the video. For Facebook, for example, I can share the
original video link, but the small player that appears in Facebook will
only play at an awful 240p and the quality is just terrible and I need
it to default to 720p HD. I can't seem to find a way to implement this
in Facebook.

Bill

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