New banzuke

Makuuchi
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Hakuho Yokozuna Kakuryu
Takakeisho Ozeki Asanoyama
NU Shodai Ozeki
Mitakeumi Sekiwake NU Takanosho
AU Terunofuji Komusubi AU Takayasu
Kiribayama M.1 Wakatakakage
Onosho M.2 DN Daieisho
Kagayaki M.3 DN Okinoumi
Hokutofuji M.4 Tobizaru
Myogiryu M.5 Kotoshoho
Takarafuji M.6 Tamawashi
Tochinoshin M.7 DN Endo
Aoiyama M.8 Terutsuyoshi
Tokushoryu M.9 Kotoeko
Ryuden M.10 Meisei
Sadanoumi M.11 Enho
Yutakayama M.12 Kaisei
Hoshoryu M.13 Ichinojo
AU Chiyonokuni M.14 AU Kotonowaka
Chiyotairyu M.15 AU Kotoyuki
AU Chiyoshoma M.16 NU Akua
Shimanoumi M.17

Juryo
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Akiseyama J.1 Chiyonoo
Midorifuji J.2 DN Shohozan
DN Ishiura J.3 DN Kotoshogiku
Chiyomaru J.4 Nishikigi
Daiamami J.5 Hidenoumi
Churanoumi J.6 Wakamotoharu
Chiyootori J.7 Azumaryu
DN Kyokutaisei J.8 Ikioi
Tsurugisho J.9 Daishomaru
Hakuyozan J.10 Kyokushuho
Mitoryu J.11 DN Abi
AU Takagenji J.12 AU Jokoryu
AU Ura J.13 Nishikifuji
Fujiazuma J.14 AU Chiyonoumi

NU:Up(New) AU:Up(Again) DN:Down

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Kobayashi Toshiharu <kobayashi512@gmail.com> wrote:

New banzuke

Makuuchi
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Hakuho Yokozuna Kakuryu
Takakeisho Ozeki Asanoyama
NU Shodai Ozeki
Mitakeumi Sekiwake NU Takanosho
AU Terunofuji Komusubi AU Takayasu

Incredibly enough,this is actually the FIRST time
Terunofuji has ranked as a komosubi even though
he became sekiwake and then ozeki over 5 years ago.

Kiribayama M.1 Wakatakakage
Onosho M.2 DN Daieisho
Kagayaki M.3 DN Okinoumi
Hokutofuji M.4 Tobizaru
Myogiryu M.5 Kotoshoho
Takarafuji M.6 Tamawashi
Tochinoshin M.7 DN Endo
Aoiyama M.8 Terutsuyoshi
Tokushoryu M.9 Kotoeko
Ryuden M.10 Meisei
Sadanoumi M.11 Enho
Yutakayama M.12 Kaisei
Hoshoryu M.13 Ichinojo
AU Chiyonokuni M.14 AU Kotonowaka
Chiyotairyu M.15 AU Kotoyuki
AU Chiyoshoma M.16 NU Akua
Shimanoumi M.17

Juryo
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Akiseyama J.1 Chiyonoo
Midorifuji J.2 DN Shohozan
DN Ishiura J.3 DN Kotoshogiku
Chiyomaru J.4 Nishikigi
Daiamami J.5 Hidenoumi
Churanoumi J.6 Wakamotoharu
Chiyootori J.7 Azumaryu
DN Kyokutaisei J.8 Ikioi
Tsurugisho J.9 Daishomaru
Hakuyozan J.10 Kyokushuho
Mitoryu J.11 DN Abi
AU Takagenji J.12 AU Jokoryu
AU Ura J.13 Nishikifuji
Fujiazuma J.14 AU Chiyonoumi

NU:Up(New) AU:Up(Again) DN:Down

Kobayashi Toshiharu

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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New banzuke

Makuuchi
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Hakuho Yokozuna
Terunofuji Ozeki Takakeisho
Shodai Ozeki Asanoyama
Takayasu Sekiwake AU Mitakeumi
NU Wakatakakage Komusubi NU Meisei
Endo M.1 DN Daieisho
DN Takanosho M.2 Ichinojo
Hokutofuji M.3 Tobizaru
Kotoeko M.4 Chiyotairyu
Okinoumi M.5 Hoshoryu
Onosho M.6 Kiribayama
Myogiryu M.7 Chiyoshoma
Takarafuji M.8 Aoiyama
Hidenoumi M.9 Shimanoumi
Tamawashi M.10 Terutsuyoshi
Kaisei M.11 Kotonowaka
Tochinoshin M.12 Kagayaki
Chiyomaru M.13 AU Ura
Daiamami M.14 AU Chiyonoo
Tsurugisho M.15 AU Tokushoryu
Chiyonokuni M.16 Ishiura
NU Ichiyamamoto M.17

