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  • Another 737 goes down

    From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 8 14:06:06 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.aviation, talk.politics.misc

    But it's an -800 model, not a Max:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUwF2WEpw5A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7G9S9ahUEs

    https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20200108-0

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukrainian-plane-crash-tehran-iran-180-passengers

    "The plane had been delayed from taking off from Tehran's Imam Khomeini International Airport by almost an hour. It never made it above 8,000 feet, crashing just minutes after takeoff, according to data from the
    flight-tracking website FlightRadar24.

    "Qassem Biniaz, a spokesman for Iran's Road and Transportation Ministry,
    said it appeared a fire erupted in one of its engines and the pilot lost control of the plane, according to the state-run IRNA news agency." https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/ap-ml-iran-plane-crash.html

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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to Byker on Wed Jan 8 20:14:39 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.aviation, talk.politics.misc

    In <LNqdnSL_zMOvq4vDnZ2dnUU7-I_NnZ2d@supernews.com> "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> writes:

    "Qassem Biniaz, a spokesman for Iran's Road and Transportation Ministry,
    said it appeared a fire erupted in one of its engines and the pilot lost >control of the plane, according to the state-run IRNA news agency." >https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/ap-ml-iran-plane-crash.html

    "fire erupted in one of its engines".

    Gee. Exactly the area where a heat seeking anti aircraft
    missile would hit.

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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to John Levine on Wed Jan 8 21:39:00 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.aviation, talk.politics.misc

    In <qv5hde$bi3$1@gal.iecc.com> John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes:

    Gee. Exactly the area where a heat seeking anti aircraft
    missile would hit.

    Fired by whom? In what scenario would someone in Iran shoot down a
    civilian plane from a third country that had just taken off from the
    Teheran airport? It's far more likely to have been a bird strike or >maintenance issue.

    Umm, any of 250 SAM itchy finger ground crews stationed in a circle
    around Tehran who bumped against the "fire" button?

    Then again, there was TWA 800 just a few weeks after 9/11 which
    exploded and crashed just after takeoff from JFK.

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to dannyb@panix.com on Wed Jan 8 21:26:06 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.aviation, talk.politics.misc

    In article <qv5d7f$mta$1@reader2.panix.com>,
    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    In <LNqdnSL_zMOvq4vDnZ2dnUU7-I_NnZ2d@supernews.com> "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> writes:

    "Qassem Biniaz, a spokesman for Iran's Road and Transportation Ministry, >>said it appeared a fire erupted in one of its engines and the pilot lost >>control of the plane, according to the state-run IRNA news agency." >>https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/ap-ml-iran-plane-crash.html

    "fire erupted in one of its engines".

    Gee. Exactly the area where a heat seeking anti aircraft
    missile would hit.

    Fired by whom? In what scenario would someone in Iran shoot down a
    civilian plane from a third country that had just taken off from the
    Teheran airport? It's far more likely to have been a bird strike or maintenance issue.

    Press releases from Ukrainian airlines say that the plane was
    registration number UR-PSR and it had last had routine maintenance on
    Monday at its home airport in Kyiv.



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  • From David Pirmann@21:1/5 to danny burstein on Thu Jan 9 17:29:27 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.aviation, talk.politics.misc

    In <qv5i5k$lhh$1@reader2.panix.com> danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> writes:

    Then again, there was TWA 800 just a few weeks after 9/11 which
    exploded and crashed just after takeoff from JFK.

    Point stands but you're thinking of AA 587.

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 9 12:38:47 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.aviation, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism

    "David Pirmann" wrote in message news:qv7ntn$7tg$1@reader2.panix.com...

    In <qv5i5k$lhh$1@reader2.panix.com> danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
    writes:

    Then again, there was TWA 800 just a few weeks after 9/11 which exploded >>and crashed just after takeoff from JFK.
    <
    Point stands but you're thinking of AA 587.

    Interesting what-could-have-been:

    Unabomber Ted Kaczynski was arrested on April 3, 1996.

    TWA flight 800 blew up on July 17, 1996.

    Had Kaczynski not been arrested, as he had been in the prior 19 years, guess where the fingers would have been pointing? He'd tried but failed to take
    down an airliner in 1979: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_444

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Thu Jan 9 19:01:03 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.aviation, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism

    "Yak" wrote in message news:faf2cf77-acff-48d2-948e-26b08895e395@googlegroups.com...

    On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 4:00:10 PM UTC-5, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 1/8/2020 12:19 PM, stupid lying shit-4-braincell Google Groups shitbag loser lied:

    We all know why this plane came down.

    No, "we" don't,

    D'oh!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/video/iran-plane-missile.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/world/middleeast/iran-plane-crash-ukraine.html

    Don't tell me....fake news, right?

    and especially *YOU* don't,

    You were saying?

    Seems like everything gets caught on camera these days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Y1vvragJw

    LUV this wording: "Iran Shoots Down Passenger Jet On Accident!!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31xPlhbDFDE

    Instant napalm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEr3FDsVRJY

    The guilty-as-hell asslifters are already bulldozing the crash site: https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2020/1/9/missile-or-engine-failure-iran-plane-crash-causes-explained

    If it's of any consolation, save for the crew, most of those
    aboard the doomed flight were fellow ethnic camel jocks...

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