• The Tate-Gyoji Interregnum

    From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 16 17:22:42 2020
    There has actually not been a Kimura Shonosuke for over five years!

    Has that ever happened before in say the last 150 years?

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    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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  • From Bruce Scott@21:1/5 to Bruce Scott on Thu Sep 17 08:08:01 2020
    On 2020-09-17, Bruce Scott <bds@ipp.mpg.de> wrote:
    On 2020-09-16, Louis Epstein <le@top.put.com> wrote:
    There has actually not been a Kimura Shonosuke for over five years!

    Has that ever happened before in say the last 150 years?

    The Wikipedia page on gyoji says the 37th Kimura Shonosuke retired in
    3/2015, and the senior tate gyoji had to retire after a controversy over harassment in 2019. The Somu Kyokai page seems not to reflect this
    update. Is there a tate gyoji at all now?

    Sorry... cancel that -- it was the predecessor:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyoji

    "In January 2018, the 40th Shikimori Inosuke (Itsuo Nouchi) was
    suspended for three tournaments for sexually harassing a junior
    referee.[8] The Japan Sumo Association accepted his resignation in May
    2018 when the suspension concluded."

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  • From Bruce Scott@21:1/5 to Louis Epstein on Thu Sep 17 07:51:25 2020
    On 2020-09-16, Louis Epstein <le@top.put.com> wrote:
    There has actually not been a Kimura Shonosuke for over five years!

    Has that ever happened before in say the last 150 years?

    The Wikipedia page on gyoji says the 37th Kimura Shonosuke retired in
    3/2015, and the senior tate gyoji had to retire after a controversy over harassment in 2019. The Somu Kyokai page seems not to reflect this
    update. Is there a tate gyoji at all now?

    --
    ciao, Bruce

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  • From Louis Epstein@21:1/5 to Bruce Scott on Sat Sep 19 07:17:43 2020
    Bruce Scott <bds@macbook-air-4.local> wrote:
    On 2020-09-17, Bruce Scott <bds@ipp.mpg.de> wrote:
    On 2020-09-16, Louis Epstein <le@top.put.com> wrote:
    There has actually not been a Kimura Shonosuke for over five years!

    Has that ever happened before in say the last 150 years?

    The Wikipedia page on gyoji says the 37th Kimura Shonosuke retired in
    3/2015, and the senior tate gyoji had to retire after a controversy over
    harassment in 2019. The Somu Kyokai page seems not to reflect this
    update. Is there a tate gyoji at all now?

    Sorry... cancel that -- it was the predecessor:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyoji

    "In January 2018, the 40th Shikimori Inosuke (Itsuo Nouchi) was
    suspended for three tournaments for sexually harassing a junior
    referee.[8] The Japan Sumo Association accepted his resignation in May
    2018 when the suspension concluded."



    There is a Shikimori Inosuke...but no Kimura Shonosuke,
    the Shikimori Inosuke would normally be promoted to that
    position at some point but I gather the previous one
    (who I remember seeing lead a dohyo-iri parade when he
    was Shikimori Kindayu) blew it and the current one hasn't
    been in office long enough?

    I'm not sure how many "inherited" gyoji-names there are,
    I suspect all the sanyaku-gyoji names are handed down
    rather than the ones gyoji pick to start.

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