• Iskandar Taib's bizarre claims on Net Serves versus Edge Serves

    From Mary Beth@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 3 12:44:56 2021
    keme wrote on 20 Jul 2021, 19:36 : In tennis, hitting the edge of a
    line will have little or no impact on bounce, and does not make any telltale/disturbing sound.
    Original poster (OP) Ralph J replied (in deleted posting) :- Yeah So ?
    And that bothers you ??

    keme wrote: Hitting the edge of the net will usually change the
    trajectory significantly, and be clearly audible.

    OP Replied (in deleted posting) :-Again , the changed trajectory and
    or sound will bother you , if the serve is otherwise good ? REALLY

    keme wrote: To me, it does make perfect sense in tennis. It also
    "feels right" in table tennis, but probably more due to habit than the difference Iskandar submits. I reckon he is right, though.

    OP Replied (in deleted posting) :-21 point was a habit. Volley rule
    was a habit. This is a very easy habit to adjust to.
    Even if what you say is all true, the benefits of not having true
    confusion about whether it was really a let or your opponent not
    cheating blatantly (like at your advantage at deuce), far outweigh the annoyance of some noise or changed trajectory. Initially it may be a
    little harder to adjust but you can easily adjust.

    And for Iskandar to claim (in now deleted reply to OP) that one can
    train themselves to produce net serves but not edge serves is just
    plain crazy. And even more crazy is the claim that a player can be so
    confident that they can pull this off at critical junctures of a match
    such as when at deuce. Truly bizarre claim.

    Note :- Keme was actually responding to Iskandar Taib's wild claim as
    above . but suddenly Iskandar's previous posting trashing the OP, has
    been mysteriously deleted & now Iskandar wants to make a post somewhat
    agreeing with Ops rule change suggestion

    BTW the OP ( in that thread deleted by HaggisV ) just asked in OP if
    anyone wondered why edge serves (otherwise good) are legal but net
    serves (otherwise legal) are not . Iskandar made a bizarre post
    claiming that a player can actually train themselves to serve net
    serves but not edge serves. Below is that bizarre posting by Iskandar
    Taib in response to Original Post by Ralph J that appeared on 11 Jul
    2021, 03:15

    On 19 Jul 2021, 03:36 , Iskandar Taib wrote :- No idea why it got
    started but I'd observe that, with practice, you could produce net
    serves at will. And they'd result in a point for you most of the time, especially if you use it as a surprise. Whereas edge serves would be
    very, very difficult to produce at will.





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  • From Spin Block James@21:1/5 to Mary Beth on Thu Aug 5 15:00:16 2021
    Ulis wrote :- "if you are good enough it is fair but if you do it
    enough against good players they will return it. "

    Do you seriously think any players can seriously hit the net in
    table-tennis ? However, what you say is very true > If any player can
    do it, there will also be players at any level who can also return it.
    But given the source of the wild claim (Iskandar Taib) that claim is a
    joke anyway.We are all used to hearing such nonsense from Iskandar
    Taib, but the sad part is that HaggisV deleted the reply to Iskandar
    by someone else because it obviously exposes Iskandar for who he is.
    It is puzzling as to why HaggisV is protecting the likes of Iskandar
    or posters like Rob_M, who is hellbent on harassing new posters
    calling them trolls or calling their posts just because he (Rob_M)
    does not agree with them. It is even more funnier if you consider the
    fact that the likes of Rob_M or Iskandar are acting as if they are
    "saving" some obscure internet forum and even more bizarre is the
    belief that that their behavior actually protects table-tennis from
    all its enemies. LOL


    On Tue, 03 Aug 2021 12:44:56 -0500, Mary Beth wrote:

    keme wrote on 20 Jul 2021, 19:36 : In tennis, hitting the edge of a
    line will have little or no impact on bounce, and does not make any >telltale/disturbing sound.
    Original poster (OP) Ralph J replied (in deleted posting) :- Yeah So ?
    And that bothers you ??

    keme wrote: Hitting the edge of the net will usually change the
    trajectory significantly, and be clearly audible.

    OP Replied (in deleted posting) :-Again , the changed trajectory and
    or sound will bother you , if the serve is otherwise good ? REALLY

    keme wrote: To me, it does make perfect sense in tennis. It also
    "feels right" in table tennis, but probably more due to habit than the >difference Iskandar submits. I reckon he is right, though.

    OP Replied (in deleted posting) :-21 point was a habit. Volley rule
    was a habit. This is a very easy habit to adjust to.
    Even if what you say is all true, the benefits of not having true
    confusion about whether it was really a let or your opponent not
    cheating blatantly (like at your advantage at deuce), far outweigh the >annoyance of some noise or changed trajectory. Initially it may be a
    little harder to adjust but you can easily adjust.

    And for Iskandar to claim (in now deleted reply to OP) that one can
    train themselves to produce net serves but not edge serves is just
    plain crazy. And even more crazy is the claim that a player can be so >confident that they can pull this off at critical junctures of a match
    such as when at deuce. Truly bizarre claim.

    Note :- Keme was actually responding to Iskandar Taib's wild claim as
    above . but suddenly Iskandar's previous posting trashing the OP, has
    been mysteriously deleted & now Iskandar wants to make a post somewhat >agreeing with Ops rule change suggestion

    BTW the OP ( in that thread deleted by HaggisV ) just asked in OP if
    anyone wondered why edge serves (otherwise good) are legal but net
    serves (otherwise legal) are not . Iskandar made a bizarre post
    claiming that a player can actually train themselves to serve net
    serves but not edge serves. Below is that bizarre posting by Iskandar
    Taib in response to Original Post by Ralph J that appeared on 11 Jul
    2021, 03:15

    On 19 Jul 2021, 03:36 , Iskandar Taib wrote :- No idea why it got
    started but I'd observe that, with practice, you could produce net
    serves at will. And they'd result in a point for you most of the time, >especially if you use it as a surprise. Whereas edge serves would be
    very, very difficult to produce at will.

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