Juryo
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Yutakayama J.1 Shohozan
Kyokutaisei J.2 DN Akua
Wakamotoharu J.3 Hakuyozan
Tohakuryu J.4 Takakento
Enho J.5 Kotoshoho
Takagenji J.6 Mitoryu
DN Akiseyama J.7 Azumaryu
Bushozan J.8 Sadanoumi
DN Ryuden J.9 DN Midorifuji
Nishikigi J.10 Kyokushuho
Nishikifuji J.11 Daishomaru
Daishoho J.12 Oho
AU Kaisho J.13 NU Kotokuzan
AU Abi J.14 AU Yago

NU:Up(New) AU:Up(Again) DN:Down

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Wasn't expecting Hakuho to be present! I wonder how long his knee will
last. And, it's interesting to consider what this might mean for Teru, in regards to his Yok run.

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New banzuke

Makuuchi

Higashi banzuke Nishi
Terunofuji Yokozuna
Takakeisho Ozeki Shodai
Mitakeumi Sekiwake AU Takanosho
DN Meisei Komusubi AU Daieisho
Wakatakakage M.1 DN Kiribayama
Ura M.2 DN Ichinojo
Tamawashi M.3 Endo
Okinoumi M.4 Hokutofuji
Onosho M.5 Chiyoshoma
Hoshoryu M.6 Abi
Takayasu M.7 Takarafuji
Hidenoumi M.8 Tobizaru
Chiyonokuni M.9 Shimanoumi
Myogiryu M.10 Akua
Sadanoumi M.11 Terutsuyoshi
Ishiura M.12 Chiyotairyu
Chiyomaru M.13 Yutakayama
Kotonowaka M.14 AU Ichiyamamoto
NU Wakamotoharu M.15 Tochinoshin
Aoiyama M.16 AU Tsurugisho
Kotoeko M.17 Kaisei
NU Oho M.18


Juryo
Higashi banzuke Nishi
DN Kagayaki J.1 Bushozan
Nishikigi J.2 Kotoshoho
Daiamami J.3 DN Shohozan
DN Asanoyama J.4 Kotokuzan
Kaisho J.5 Azumaryu
Asanowaka J.6 Daishomaru
Mitoryu J.7 Daishoho
Tohakuryu J.8 Midorifuji
Nishikifuji J.9 Churanoumi
Tokushoryu J.10 Enho
Hakuyozan J.11 Chiyonoo
NU Shiden J.12 NU Kitanowaka
NU Kotoyusho J.13 AU Chiyoarashi
Hiradoumi J.14 Yago

NU:Up(New) AU:Up(Again) DN:Down

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Well, what's everyone's take on the ranking decisions for sanyaku?

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On 2021-12-27, Toronto Backlawn <joe@arthwere.tzq> wrote:

Well, what's everyone's take on the ranking decisions for sanyaku?

I would like to see a group of Ozeki who are more consistent.
Only one yokozuna at the moment, not impossible in a couple of
years there are none.

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ciao, Bruce

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On Thu, 12 May 2022 12:45:45 +0000, Bruce Scott wrote:

On 2021-12-27, Toronto Backlawn <joe@arthwere.tzq> wrote:

Well, what's everyone's take on the ranking decisions for sanyaku?

I would like to see a group of Ozeki who are more consistent. Only one yokozuna at the moment, not impossible in a couple of years there are
none.

Very true. It really does feel like we have been in a long stretch of inconsistent Ozeki. On the other hand, I wodner if every generation says
the same thing about their ozeki?

Looking at Shodia, for example - while he has just been inexplicably
unreliable this and last basho, if you look solely at his win/loss per
basho, he is a very consistent "mostly 8/7" wrestler (with the occasional hiccup). Oddly enough, he *is* consistent in general, but 1) those 8/7's,
Im sure we agree, aren't numbers we want from an Ozeki, and 2) it is a roller-coaster ride for him to even get his often-8/7's of late.

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Toronto Backlawn <joe@arthwere.tzq> wrote:

On Thu, 12 May 2022 12:45:45 +0000, Bruce Scott wrote:

On 2021-12-27, Toronto Backlawn <joe@arthwere.tzq> wrote:

Well, what's everyone's take on the ranking decisions for sanyaku?

I would like to see a group of Ozeki who are more consistent. Only one
yokozuna at the moment, not impossible in a couple of years there are
none.

Very true. It really does feel like we have been in a long stretch of inconsistent Ozeki. On the other hand, I wodner if every generation says
the same thing about their ozeki?

Looking at Shodia, for example - while he has just been inexplicably unreliable this and last basho, if you look solely at his win/loss per
basho, he is a very consistent "mostly 8/7" wrestler (with the occasional hiccup). Oddly enough, he *is* consistent in general, but 1) those 8/7's,
Im sure we agree, aren't numbers we want from an Ozeki, and 2) it is a roller-coaster ride for him to even get his often-8/7's of late.

Sustaining double digits just long enough to get over the
"great barrier" makes a big difference to a wrestler's career
even if he's doing bare kachi-koshi every other basho after that.

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at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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On 2022-05-18, Toronto Backlawn <joe@arthwere.tzq> wrote:

On Thu, 12 May 2022 12:45:45 +0000, Bruce Scott wrote:

I would like to see a group of Ozeki who are more consistent. Only
one yokozuna at the moment, not impossible in a couple of years
there are none.

Very true. It really does feel like we have been in a long stretch
of inconsistent Ozeki. On the other hand, I wodner if every
generation says the same thing about their ozeki?

I might recall wrong but had the impression in the years around 1977
they were more often at least 10-5

Looking at Shodia, for example - while he has just been inexplicably unreliable this and last basho, if you look solely at his win/loss per
basho, he is a very consistent "mostly 8/7" wrestler (with the occasional hiccup). Oddly enough, he *is* consistent in general, but 1) those 8/7's,
Im sure we agree, aren't numbers we want from an Ozeki, and 2) it is a roller-coaster ride for him to even get his often-8/7's of late.

8-7 as a regular result is not good enough for an Ozeki. At least not
back then.

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New banzuke

Makuuchi
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Terunofuji Yokozuna
Takakeisho Ozeki Mitakeumi
Ozeki Shodai
Wakatakakage Sekiwake AU Daieisho
Hoshoryu Komusubi DN Abi
Kiribayama M.1 Takanosho
Kotonowaka M.2 Ichinojo
Tamawashi M.3 Ura
Wakamotoharu M.4 Takayasu
Endo M.5 Sadanoumi
Aoiyama M.6 Tobizaru
Okinoumi M.7 Hokutofuji
Tochinoshin M.8 Nishikigi
Shimanoumi M.9 Kotoeko
Chiyotairyu M.10 Meisei
Kotoshoho M.11 Midorifuji
Terutsuyoshi M.12 Takarafuji
Ichiyamamoto M.13 Chiyoshoma
Myogiryu M.14 AU Tsurugisho
Onosho M.15 Oho
Yutakayama M.16 AU Daiamami
NU Nishikifuji M.17 AU Chiyomaru

Juryo
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Ryuden J.1 Hidenoumi
DN Azumaryu J.2 Tohakuryu
DN Kagayaki J.3 Daishoho
Asanowaka J.4 Mitoryu
Chiyonokuni J.5 Tokushoryu
Atamifuji J.6 Bushozan
Akua J.7 DN Kotokuzan
Hiradoumi J.8 Enho
Kaisho J.9 Churanoumi
Shimazuumi J.10 DN Ishiura
Kaisei J.11 Tochimaru
Kitanowaka J.12 Yago
NU Oshoma J.13 AU Hokuseiho
NU Chiyosakae J.14 NU Gonoyama

NU:Up(New) AU:Up(Again) DN:Down

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Well! I think July basho is shaping up to be a fun one. There's a lot of
the newer batch of wrestlers collected up in the top third of the banzuke, which should make for a fun, fresh tournament.

Sorry to see that Ichininojo had to lose a slot, but it's understandable
given how well a lot of wrestlers did - there's not a lot of room to spare
up there!

Ryuden has got to be feeling a little impatient to get back to Makuuchi,
but with an 8-7+fusensho, that's to be expected.

It will be fun to see if Atamifuji, now at J6, can keep working his way to makuuchi: I'm curious how he will handle the denser presence of makuuchi veterans who are in the top half of Juryo.

And, we mustn't forget that Asanoyama is now back after his year-long suspension, way down at Sandanme 22. There's going to be a lot of very frightened junior wrestlers in that division come July.

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2022 November banzuke

Makuuchi
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Terunofuji Yokozuna
Takakeisho Ozeki Shodai
Wakatakakage Sekiwake Hoshoryu
Sekiwake DN Mitakeumi
AU Tamawashi Komusubi Kiribayama
NU Tobizaru Komusubi DN Daieisho
Takayasu M.1 Kotonowaka
Meisei M.2 DN Ichinojo
Ura M.3 Midorifuji
Wakamotoharu M.4 Sadanoumi
Hokutofuji M.5 Nishikifuji
Nishikigi M.6 Ryuden
Endo M.7 Myogiryu
Takarafuji M.8 Tochinoshin
Takanosho M.9 DN Abi
Aoiyama M.10 Chiyoshoma
Onosho M.11 Kotoshoho
Kotoeko M.12 Chiyotairyu
Okinoumi M.13 Oho
Ichiyamamoto M.14 AU Azumaryu
AU Kagayaki M.15 NU Atamifuji
Terutsuyoshi M.16 Hiradoumi

Juryo
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Tohakuryu J.1 Chiyomaru
Churanoumi J.2 Bushozan
DN Tsurugisho J.3 DN Mitoryu
Hidenoumi J.4 DN Yutakayama
Akua J.5 Chiyonokuni
Hokuseiho J.6 Kitanowaka
Tochimusashi J.7 Kimbozan
Shimanoumi J.8 Kotokuzan
Daiamami J.9 Daishoho
Chiyosakae J.10 Kaisho
Enho J.11 Takakento
Tokushoryu J.12 Oshoma
Shimazuumi J.13 NU Roga
NU Tsushimanada J.14 Gonoyama

NU:Up(New) AU:Up(Again) DN:Down

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Januarybanzuke

Makuuchi
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Terunofuji Yokozuna
Ozeki Takakeisho
Wakatakakage Sekiwake Hoshoryu
AU Takayasu Sekiwake DN Shodai
Kiribayama Komusubi NU Kotonowaka
AU Meisei Komusubi NU Wakamotoharu
DN Tobizaru M.1 DN Daieisho
DN Mitakeumi M.2 DN Tamawashi
Abi M.3 Midorifuji
Nishikifuji M.4 Sadanoumi
Ryuden M.5 Nishikigi
Hokutofuji M.6 Myogiryu
Ichinojo M.7 Ura
Onosho M.8 Oho
Takanosho M.9 Endo
Aoiyama M.10 Hiradoumi
Chiyoshoma M.11 Tochinoshin
Kagayaki M.12 Okinoumi
Kotoshoho M.13 Kotoeko
Ichiyamamoto M.14 Azumaryu
AU Tsurugisho M.15 AU Mitoryu
Takarafuji M.16 AU Chiyomaru

Juryo
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Akua J.1 Bushozan
Hokuseiho J.2 Daiamami
DN Atamifuji J.3 Oshoma
Tohakuryu J.4 Enho
Kimbozan J.5 Kotokuzan
Churanoumi J.6 Daishoho
Chiyonokuni J.7 Tochimusashi
Shimanoumi J.8 Kitanowaka
Roga J.9 Hidenoumi
Gonoyama J.10 DN Terutsuyoshi
Chiyosakae J.11 Shimazuumi
Takakento J.12 AU Asanoyama
NU Shonannoumi J.13 Kaisho
Tsushimanada J.14 AU Hakuyozan

NU :Up(New) AU:Up(Again) DN :Down

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Kobayashi Toshiharu <kobayashi.lance@gmail.com> wrote:

Januarybanzuke

Makuuchi
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Terunofuji Yokozuna
Ozeki Takakeisho
Wakatakakage Sekiwake Hoshoryu
AU Takayasu Sekiwake DN Shodai

Can Shodai make it back up or has he passed his prime?

Will Hoshoryu manage to follow any further in his uncle's
footsteps?(He has never won more than 11 in a basho and
would have to to be considered for ozeki).

Kiribayama Komusubi NU Kotonowaka

This Kotonowake is now close to his father's peak,
but can he ever reach his grandfather's?

AU Meisei Komusubi NU Wakamotoharu
DN Tobizaru M.1 DN Daieisho
DN Mitakeumi M.2 DN Tamawashi
Abi M.3 Midorifuji
Nishikifuji M.4 Sadanoumi
Ryuden M.5 Nishikigi
Hokutofuji M.6 Myogiryu
Ichinojo M.7 Ura
Onosho M.8 Oho

A new career high for Taiho's grandson...

Takanosho M.9 Endo
Aoiyama M.10 Hiradoumi
Chiyoshoma M.11 Tochinoshin
Kagayaki M.12 Okinoumi
Kotoshoho M.13 Kotoeko
Ichiyamamoto M.14 Azumaryu
AU Tsurugisho M.15 AU Mitoryu
Takarafuji M.16 AU Chiyomaru

Juryo
Higashi banzuke Nishi
Akua J.1 Bushozan
Hokuseiho J.2 Daiamami

...and for Hakuho's star protege.

DN Atamifuji J.3 Oshoma
Tohakuryu J.4 Enho
Kimbozan J.5 Kotokuzan
Churanoumi J.6 Daishoho
Chiyonokuni J.7 Tochimusashi
Shimanoumi J.8 Kitanowaka
Roga J.9 Hidenoumi
Gonoyama J.10 DN Terutsuyoshi
Chiyosakae J.11 Shimazuumi
Takakento J.12 AU Asanoyama
NU Shonannoumi J.13 Kaisho
Tsushimanada J.14 AU Hakuyozan

NU :Up(New) AU:Up(Again) DN :Down

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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